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Magnum357:
I understand that the guys that made 4.0 for OP really worked hard to get it a lot like SFB, but I must complain that these X2 ships are a bit overpowerful in 4.0.  I never got the X ships module for SFB, but are they exactly like this in SFB?  And the Hydrans have that G2 Phaser that is very powerful, but I thought G2 Phasers were basically PH2's that can fire 4 times?  It just seems that X2 ships in 4.0 have so many weapons that its very easy to have them too powerful. 

Any opinions on this?  I'm curious what other people think.

Hexx:
No
The X2 ships are a complete Taldren creation
The SFB X ships can't be done in SFC as most of the SFB rules that
effect them can't be done in the D2

Most of the D2 players don't use the X2 ships on servers, there's been
 "standardized" SFB X ships in use for D2 servers, essentially being
slightly upgunned CC's with a 10-20% increase in power.
They're still more powerful than any CC, most have an advantage (if slight)
in facing BCH's.
But none have the ott firepower of the X2's

Magnum357:
I see.  So some dynaverses don't even use X1 or X2 ships right?  The X1 ships in 4.0 I can understand, they should be more powerful then a CC of its race (as it would be a new Generation of Crusier) but these X2 ships make X1 ships seem like pushovers.  I think the 4.0 X2 ships need to be toned down some.  If X1 ships are mostly "upgunnded" and a little more power then Standard Crusiers, isn't it reasonable to make X2 ships an upgrade of the same perportion?  They just seem way too powerful to be an "upgunned" X1 ship.

Hexx:
I think (but dont know for sure) that the X2 boats are used in GSA
I haven't seen them on a server in years.

Maybe half of the server campaigns include "our" Xships
-I'm not actually sure what 4.0's first gen Xships are- I think they have Xweapons?

None of the D2 Xships we regularly use have any Xweapons.
They're pretty much ported right from SFB SSD's, using normal Phaser 1's,
etc.

The X2 ships were just considered pointless as teh whole idea became run up
and alpha the other guy.

Magnum357:
I play on GSA a lot and I can tell you X2 ships are used quite a bit.  They are prefered over BB's sometimes.  I don't have a problem with X1 boats because they seem pretty balanced, they are based on SFB specs, and a DN or other equivelent ships can defeat them. 

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