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Taldrenites => Starfleet Command Models => Topic started by: Mackie on August 24, 2003, 09:36:36 pm
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just thought this would be important let you guys know....
here arethose who dont mind if you kitbash their products, just remember to credit, ok?
-P81
-Knox1711
-Lord Schtupp
-TheStresspuppy
-Moonraker
-Smiley
-Azel/Atolm
-Sandman3d (unless otherwise noted, in for example, readme file)
-Captain Korah
-Khaliban
-Interstrellar Machine (InterMech)
-grave
-Scorpion
-Kreeargh
-111wallace111 (Jeff Wallace)
those who require personally asking for request
-Skinman
-LB
-Atrahasis
-Admiral
-WickedZombie 45
This person is too confusing so youll need to talk to him
-Atheorhaven 
No kitbashing.
-(no one yet)
Unkown status.
-Joker
ill add more to the list as i get the replies / remember more of the guys
(correct me if im wrong on about something)
Could this thread possibly be stickified?
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Hey I don't mind if you kitbash my stuff
I just want to know
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Do what you want with 'em unless otherwise noted in the readme, which is included in every model.
I mean, these are made for fun...i have a job, lol. 
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Hack N' Slash my models all ya want.
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You can add Interstellar Machine to the first list! I would love to see improvements on my ships.
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Cool, now I don't have to hunt down Knox
Not that I've really done anything big but my stuff is a free for all, I just wanna know if ever anyone wanted to use my stuff for something
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For those folks that require permission, could a list of valid e-mail addresses be added next to thier name?
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ill try to see about the emails but some of them dont want it public
and oh, thanks to whoever it was who stickied this
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Add me to the 'asking' list....
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as requested sire
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well alas i only have one ship done and its a SFC3 oberth but i dont care if anyone bashes it, or uses it at all. just let me know and ill send it off to you( dont have a place to host it)
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I only have two ships right now, an original romulan design called the D'Vera and the Borg renegade ship. I doubt anyone would kitbash them right now due to their lack of detail. But if anyone wanted to, I wouldn't mind as long as you mentioned my work in the credits.
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For those folks that require permission, could a list of valid e-mail addresses be added next to thier name?
Uh... how are we supposed to contact them to ask for permissions if they don't want to give anyone their email address???
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and oh, thanks to whoever it was who stickied this
Nanner did it at my request, thanks Nanner!
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if yur gunna do e-mails, why not go all the way and have their sites listed too?
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Bah...I am always here
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I'm going to add my two cents and state my policy (as of August 2003):
a) You're welcome to kitbash my original stuff all you want as long as you follow 1) and it's in any SFC (1, 2, or 3.)
Otherwise, follow step 2.
b) If I work on or alter someone else's textures, you're welcome to use those textures as long as you follow 1), they're used in SFC, and most importantly, you contact the original texture author whose work I added to and get their permission for release. Otherwise, follow step 2.
c) If I work on or alter someone else's models, you're welcome to kitbash that model as long as you follow 1), they're used
in SFC, and most importantly, you contact the original model author whose work I added to and get their permission for
release. Otherwise, follow step 2.
d) Any screenshots I do up from ingame shots or renders feel free to use *AS LONG AS YOU LET ME KNOW YOU'RE USING THEM AND WHERE!* More times than not, I'll say "go for it".
Now the steps for permission are thus:
1) I like to know that my stuff is used. I really hate feeling that my work falls into the great Modelling Hole once I complete
something. So a long time ago, I started asking a small thing. If you download and use something of my work in a game,
then PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE(!) send me a screenie of it in your game! If you want to kitbash something of my work that you've downloaded, or else use my original or modified textures, then please let me see your final result ingame! To date, over almost 1 and 3/4 years of doing this and working on almost 160 ships plus now, I think maybe two people have sent me screenshots to date.
Hitting F12 in your game does a screenshot. Change it to a JPG and then please let me know that you have something for me.
I like screenies in SFC, it's like Christmas. 
