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Dell Customer Support
« on: April 17, 2008, 01:19:13 pm »
We always see posts about poor customer support, so here's my recent experience. 

When I started up my business, I needed a business laptop.  Instead of buying a good desktop and a matching laptop for when I'm on the road, I went the direction of buying one really good laptop.  Without a lot of cash on hand, I needed someplace that I could buy a laptop on credit.  After some research and finding that Dell gave me the highest spending limit, I picked the following:

Dell Inspiron 1720 laptop (that's a 17" screen - heavy but worth it).

Processor: Intel Core Duo T7500 @ 2.20 ghz
RAM:  4 GB (3.5 available due to operating system)
Video:  Nvidia GeForce 8600GMT (256 mb ram)
Hard Drive:  Samsung HM320 JI (320 gb)
Dvd+RW drive

The machine has always run a little hot, especially when I am running my mapping program (or Lord of the RIngs Online - with direct X 10).  Last Thursday I made a big boo-boo.  I spilled a nearly-full 1 liter bottle of Diet Dr. Pepper all over the machine.  Hours of cleaning the keyboard and alas, it still isn't running right.  So, at 11:00 p.m. I call Dell Technical support.  When we purchased this machine, we purchased the FULL warranty and support packages as well.  I need this machine for my business after all.  Yes I do have my desktop which can handle things for a little while, but this is my primary machine (the laptop). 

At first I had to wait fifteen minutes for the online chat support agent to show up.  Sure enough, it's some guy in India, but at least he's nice and doesn't waste my time.  He gives me two options under my support plan.  He can send out a new keyboard and I can install it myself, or he can send a box and I can ship it back to a support center to replace the keyboard.  The second option takes 5-8 business days. 

I choose to replace it myself.  I've done it before, so no big deal.  AS he's about to sign off, he asks if there's any other problems.  That's where I  made my goof. I mentioned "It hasn't overheated since I bought a support base with a cooling fan."  That led to a bunch of quesitons and him telling me he's sending a box because it has to be repaired at a service center.  Naturally I lost my temper and got feisty.  Nevertheless, the box was shipped and I switched programs over to my desktop while backing up the data on the laptop (while working around the occasional problems. 

The box didn't arrive until Tuesday morning and I was ready to bitch up a storm. Nevertheless the DHL shipping picked it up that afternoon and I prepared myself for a 5-8 day wait.  This morning before 10:30 there was a knock at the door and it was DHL with a big box.  Inside was my laptop and a form with the repairs that they performed.  Turns out they replaced the mother board because it was damaged from overheating (NICE!!!!).  They also repaired the keyboard and the machine worsk a hell of a lot better now. 

Here's the deal though.  The service center got the box on Wednesday.  They fixed it and sent it back out the same day to get it back to me today.  Now, I didn't contact Dell until late Thursday night, in fact it was Friday morning (just after midnight) when the final decision on the  servicing was made.  So, here's my rating for Dell's customer support:

Online Chat/Support feature:  D+
Wait time for shipping laptop to them:  C
Repair and return time:  A+

I really like how fast they got it back to me.  I'm back up and working already.  Now if they could just tidy up the front end of the process it'd be wonderful. 
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2008, 02:49:49 pm »
Dell Customer service sucks.  That is the reason I will never buy another dell product.  When I had an Inspiron, I sometimes had to wait on the phone for four hours to get simple repairs.  Another thing I hate about them is that their representatives are very unresponsive, and seem unable to comply with simple requests.  Here is a call from a guy who has had the full dell treatment.  Admittedly its a stupid problem, but after getting bounced around and put on hold for hours he's doing what I dreamed about doing. 
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/10/dell-support-call.mp3
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2008, 03:01:17 pm »
I think you should be gratefull that they are replacing anything. Afterall, most support plans don't include users spilling diet coke all over the equipment =)

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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2008, 03:30:24 pm »
Dell support?

I got your Dell support right here!

Enjoy the following post, but only after eating.

http://consumerist.com/374402/photo-dell-breaks-your-laptop-sends-replacement-full-of-pubes

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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2008, 04:01:34 pm »
Actually, we bought the Comprehensive plan that specifically includes spilling liquids all over your laptop.  About the only thing it doesn't include is obvious inflicted damage (like hammer marks - that's the wording in the plan itself).

As for pubes, well if he was cute that wouldn't be so bad...
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2008, 04:55:10 pm »
Let's hope the person those pubes came from was clean.
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2008, 05:05:02 pm »
Well Judge, from what you describe it sounds like Dell customer support has actually improved a great deal from when I had a Dell computer under warranty.  I'll never buy another Dell again, and from what I am still hearing I've made the right decision.

