Post by: sandman69247 on September 20, 2003, 11:04:22 am
Also, originally I was able to reduce the polies from 10000+ to around 8500...it's getting lower, as everything seems to have a double face. I select a section to detach and map, and there's another identical section under it, like when it was converted it made multiple LODs. So....Should be less when I'm done, just time consuming.Azel, please let me know what class to make it...I can't do the windows without knowing. Right now I'm doing her as a Light Cruiser.
Here's the pics:
Post by: Fire Blade on September 20, 2003, 11:48:17 am
The reg is UFPF Challenger OVL 9195-L and the bridge should be black
i have an old model of this ship by M Pitt i will send you a copy if you like
Fire Blade
Post by: Azel on September 20, 2003, 01:14:45 pm
She looks awesome so far man...if you noticed saucer has some added "meat" to her(that extra level on the dorsal side)
make use of it if you like.
As for the registry...if you could do two versions of the registry...that would be cool...if not then thats cool too
Thanks Sandman!!!!
Post by: Azel on September 20, 2003, 01:18:46 pm
Thanks
Post by: Fire Blade on September 20, 2003, 04:38:35 pm
Post by: sandman69247 on September 20, 2003, 08:38:56 pm
Light Cruiser it is then.
I always want to make these things with a Connie saucer a cruiser...frigates are too small for the saucer to be believable, IMHO. Hope to have more pics manana.
Post by: Rod O'neal on September 20, 2003, 11:31:32 pm
Post by: Azel on September 21, 2003, 01:13:07 am
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Thanx Fire Blade, that would be nice to have.
Light Cruiser it is then. I always want to make these things with a Connie saucer a cruiser...frigates are too small for the saucer to be believable, IMHO.
Hope to have more pics manana.
I cann'a wait man!!!
THANKS!!!!
Post by: James Formo on September 21, 2003, 02:03:32 am
Post by: Azel on September 21, 2003, 10:18:51 pm
I know its shameless but what can I do
Post by: sandman69247 on September 22, 2003, 11:15:00 am
I will work on it tonight, I promise and post some pics. I was thinking, since this is kinda a kitbash, what with different parts from different ships, things won't match up exactly. Does anyone agree? What I mean is, mayber colors and panels are a little off from one section to the next. Just a thought.
Post by: Rod O'neal on September 22, 2003, 11:33:18 am
Football is an acceptable excuse for any sin of omission.
Post by: Azel on September 22, 2003, 12:44:57 pm
all alien materials...it is that olive green-biege?? color
But yeah feel free to experiment and explore
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Post by: Smiley on September 25, 2003, 01:56:14 pm
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DAS BOOMP
ROTFLMAO!!!!..........Ja
Post by: Fire Blade on September 25, 2003, 09:05:10 pm
Post by: sandman69247 on September 26, 2003, 01:37:01 am
Soryy guys, I couldn't help it.
Unfortunately, I have accomplished little in the last few days. Either my kids brought something home from school or my wife did from the pharmacy where she is a clerk and deals with sick peeps...either way I was laid up for awhile, but I'm good to go now.
I have the day off tomorrow and plan on working on it as long as my old eyes and my ol' lady let me. Hopefully I can get a lot done, but it is slow going due to the extra layer of polys under the top ones. It's almost like when you import a stock model and have 3 ships in the same spot...the LODs I believe. I select a section to detach for mapping, detach it, then say WTF!
To reiterate how this all came about, Azel sent me the mesh in LWO and MS3D formats...I opened them in Deep Exploration (no, not at the same time) and converted to 3ds format, then imported to max. Both models show the same effect and I am stumped. 
If anyone knows what might have happened and can make this easier, please let me know. Azel, if possible, could you send it to me in mod format? Maybe it's just something with DE and converting to 3ds. Thanx for the help in advance if you can.
Ant help on the doubling issue would be highly appreciated.
Post by: atheorhaven on September 26, 2003, 02:45:47 pm
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Post by: atheorhaven on September 27, 2003, 12:09:12 am
Sacrificial virgins to be deflowered can be left by the door. (GRIN)
Hey J, can Max 5 handle Max 3.1 .MAX files? Or should I just send you the resulting .MOD instead?