2) If you wish to use my original models and textures, or use the models or textures I modified to put in a game other than
SFC, then I definitely want you to contact me before you port it and ask permission. And I'd also like to see a picture of
the final result in that game as well before it's publically released to that gaming public. The reason for this is, unfortunately very simple. Some of the stuff I worked on was ported over to another game platform. Normally I did not mind too much, although advance notice was nice. However, one of the ships ported over was the ship I renamed after my wife's maiden name. And it was downloaded and played in that platform for almost two months before I was told about it. I found out by accident. Needless to say, I was pretty upset not to know about this work being done with the wife's ship, and more so because I wasn't told for almost two months (and then by way of a general post to everyone here). So now, I have this new policy to try to prevent this from happening in the future. If you can't also contact an original texture author and you know who it is, ask me if I'll try to contact them. I may have some contact info.
So, to sum up.
-> Great, fabulous:
a) Kitbashing and using original models and textures of mine in SFC: go for it! (Just send me a screenie so I know).
-> Good, superb:
b) Kitbashing and using my modifications to others models and textures in SFC: Contact the original author first. If they say
"good to go", then it's good to go, just send me a screenie of your final result so I can enjoy it too! If they don't want it out there, then sorry.. but them's the breaks.
-> Umm, whazzup?:
c) Kitbashing and using my original or modified models and textures that I worked on in anything other than SFC: Contact me! (Ask so I know, and please wait for a yes or a no! If yes, then go ahead, do the port and then send me a screenie from that game, I'd love to see it over there as well).
Think that sums it up.. it's mostly about communication and making sure that noone's feet get stomped on really..
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also as i have stated before you may use anything by me (jeff wallace) as long as you give credit....
By the way hello. I haven't been here for a while due to an overload of work but i should drop by every now and then.
all my past designs have been on fleetdock 13
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Hey jeff.. good to see you again.

For those that don't know him.. 111wallace111 was the first person to model the NX-01 that made it into SFC.
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As far as my "Old" stuff is concerned (My Fleetdock 13 models, and SFC stuff on my site) Knock yourself out. As you may have noticed i havnt posted any new work on here in a long time. That is because I no longer play SFC or BC. Nor do I make models for these games anymore. The motivation just aint there
Im dedicating all of my talent to Homeworld, and future Homeworld2 mods now.
My SFC models are free to do with as you wish being as they are the last ones im doing for the game. In fact im taking down the SFC section of my website soon so grab em while you can. You may post them on your sites or yahoo groups. Im sure Fleetdock 13 will continue hosting what i have there.
As far as my newer Homeworld models are concerned, they are NOT an option. They are strictly for Star Trek-Homeworld team useage only. Do not convert them and use them in any other game. (like what happened b4 with universal evolution. Im not gonna go there again.)
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....SoA never objected my kitbashing , i wonder if it will this time
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Since I have a couple of models under my belt now, I figured I'd let people know where I stand. I have no problem with anyone who wants to modify anything I release be it textures, or the mesh. I only want you to credit me in the readme, also credit anyone else I have put in the my readme so there is no trouble, and I would like a pic of it first to see what it looks like. You never know I might have an idea or two to make it better. Don't laugh, I could!!
Oh I almost forgot, you can also use my ships in any mod you are putting together, just follow the rules above minus sending me a pic if you are not modifying the look of the ship.
Now to be clear, this permission does not extend to The Vampire Lestat's ships, which are the Kyiv, Larson Mark II, Loknar Mark II, Cyrenaica, Dalmazia, and the Oriskany. You will have to seek permission from him for mods or modifying the ships. Judging from the ease I have gotten permission I am sure he'll give it, but it's always polite to ask.
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Once I get some of mine out, I don't mind what anyone does with it. Just a mention in the readme is all I need. No need to ask. Though I wouldn't mind a peek at it...

In the cases that I use a texture from someone else, it will be mentioned in my readme file. Obviously, you'll have to get permission from that person to use it.
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One more to add:
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space gave permission for anyone to use and kitbash any model at his old site, so go ahead and release it
Spacecadetglowuk is ok with his stuff being ktbashed/retextured or altered with proper credit of course.
KF
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Question though, what's his old site address? Or where can people get spacecadetglowuk's models? (This would be kind of a plug for spacecadetglowuk I guess..
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lolol i cant edit the original post because much enough time has passed it sez , but then again... you could just read the thread
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requestion permission from WZ for the use of his new klingon ship and sandman for his cheyenne.. i am using it in a mod im going to release soon (its simply in beta).
before i release to public i would like you guys to please look over it and or at least provide your blessing.
thank you.