My friend and I were pricing out laptops yesterday.  It came down to Dell and Gateway for him.  For about $50USD more he had the option from Gateway of having someone come to his home for repairs.  It was a no brainier for him, the only thing I questioned was that Gateway was bought out by Acer a while back.  Despite the buyout Gateway still makes good laptops.

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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2008, 05:54:14 pm »
Dell support?

I got your Dell support right here!

Enjoy the following post, but only after eating.

http://consumerist.com/374402/photo-dell-breaks-your-laptop-sends-replacement-full-of-pubes




Hey, who doesn't partake in a little man-scaping while they're waiting for their movies on bittorrent to download. It's the perfect time to do a little trimming!

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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2008, 05:58:11 pm »
Dell support?

I got your Dell support right here!

Enjoy the following post, but only after eating.

http://consumerist.com/374402/photo-dell-breaks-your-laptop-sends-replacement-full-of-pubes




Hey, who doesn't partake in a little man-scaping while they're waiting for their movies on bittorrent to download. It's the perfect time to do a little trimming!


Not me.  I'm au natural down there.

Besides, I don't want to take the chance that I'm gonna cut off the one thing I don't need cut off, and I don't exactly have much to lose.
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2008, 10:31:47 pm »
Actually, the person you spoke to and gave the D was probably the Dell employee.  Most likely your PC went to a 3rd party repair facility that does warranty work for Dell, HP, etc.  Those are here in the states and I had an experience very similar to yours.  Had to replace the 17" LCD on my HP Pavillion DV8000 (it just crapped out).  Work was fine.. phone sucked.
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2008, 11:11:45 pm »
Look at it this way.  Dell customer service shall never suck as bad as Fry's Electronics.  Oh, I could share with you the horror story of the whole situation, but I'll give you the condensed version.

Take laptop to store cause it's under extended warranty.  Store says it'll take a week to fix.  Store lies and gives us the run around.  Store employee calls us liars in front of store manager.  Store manager gives us the run around.  Store continues to give us the run around.  We call the state consumer affairs department.  Store begins to start doing something, but gives run around and shaft to the state.  Store suddenly is able to get our laptop fixed.

After 11 weeks, yes, 11 weeks, we get the laptop back with a bunch of "I'm So Sorry" comments about the service we had, state still got the shaft.  Store now made one very powerful enemy with the state consumer affairs department, and agent with the consumer affairs department is now eagerly waiting just one more complaint to initiate a statewide investigation on the business practices of the store and all its locations.

And this was the lady that made Jiffy Lube bend over a barrel and take it up the rear end.

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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2008, 11:38:30 pm »
Look at it this way.  Dell customer service shall never suck as bad as Fry's Electronics.  Oh, I could share with you the horror story of the whole situation, but I'll give you the condensed version.

Take laptop to store cause it's under extended warranty.  Store says it'll take a week to fix.  Store lies and gives us the run around.  Store employee calls us liars in front of store manager.  Store manager gives us the run around.  Store continues to give us the run around.  We call the state consumer affairs department.  Store begins to start doing something, but gives run around and shaft to the state.  Store suddenly is able to get our laptop fixed.

After 11 weeks, yes, 11 weeks, we get the laptop back with a bunch of "I'm So Sorry" comments about the service we had, state still got the shaft.  Store now made one very powerful enemy with the state consumer affairs department, and agent with the consumer affairs department is now eagerly waiting just one more complaint to initiate a statewide investigation on the business practices of the store and all its locations.

And this was the lady that made Jiffy Lube bend over a barrel and take it up the rear end.




Try waiting on hold for over 4 hours to get a stinking power adapter replaced.  Try giving them specific address instructions only to have the idiot customer service representative completely ignore it.  Try being forced to go through an idiotic checklist when you know the problem is the power adapter and not the system IT HAS A GREEN LED THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO ON WHEN ITS PLUGGED IN WHETHER THERE IS A COMPUTER ATTACHED TO IT OR NOT.  That is what it means to own a Dell.

I think Dell customer care was trained by these guys
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2008, 12:22:37 am »
I've never dealt with dell customer support, but i have dealt with others.  I found in my limited expierence in calling that if you explain the troubleshooting process you went through they normaly shut up cause the realize you probably know more than them ;).
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2008, 12:28:02 am »
I've never dealt with dell customer support, but i have dealt with others.  I found in my limited expierence in calling that if you explain the troubleshooting process you went through they normaly shut up cause the realize you probably know more than them ;).

Dell doesn't.  They have a checklist that they're required to go through whether the list fits the problem or not.

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2008, 07:11:31 am »
Look at it this way.  Dell customer service shall never suck as bad as Fry's Electronics.  Oh, I could share with you the horror story of the whole situation, but I'll give you the condensed version.