(and email me your current email addy that'll handle 1MB+ file attachments)...
Post by: Azel on September 27, 2003, 08:29:03 am
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Okay, you two are officially going to hate me.
Why???
Thanks man
Post by: atheorhaven on September 28, 2003, 02:45:03 pm
Post by: Azel on September 28, 2003, 05:21:01 pm
pics!!!
Post by: atheorhaven on September 28, 2003, 09:56:04 pm
Post by: Azel on September 29, 2003, 02:32:48 pm
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Just as soon as Sandman gets things done, I'm sure you'll see them.
I know man(sorry Sandman) but I am just soo excited...I love to work with the great veterans
Post by: atheorhaven on October 01, 2003, 11:26:07 am
Hey look J.. we're veterans now..
That means soon we can collect a pension. WooHoo! And open the "Old Modellers Convelesance Home for Tottering Oldies" center where we can slide into senility and decrepitude.
Dibs on the cattle prod..
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Post by: sandman69247 on October 09, 2003, 11:52:02 pm
Hey Alec....how the hell did you get to convert properly? 
Wait...don't you have a lwo to max plug-in? I know I have it somewhere on my hd...just have to find it and see if it works in max5.Anyway, I'll post some pics manana.
Post by: Azel on October 10, 2003, 11:53:50 am
YEAH!!!!
Post by: atheorhaven on October 11, 2003, 12:23:21 am
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Hey Alec....how the hell did you get to convert properly?
I sort of do, but what I have simply converts over geometry and the mappings go out the window. I was able to convert this because I was able to convert over the MS3D mesh, and that's what worked. Mind you, I'll only have that ability for roughly 15 or so more days until my shareware copy of MS3D goes belly-up.. but hey, it allowed me to get this across for you, so it'd be worth it. One of these days I'd like to register it (Milkshape), but right now I have other priorities.
(Found out that the reason my van died was because the timing belt got all snagged up and kind of brought things to a screeching halt. So the $25 or so that could've potentially gone towards registering Milkshape has gone towards a new timing belt, and then it's some more hard labor in order to get that one pulley back straight and get the belt on and timing set before the temperature outside starts to drop to -40 and we *really* need a working van.) :/
Post by: Azel on October 12, 2003, 10:20:24 pm
Post by: sandman69247 on October 13, 2003, 02:38:38 pm
I seem to be saying that alot these days...anyway, about 40% finished with it, but things should go smoother with Alecs conversion. I tried just applying what I had to the new mesh, but it's all out of whack. I can import max3 files, but the geometry is a little different. So, I've had to remap and make new templates for the textures. One question...the indented area on the neck...is that for photons or something else?I will (really) post pics tonight...I will be working on it most of the day.
Post by: Azel on October 13, 2003, 05:43:48 pm
Post by: sandman69247 on October 13, 2003, 06:15:32 pm
See, I told ya I'd have some pics for ya.
Saucers just about done, just need to do the impulse drive. Speaking of the neck, you said you wanted the UFP symbol on it...what color, and which one? I'm thinking the wreath and star field symbol with the black background...have some other ideas involving the black, since the Challenger had a black bridge, to make it even out.Here's what I have so far...
Post by: Azel on October 13, 2003, 09:08:41 pm
Cool Idea with the windows on the bridge module
as for the UFP symbol... seeing as the ship is a color mixture of like that olive drab(on the alien parts...Nacelles, interhull bridge, and impuse assembly) with standard Federation Grey... I say make the UFP symbol a purple-ish blue
Thanks again man!!!
Post by: sandman69247 on October 14, 2003, 07:36:27 pm
Post by: Azel on October 14, 2003, 07:41:25 pm
Good color...I go with the top its darker...also if you can make the bridge color a dark charcoal grey(not so dark as black) so that it will be seen just a bit ... Thanks
Post by: sandman69247 on October 14, 2003, 07:49:33 pm
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