Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 11:09:11 am
I just sent her to SteelViper for som skins
I am sure he'll post some pics
Post by: Kaenyne on November 06, 2003, 11:14:46 am
Always a cool thing!
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 06, 2003, 11:14:50 am
Post by: Kaenyne on November 06, 2003, 11:17:21 am
And
how did you italisize your test?IThis English major has to know!
Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 11:26:47 am
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You're doing the Lost Era ships? Dude! Do you guys happen to have the Universe or the Ivarix-class from Serpents Among the Ruins?
What Race are those ships from???
I would do them too...The Cardassian is totally a design that I guessed...
Any info or descriptive text would be good too
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 06, 2003, 11:30:15 am
The Sundered
O'Neil Colonies
Neyel Warships
Tholian ships (probably just use the ones from KA/GAW)
Serpents Among the Ruins
Romulan Ivarix-class (The Tomed is of this class) Warbird
Federation U.S.S. Universe
Federation Oddysseus-class
The Art of the Impossible
Cardassian Akril-class
Klingon Birok-class strike cruiser (a modification of the Kleev XCA from OP?)
Romulan Amarcan-class Warbird (mentioned in passing in TAotI, but named in Vulcan's Heart)
Klingon Vakk-class cruiser
Well of Souls
Cardassian scout
Vulcan warp-shuttle (Named the T'Pol, big enough to carry its own pod)
Post by: Kaenyne on November 06, 2003, 11:33:00 am
I woul dguess they are exclusive to those books, and only in the imaginations of their respective authors.
But fortunately, that's never stopped SFC modelers!
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 06, 2003, 11:54:57 am
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Any info or descriptive text would be good too
Some authors are better at describing their ships than others. The best descriptions are from Serpents Among the Ruins, the book about the Tomed Incident.
The Romulan Ivarix-class:
"It's main body, curving laterally from the tip of its bow back to its linear stern, stretched nearly as long and wide as all of the Enterprise [Note: It's the Excelsior-class Enterprise-B]. A flat, thick neck reached forward to a smaller, aquiline structure, and two warp nacelles sat atop broad, winglike supports that arched outward and upward from the main section. The design evoked a distinctly avian feel, as of a hawk swooping down on its prey -- an image chillingly appropriate in this case, Harriman thought. He recognized the vessel at once as a Romulan ship of the line."
Also has a quantum singularity core (probably the first ship to do that), disruptors, plasma and photon torpedoes. It can also travel in an atmosphere.
The Federation Odysseus-class:
"The curved engine nacelles of the Odysseus vessels represented an experimental Starfleet design three decades old -- a design that, while functional, had been abandoned when theorized efficiencies in warp-field generation had never materialized. Only two of the eight ships built remained in active service..."
Better make that only one by the end of the novel.
U.S.S. Universe, NX-2999:
"With a particularly wide beam and shallow depth, the starship looked as though it had been compacted top to bottom, and spread port to starboard. The primary hull, a narrow ellipse with its major axis running fore and aft, had no rise to it at its center. The secondary hull, another level, narrow ellipse, but smalle, connected to the primary hull directly, the forward section of the former lying directly below the aft section of the latter. A pair of thin struts, angling backward, connected each of the two warp nacelles to the secondary hull. The nacelles themselves were flat and wide, flaring out broadly from their midpoints aft. The two-hull, two-nacelle alignment suggested a resemblence to other Starfleet vessels, but departed dramatically from those other designs in execution."
Give the true mission of the Universe, it was either cobbled together quickly or was an old design redressed for its task. Probably the latter, since it was only seven months between the conception of the plan and its execution.
I've been revisiting SAtR for my timeline, so I've been trying to extrapolate date points for when certain ships were launched and when certain events happened leading up to the Tomed Incident.
Post by: Kaenyne on November 06, 2003, 12:01:06 pm
The Rommie sounds very intriguing!
I'm reminded of Thu11s' Condor...
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 06, 2003, 12:23:36 pm
O'Neil Colonies and Neyel Warships from The Sundered:
Both are essentially asteroid bases refitted with engines.
Tholian warships from The Sundered:
Since the novel takes place a few years before the Galaxies at War timeframe, the Tholian ships probably are identical to those that Taldren released last month.
Cardassian Akril-class from The Art of the Impossible:
That's already been covered.