Take laptop to store cause it's under extended warranty.  Store says it'll take a week to fix.  Store lies and gives us the run around.  Store employee calls us liars in front of store manager.  Store manager gives us the run around.  Store continues to give us the run around.  We call the state consumer affairs department.  Store begins to start doing something, but gives run around and shaft to the state.  Store suddenly is able to get our laptop fixed.

After 11 weeks, yes, 11 weeks, we get the laptop back with a bunch of "I'm So Sorry" comments about the service we had, state still got the shaft.  Store now made one very powerful enemy with the state consumer affairs department, and agent with the consumer affairs department is now eagerly waiting just one more complaint to initiate a statewide investigation on the business practices of the store and all its locations.

And this was the lady that made Jiffy Lube bend over a barrel and take it up the rear end.




Try waiting on hold for over 4 hours to get a stinking power adapter replaced.  Try giving them specific address instructions only to have the idiot customer service representative completely ignore it.  Try being forced to go through an idiotic checklist when you know the problem is the power adapter and not the system IT HAS A GREEN LED THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO ON WHEN ITS PLUGGED IN WHETHER THERE IS A COMPUTER ATTACHED TO IT OR NOT.  That is what it means to own a Dell.

I think Dell customer care was trained by these guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ-lJpL2oVg


That's somewhat the situation I had, only thing was it was the DVD burner that went bad.  I had written down on paper, and also verbally explained to the person at the service counter, who could barely speak English mind you, all the troubleshooting I had done, the diagnostics I had ran, and that even the HP diagnostic tools said that the drive was not operating properly.  She said she understood, would put the order in for a new part the next day, and that the laptop would be fixed within a week.

Following week, when we try to call about the repairs, no one answered for over half an hour.  So we drove down there.  Wanna know what we found out?  The part was never ordered.  The person we spoke with said they would put the order in immediately, and that next week for sure it would be fixed.  Pissed off, we left.  Oh, and that person did speak English.

Next week, we come in, we ask about the laptop.  Guess what, the part had only been ordered that day.  And, oddly enough, we're speaking with the same lady that we spoke with when we checked in the laptop for repairs.  You know what she said?  That it doesn't matter what tests we ran or what diagnostics we did, they have to submit the computer for a 3-5 day diagnostic cause they assume we didn't do the job right.  When we asked, my mother and I, why then she had told us why it would take a week to fix the laptop and have it ready, she said that they never know how long it'll take, that they tell all customers it'll take a week, and that in the end, it doesn't really matter anyway.  Not even a minute later, we're talking with the store manager, and when we, my mother and I, repeat, at the same time, what just happened with the service desk employee, not only did the employee call us liars saying she never said that to us, the store manager said that there was nothing she could do and that we must have misunderstood, even when we point out that the likelihood of 2 people hearing the same conversation at the same time and interpreting it the same way and repeating the conversation, word for word, at the same time, and still misunderstanding everything, is very low, the manager still insisted that we misunderstood, there was nothing she could do, and that the part would take 2-3 weeks to arrive, and that they would call us when it was ready.

So, we left, pissed off, and with a line of customers waiting to see a service repair agent that were now wondering if it was such a good idea to turn their machines into the store for service and repair.  I even saw a couple of them leave during this whole ordeal.  We called the corporate headquarters in San Jose, asking to file a complaint.  The rep said that a complaint file was now open, and that they would get in touch with the general store manager for that location, and that person would give us a call.  Never got a call.

My mom and I get real sick for a couple weeks, and since this was around Christmas and New Years, things went haywire around my household trying to get things in order, so we didn't didn't check up on the laptop until about the 7th week after we turned it in.  And guess what.  Half hour on the phone, no answer.  Once we managed to get into their message service, to find out it was full and to call back again.  We tried calling for several days. We called the same lady with their corporate office, just to find out that since she had heard nothing from us or the store, that the case has been considered successfully resolved, and closed, but that she would reopen it, which apparently she never did.

So, we went back to the store, and you know what they said?  They hadn't received the part.  They said they didn't know anything, and that the only person that would know what was going on was the technician that placed the order for the part, cause their database systems didn't have any other info other than part ordered on a certain date and part had yet to arrive.  And the technician was the same woman that checked in our laptop and 2 weeks later called us liars in front of the store.  This was approximately half way through the 8th week, going into the 9th.

We finally submit a complaint with the California Dept. of Consumer Affairs, and damn they're prompt.  We submitted the claim, along with a timeline of events which occured, with dates.  We did this during the middle of the night, and the first thing in the morning, we get a call from one of their agents asking for a copy of the receipt and the service slip, and to verify all the information we sent, so she could start an investigation, and that very same day, she did.  She got in touch with their legal department.  Their legal department gave her the run around for a few days, then finally called her up.