(i might have a couple others i used of yours wz - but i cant remember right now with all the model stuff ive been doing)
thanks.
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Sure, go ahead and use it, and thank you for wanting to.

On another note, I have been trying to do that KB you wanted, but it just never looks right. If you want, I can build a mesh of the freedom if you can get someone to texture it, as I don't have SFC3 so don't really know what to do to make it ready for that. Let me know.
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What about MindBlip?
I have lately been tinkering with his excellent models. Hadn't planned on releasing any resulting ships but hey, if he doesn't mind I may.
Anyone know?
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ya he doesnt mind. if i remember wrong just blame me, im pretty sure.
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also as i have stated before you may use anything by me (jeff wallace) as long as you give credit....
By the way hello. I haven't been here for a while due to an overload of work but i should drop by every now and then.
all my past designs have been on fleetdock 13
you ever going to do any more models? I've been eyeing up your site as a source of advisaries for my Bridge commander tos mod. Tons of feds with nothing decent to shoot at...lol That bop with the D7 nacelle is defenetly on da list
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I was trawling through the boards and found this by Thu11s in case anyone wants to know his opinion... this is the last post he made I believe...
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Ok, its official, I'm crap
Sorry for not getting back to anyone on this till now, been on me Hols for a bit and only recently started trawling through my mail
You gotta worry when you log in and it says "2523 new posts"!!!!! lol
K, as far as this lot goes, sweet! go for it. The only thing I ever ask is that credit is given where credit is due, only fair. In all my downloads will be a "credit.txt" file, this gives details of the models origins, so follow that and you can't go worng. The only other thing I ask is that people let me know what there doing, but thats more to do with curiousity/interest than any major concern about plagerism (spelling?) etc. I've e-mailed Emerald Edge and let him know the score and I'll try and get something up on my site regarding permissions etc.
I love the Romulan & Gorn stuff you've done, can never have to much SFB stuff if you ask me Keep em coming
Still around, still working......
Thu11s
<EDIT> cool, 500 posts! feels like more.....
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Since I've decided to open up my upcoming models to more than just the TNZ-playing SFC3 public, I'll go ahead and toss my own... uh... requirements? regarding permissions.
Basically, ask first. I'll rarely say no, but I like to know where my models are going, since they aren't entirely just hobby pieces for me. Most of these are portfolio pieces, so I have a vested interest in them.
So, if you want to kitbash, just ask; modify, just ask; use in a mod, just ask. Private use (IE, for Single player on you own machine or GS games with friends or stuff like that, of course, has implied permission once I've got something up for download. I'd prefer to be asked before my work's distributed on a website publically, too.
In short, I'm on the 'just ask' list. I like to know where my work ends up, and heck-- I may want to see what's being done with it. Play the mod, or something. If there are any specific needs I have for a particular piece, I'll say so when the request comes in. It will also allow me to give out any updates that might come down the line after initial release.
Email: corwyn@kalenda.com (Put SFC3 MODELS in the beginning of the subject line so the mail filter catches it.)
PS: KoraH, you and TNZ already have permission if you end up wanting it for any of my stuff. Just let me know if you decide you want to actually use anything. Since I actually fly TNZ almost exclusively, it'd be silly of me not to offer it up front.
PPS: And of course, all credit where credit is due. I do it, and so should you.
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I remember Firehawk's readme's for all his models said that you can kitbash his work if you give him credit. He made all those Star Wars models before he disappeared.
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Speaking of permissions,
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/phoenixx/phoenix.htm
Kt'Hyla wrote: "Wow you guys have a lot in the works... Go a head with the shuttle conversion, just remember to mention me somewhere in there. And posting a link on the Taldren forums is okay, never know who's going to to find what useful. Just remember to leave a note that if someone want's to convert something to SFC to contact me first. Ditto for whomever want's to convert the older Roms, I like to keep track of where everything's zipping off to . My older Roms are meant to be TOS, rather than Pre-TOS, although by that time most of them were getting a little long in the tooth anyhow...
In a day or two I'll be releasing my Romulan D'Vas BCH, another original of mine, might make a good addition to GaW. "
Qapla!