Klingon Birok-class strike cruiser from The Art of the Impossible:
As I said before, I picture this as a modification of the Kleev-class XCA from Orion Pirates. Since the Klingon economy didn't have a lot of money to throw around, it would make sense that this was a modification of another design rather than a new ship. So, perhaps the Birok is the XCB?
Romulan Amarcan-class Warbird from Vulcan's Heart, mentioned without naming it in The Art of the Impossible:
There's a short description from VH:
"An image of a ship, the eagle on its underbelly freshly painted, formed on the screen, and Saavik straightened in alarm. This ship was perhaps twenty percent bigger than the old warbirds, with more graceful lines than the K'tinga-class Klingon vessels that the Empire had used in recent decades."
This book was written in 1999, four years before The Lost Era Series started coming out. Adding more intrigue is that the warbird on the cover of the novel was a reuse of the D'Deridex seen on TNG and DS9. So, with a little extrapoliation, we can assume that the Amarcan is 20% bigger than the Ivarix, but smaller than the D'Deridex with a double hull. Maybe it's kind of like the Melak from New Worlds.
Klingon Vakk-class cruiser from The Art of the Impossible:
This ship was the first new class of Klingon cruiser since the turn of the century built after the attack on Narendra III. It's probably a step in between OP's Kleev and TNG's Vor'cha.
Cardassian scout from Well of Souls:
Nothing on this one. Probably looks like the Hideki-class from DS9.
Vulcan warp-shuttle T'Pol from Well of Souls:
Again, very little. The term shuttle is a misnomer as its big enough to have crew quarters and its own shuttlepod. Probably the evolutionary descendant of the warp shuttle from The Motion Picture.
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on November 06, 2003, 12:43:25 pm
Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 12:52:23 pm
As for the others...this is going to be tough....lol
Post by: sandman69247 on November 06, 2003, 12:59:16 pm
This is going to be fun!! 
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on November 06, 2003, 01:13:11 pm
Tell me what you think
Post by: sandman69247 on November 06, 2003, 01:27:06 pm
OK, now to add this to the ship list.
Post by: Kaenyne on November 06, 2003, 01:46:17 pm
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 06, 2003, 02:57:29 pm
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That's pretty good!
Post by: Desty_Nova on November 06, 2003, 03:01:47 pm
Another must-have
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on November 06, 2003, 03:04:16 pm
Post by: starforce2 on November 06, 2003, 03:18:54 pm
Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 04:03:08 pm
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Im not happy with her. Something is missing...Of course it cant really be seen with the Quality of these JPEG's but something is off...
Possibly the absence of the greeble in the wings...like the Galor
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on November 06, 2003, 04:14:59 pm
Okay, now im happy
Post by: Desty_Nova on November 06, 2003, 04:57:11 pm
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 06, 2003, 08:10:32 pm
Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 08:12:26 pm
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Well, if you're taking suggestions, how about pushing the bridge module forward just a tish?
Thats a negative sir....As it is suposed to be an obselete design...according to the book
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 06, 2003, 08:15:46 pm
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Thats a negative sir....As it is suposed to be an obselete design...according to the book
I'm not saying make it hang over the front like the Galor...I'm just saying move it forward so that it doesn't look like its slanted backwards. Or alter the shape of the module so it doesn't look that sleek and aerodynamic. It is an obsolete design, after all.
Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 08:19:51 pm
Post by: Rat_Boy on November 06, 2003, 08:26:35 pm
Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 08:26:37 pm
But if you want, I do have to make another Cardassian ship...possibly 2...I would love(if you want) to have you as my advisor on her
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on November 06, 2003, 08:54:16 pm
The sleeker ships coming about then and what not, and later on the Galor and the Keldon more boxy and less graceful due to the more utilitarian needs.
It was like that for the Roman Empire and their swords. In the middle or height of the Roman empire they used the Mainz style gladius which was gracefuly made, but later on the used the Pompeii style which is alot more ugly, but alot easier to make...
Interesting, no?
Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 09:01:38 pm
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Post by: Azel on November 10, 2003, 06:32:48 pm
Thanks
Post by: sandman69247 on November 14, 2003, 12:31:46 pm
Any news?
Post by: Kaenyne on November 14, 2003, 12:39:28 pm
She's pretty, and I'm not to fond of the reptiles at that!
Post by: sandman69247 on November 15, 2003, 10:51:03 am
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