They tell her that it's standard policy to keep computers and other equipment for repairs for 8-10 weeks.  Then, they call her back and tell her that the manufacturer was no longer making the part needed to repair our laptop, and all efforts to locate an available part had failed.  So, the agent with the consumer affairs state calls the manufacturer, and you know what she found out?  The part in question was still being made, but that in the beginning of December they had run out of inventory, but the part was available again around the second week of January.  This was now the beginning of February.  So, she calls back to the legal department of the store, but doesn't get much of an answer.  All the while she's kept us apprised of the situation, and exactly what she's being told.

However, at the end of the 10th week, we start getting a bunch of calls from the store, from the new general store manager, saying how sorry he was that we had to go through this whole situation, and that the supervisors and managers involved had either been terminated or replaced, and that he had personally contacted the manufacturer and placed an order for the part personally, and had a rush placed on it.  He also said that he had a copy of the entire complaint file from consumer affairs that the corporate office had sent him, and that he would inform consumer affairs of the progress being made.  He didn't call them, but we did.  The agent with consumer affairs was so pissed off.  The legal department was no longer returning her calls, the corporate office was no longer returning her calls, the store wasn't returning her calls.  The store was returning every single one of our calls.

So, come to the end of the 11th week, we get a call from the general store manager himself, again he said he was sorry that the whole mess happened, apologizes, and informs us that our laptop is fixed, working perfectly, and ready for pickup at anytime.  We pick it up, sign for it, and get a xerox copy of the actual paperwork that I had filled out, with my own handwriting detailing what troubleshooting I had done before I brought the laptop in.  The agent with consumer affairs finally did get a call from Fry's corporate offices saying that they were sorry for the delay in returning her calls, but some of the employees at the corporate office and most of the employees at the store were undergoing retraining due to our situation.  Which was BS.  But, since we had gotten our laptop back, and we had kept in touch with the agent practically every other day throughout the situation, telling her what was going on, and also that our laptop was repaired, she said that she was gonna close the case and labeled it resolved.  She did however try to get us some compensation from the corporate offices, but they didn't budge on it.

However, she did tell us that now she's just waiting for one more complaint about them to launch a massive, statewide investigation into their businesses practices.  Oh, we weren't the first case she handled against Fry's by the way.

That's pretty much about it.
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2008, 02:22:38 pm »
I've never dealt with dell customer support, but i have dealt with others.  I found in my limited expierence in calling that if you explain the troubleshooting process you went through they normaly shut up cause the realize you probably know more than them ;).

Dell doesn't.  They have a checklist that they're required to go through whether the list fits the problem or not.

Yep.  That has been my experience as well.

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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2008, 06:23:08 pm »
I've never dealt with dell customer support, but i have dealt with others.  I found in my limited expierence in calling that if you explain the troubleshooting process you went through they normaly shut up cause the realize you probably know more than them ;).

Dell doesn't.  They have a checklist that they're required to go through whether the list fits the problem or not.

Yep.  That has been my experience as well.


As does any properly run help desk.  You guys forget what advanced users you probably are.  Imagine helping your grandmother with her computer.. over the phone.
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2008, 06:43:13 pm »
I've never dealt with dell customer support, but i have dealt with others.  I found in my limited expierence in calling that if you explain the troubleshooting process you went through they normaly shut up cause the realize you probably know more than them ;).

Dell doesn't.  They have a checklist that they're required to go through whether the list fits the problem or not.

Yep.  That has been my experience as well.


As does any properly run help desk.  You guys forget what advanced users you probably are.  Imagine helping your grandmother with her computer.. over the phone.

I don't have a grandmother.  The only one I had when I was born died 8 months later.
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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2008, 06:43:47 pm »
I've never dealt with dell customer support, but i have dealt with others.  I found in my limited expierence in calling that if you explain the troubleshooting process you went through they normaly shut up cause the realize you probably know more than them ;).

Dell doesn't.  They have a checklist that they're required to go through whether the list fits the problem or not.

Yep.  That has been my experience as well.


As does any properly run help desk.  You guys forget what advanced users you probably are.  Imagine helping your grandmother with her computer.. over the phone.

My grandmother had a degree in electrical engineering.

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Re: Dell Customer Support
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2008, 07:15:46 pm »
I've never dealt with dell customer support, but i have dealt with others.  I found in my limited expierence in calling that if you explain the troubleshooting process you went through they normaly shut up cause the realize you probably know more than them ;).

Dell doesn't.  They have a checklist that they're required to go through whether the list fits the problem or not.

Yep.  That has been my experience as well.


As does any properly run help desk.  You guys forget what advanced users you probably are.  Imagine helping your grandmother with her computer.. over the phone.

My grandmother had a degree in electrical engineering.

Oh dear Lord, the worst user ever is an EE.  They get plenty of classes on how a computer works on the inside so they think they are experts, but they get almost no classes on how to actually use one.   ;D
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