KF
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I take back what i posted earlier.... Go ahead and use away, just give me a shout
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Important info all right. I hope that perhaps one day I can create models like what I find on here. Right now though more interested in working with what I have been receiving. Kudos to the modelers who help to make a great game a truly excellent experience.
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well since you give up your website can you give it to me?, i need one to place all the mod from eras of war so i can make them available to anyone who's looking for them. email me so we can talk about.
donkarnage@videotron.ca
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As far as my "Old" stuff is concerned (My Fleetdock 13 models, and SFC stuff on my site) Knock yourself out. As you may have noticed i havnt posted any new work on here in a long time. That is because I no longer play SFC or BC. Nor do I make models for these games anymore. The motivation just aint there <img src="http://208.57.228.4/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Im dedicating all of my talent to Homeworld, and future Homeworld2 mods now.
My SFC models are free to do with as you wish being as they are the last ones im doing for the game. In fact im taking down the SFC section of my website soon so grab em while you can. You may post them on your sites or yahoo groups. Im sure Fleetdock 13 will continue hosting what i have there.
As far as my newer Homeworld models are concerned, they are NOT an option. They are strictly for Star Trek-Homeworld team useage only. Do not convert them and use them in any other game. (like what happened b4 with universal evolution. Im not gonna go there again.)
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Im not giving up my web space. I only have 50 megs to work with, and thats being used for Homeworld mods
so any new models for SFC i make will need another host
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Im not giving up my web space. I only have 50 megs to work with, and thats being used for Homeworld mods
so any new models for SFC i make will need another host
Could I suggest using the Starfleet universe model repository for any new SFC models that you create
Thanks for the ones that you have created They are greatly appreciated.
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Anyone wants to do anything with anything of mine, they're more than welcome - I'd just like to see it when it's done.
MajorRacal
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I did initially state that my BC models (Victory, Miradorn, Nihydron etc....) can be converted to SFC. However I have since given DarkMatrix exclusive rights to do so as I can garantee he's good at keeping the model's integrity.
However, if anyone else wants to modify my models/scripts for SFC or any other title I'll probably give you the go-ahead as long as you contact me first and provide me with links to the completed files.
Thx.
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Havent done much yet, but yer welcome to use anything i've put out, just as long as the Original Authors of the parts/ships i used are kept in the credits
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MODS please sticky this...
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well take my ships and do what you like with them ;) I'd love to see someone else getting fun out of them, plus refits/upgrades are always interesting :)
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ok as those stupid guys of the SFC3 unity team banned me because i have sayed they should remove my D-16 from the mod i say you guys have permission to use my models in any SFC 1/2 mod but conversion and use in SFC3 will have no permission from me and i don't like stupid kitbashes so this i not allowed with my models and KF don't worry i have nothing against retextures of my models
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I got Nicola to check the ban records on the ST and SFC Modding boards. Your name isnt on the ban list. 5 banned people, 1 of them was a carry over from the now closed STGD Central boards. The other 4 have been banned for a while, your user name of Terradyhne is up as an active user with full permissions on posting and editing. Your IP does not match any of the 3 IP bans we have on the board either and you show up as a Crewman on the board profile. If you were banned it would be "Currentlly Banned" instead.
http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4135&highlight=
See for yourself, you should be able to post in the forum with no problems at all. If you do get that banned message send an email to me at katie@trek-gamers.com PHPBBFM has been known to act up on occaisions with the Advanced Ban Control mod, probably why theres few people who mess with the ban control options in Fully Modded. I'd get Vic to look into this one, he knows FM like the back of his hand, but he's in hospital.
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NOPE NOT NOW OR EVER IF U GET ONE OF MINE FEEL LUCKY.
nope just kidding i dont care at all if my ships get used as long as they get used and ofcourse proper credit is given. as i have staed in other game forums feel free to use and the only thing i ask in return is the use of anymodels made by that person for there game in return and the readmes is always included. oh and i do know how it feels to have a ship copied and really it is an honor some one would do that. to me it feels they had liked a design i did. still wanting on F_W to finish some of my textures on my new ships. so feel free to use my models in ANY GAME. i repeat ANY GAME.
