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A few questions about Klingon ships

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Captain Pierce:
I think K'vort may have been used again on DS9; not sure, though.  If so, it's just another oddity to explain away, as most of the BoP's on DS9 (at least IIRC) were closer to the original 109-meter size... 

The thing is, when there wasn't money available to build a new Klingon ship (at least until Berman and Michael Piller decided to go more frequently down the Klingon road starting in S3, and the money became available to build the Vor'cha in I think S4), the SFX team's options were limited.  They could either keep using stock footage of the K't'inga from TMP (which they did at least twice, "Heart of Glory" and the one with the "sleeper" ship, or they could try and work with the BoP model for variety.  The problem then becomes one of size.  The model of the Enterprise-D was probably about the same size as that of the Enterprise/Enterprise-A (in fact, the Constellation class only exists because at the last minute the decision was made not to film the movie model for "The Battle," I assume because its size was so similar to the Ent-D.  If you look really closely, you can see that Geordi originally says "Constitituion-class ship"; "Constellation" was chosen as the class name not so much because of the USS Constitution from TOS as because it's very similar to "Consititution" ;) ), so all of a sudden a ship that was a third of the length of the Enterprise looks half as long as the Ent-D.  I have no idea what was going on in "The Defector" with the even larger "D'Tai" BoP (as DITL calls them); perhaps the model team simply decided that the BoP's had to look bigger to appear threatening to the monstrous D'Deridex.  At any rate, I think the SFX guys did what they had to do given the time, money, and other resources they had; and, you have to admit, when they did finally get the chance to build a new Klingon model, the Vor'cha was well worth the wait...  :D

ModelsPlease:

--- Quote from: Lord de Seis on July 24, 2004, 08:29:57 am ---K22 is a scout, D11, D12, D13 were versions of the light Cruiser, B'rel is a Battlecruiser, K'Vort is a Battleship

But I like the idea of Daystrom institute: www.ditl.org :) Look there and learn (I mean: K'Pak B'rel K'vort D12/D13 and D'Tai in other ships section) :D

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LOL Looking there was one of ther reasons I started asking these questions in the first place  :P
These are the sites I was looking at when I started to ponder the BOP in all her variety  ::)
Cleeve's Staryards
http://www.staryards.com/Downloads/Ships/Klingon/3_TNG/Kling_TNG.htm
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org/
Starship Schematic Database
http://www.shipschematics.net/

KtHyla:
Another note: The K-22, L-42, Stronger Bird/Great Bird designations are from the old FASA PnP game, not canon (unfortunately). Paramoont nixed that pretty early in TNG's run...

USS Mariner:
^Which is both a good thing and a bad thing, as the FASA designations are kind of screw for certain classes (L-24 Komo Val DN anyone?) Personally, I tend to use a mix of the SFB and FASA designation systems to dome up with this:

BX - Battleship
CX - Command Cruiser/Battlecruiser
DX - Heavy and Medium Cruisers
LX - Light Cruisers
FX - Destroyers
EX - "Bird's of Prey" - Escort
GX - Gunboats/Police Ships
TX - Tenders/Tugs/Freighters

*This one could be smudged into cannon, because Worf could've easily said "E12" in GEN and his tounge got in the way. :P

But eh, to each his own. I personally doubt TPTB will use anything other than D to identify Klink Vessels, because the writers are lazy, and sometimes the Advisors are ignored (or out of the loop, as  was the case in that one VOY ep with the K'T'Inga.*

*Mike Sussman had originally intended that ship to be Greg Jein's D7 from DS9, but it turned out that a CGI version wasn't made. Instead, they used the K'T'Inga model, and Mike was never informed till after the ep was filmed. Had he known, then he would've simply changed the "D7" to "K'T'Inga" in the script.

Though maybe it was a D7X... ;)

Sapharite:
In my MOD I decided to put those BOPs into three groups. First one is K22, D11(earlier version - offspring of K22), D12, D13. Second one is B'rel and K'vort variants - all cruisers. Third group is D'tai as a battleship - lost era battleship - there was a lack of battleship in 2333-2355 so I added D'tai. The later battleship designation is being occupied by Voddieh and Negh'var. :D

Just simple imagination :D My imagination  :dance:
 ;)
 :D

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