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The issue is not that we didn't ask your permission. It is that we did not know it was yours. we cannot ask if we do not know. With hundreds of models we did not go back and ask permission from each modeller that Korah had already gotten thier work from. Unity 1.0 was the renamed version of TNZ 3.0
The single model in question was in Korah's TNZ which he gave us permission to use. The model folders were ported over unchanged from one computer to another.
If you had not come into our forum and taken such a bad attitude from your first post and used foul language I would have been more than willing to remove it or overwrite it with another version.
Personally Terradyne you need to get out more and work on your interpersonal skills some.
This "I am gonna take my toys and go home" stuff is for kindergarteners. Spare us your temper tantrum
"Please" goes along way with me. four letter words don't evoke much cooperation either.
P.S. No one banned you, however if you continue to come in the forum and curse us out I will ban you.
To everyone else: Sorry this useful thread got hijacked.
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Well here is my Answer to all this I made my ships to be played with so do whatever, but yes I would like credit as well, if you kitbash them or whatnot. Here is the web site they are on.
http://sfcmodsrus.0catch.com/khalee.html
As you can see not many there and they are not too good,but there they are if you wantem. Oh and thanks to ratpak for hosting them. Maybe Ill get the Gorn BB done one of these days.
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I don't have the authority to give you permission to do anything with the models I've made.
You could seek my approval, though ...
... but I wouldn't be surprised if you did whatever it was you were gonna do without it ... ;)
I'd like a screenshot of whatever you do, just because it'd be cool.
Play the game. Tweak the game. Have fun.
I, Mudd.
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I thought there was a lack of this post on this boards but now I'm seeing it :o :) Yeah Mackie did a great job by creating it :) Thakns Nanner for reviving it back :D
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I've only been here a short amount of time, but with more original stuff coming out I thought I'd better post here so there is no confusion.
In all my stuff there is a read-me that correctly credits the creator of the model/texture. Anything with my name on it needs to be run by me before you release a modified version. Thanks :)
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Anyone can use my stuff.
If I ever make any. Sorry I just want to be included. :-[
Thanks to all of the above because I play around with making ships etc and by giving your permission here it makes it easier to learn. Thanks guys.
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BIG BUMP....
I would like to make a free to public mod for Starshatter, featuring ships by several artists. There is unspeakable amounts of work involved, but it is a freespace sort of enviornment.,.. meaning you can pretty much fly around all day, kind like playing SFC in a perpetual mission... although very basic... dont have any tractor beams, yet, cloaking device... but I got moddable beams, torpedos, and missiles... and I got got warp drives also
Anyhow, in no particular order, I believe I posess models from these artists, and ask for permission to convert them to SS format (.mag, textures in .pcx), and play with them most likely all by myself...
Atolm/Azel
Sandman
Pneumatic81
Stresspuppy
Brezgonne
WickedZombie
RedDragon
Atra
Mackie
Thu11s
I.Mudd
Darkdrone
Dawn
Raven Night
Terradyne
Skinman
MajorRacal
DestyNova
KaneAvenue
Quite a list, I probrobly wont be putting this mod up for download until at least by late December... or never.
I have also created several mods for SFC:Op and especially SFC3, and thought about releasing some of these ideas I had... never got the courage to ask for permission until now, but thought, 'what the hey'.
Thank you each and every one of you listed, at the forums, or anyone else who spends their precious free time creating models for us to enjoy, you are appreciated.
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I may as well add my voice to this seeing as some of my own have been converted to SFC already.
If the model to be kitbashed or ripped apart is one I've personally built then feel free to "experiment" all you want. Just check for texture credits and use them, if anythings going to be re-released. If the models are just ones I've converted that someone else made, then please check for the original crediting I used.
Thanks one and all.
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OK, My rules:
1)SFC conversions of my models are done by the Outalance team, and NOONE else.
2)I'm perfectrly OK with conversions to games other than BC/SFC, and retextures of my stuff, but it's nice to show me what's done before release, and after that a link to the download of the file...
3)I will never allow kitbashing of my stuff, I'm against that.
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Anything I put crayons too is somebody elses model,'cept the bashes (obviously) but they too come from someone elses model. Feel free to use any of my textures (though they are no where near great yet) Unless they appear on someone's ship that has particulars when it comes to their stuff.
-MP