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Title: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operating
Post by: Toasty0 on November 10, 2003, 06:52:05 am
Normally I would quote the article, but I think that to put this article in perspective the reader should see who is paying the piper for the publisher to publish this article.

A drop of irony anyone?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/10/technology/10novell.html?ex=1069045200&en=c72d7100a41ad53d&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE  
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Kortez on November 10, 2003, 09:06:54 am
Toasty, IBM has long wanted Microsoft brought to its knees.  This announcement is no surprise.  I  hope Novell is successful.  IN fact, I have a new copy of SuSE 9.1 Professional.  So far I definitely prefer RedHat to SuSE in the sense that SuSE can be a bit buggy at the SysAdmin's level.  SuSE has a far superior X Window desktop.  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.  

I have always felt a good amount of choice is good for the computing industry and those who happen to use those computers.

You know, if you remember IBM from the 80s and early 90s it is somewhat amazing IBM supports Linux.  I have to grant you that.


 
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: 762 on November 10, 2003, 09:18:31 am
I hope it goes better than Novell's last desktop OS.

Anybody remember DR-DOS? <snicker>
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Kortez on November 10, 2003, 09:21:59 am
That version of Unix was very user unfriendly, in a time of poor X Window development.  There was no Open Office like there is now, and the use of Unix was clunky at best.  Propeller heads like me loved it but few normal people

Hell, I have a computer with 3 flavors of Linux AND FreeBSD installed on it.

We will see.  I think this is a losing battle, but you never know.
 
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Toasty0 on November 10, 2003, 03:15:45 pm
Quote:

Toasty, IBM has long wanted Microsoft brought to its knees.  This announcement is no surprise.  I  hope Novell is successful.  IN fact, I have a new copy of SuSE 9.1 Professional.  So far I definitely prefer RedHat to SuSE in the sense that SuSE can be a bit buggy at the SysAdmin's level.  SuSE has a far superior X Window desktop.  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.  

I have always felt a good amount of choice is good for the computing industry and those who happen to use those computers.

You know, if you remember IBM from the 80s and early 90s it is somewhat amazing IBM supports Linux.  I have to grant you that.


 



IBM is a corporation culture caught in the grips of living in its glories of the past and is busy trying to revenge percieved wrongs from that same past. That paradigm does not strike me as a savy business formula in the long run.

Best,
Jerry  
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: hobbesmaster on November 10, 2003, 06:28:52 pm
Quote:

  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.    



Uhm.  Slackware, Gentoo and Debian all come long before SuSE, Mandrake and Red Hat in my book...  
Title: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operating
Post by: Toasty0 on November 10, 2003, 06:52:05 am
Normally I would quote the article, but I think that to put this article in perspective the reader should see who is paying the piper for the publisher to publish this article.

A drop of irony anyone?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/10/technology/10novell.html?ex=1069045200&en=c72d7100a41ad53d&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE  
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Kortez on November 10, 2003, 09:06:54 am
Toasty, IBM has long wanted Microsoft brought to its knees.  This announcement is no surprise.  I  hope Novell is successful.  IN fact, I have a new copy of SuSE 9.1 Professional.  So far I definitely prefer RedHat to SuSE in the sense that SuSE can be a bit buggy at the SysAdmin's level.  SuSE has a far superior X Window desktop.  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.  

I have always felt a good amount of choice is good for the computing industry and those who happen to use those computers.

You know, if you remember IBM from the 80s and early 90s it is somewhat amazing IBM supports Linux.  I have to grant you that.


 
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: 762 on November 10, 2003, 09:18:31 am
I hope it goes better than Novell's last desktop OS.

Anybody remember DR-DOS? <snicker>
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Kortez on November 10, 2003, 09:21:59 am
That version of Unix was very user unfriendly, in a time of poor X Window development.  There was no Open Office like there is now, and the use of Unix was clunky at best.  Propeller heads like me loved it but few normal people

Hell, I have a computer with 3 flavors of Linux AND FreeBSD installed on it.

We will see.  I think this is a losing battle, but you never know.
 
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Toasty0 on November 10, 2003, 03:15:45 pm
Quote:

Toasty, IBM has long wanted Microsoft brought to its knees.  This announcement is no surprise.  I  hope Novell is successful.  IN fact, I have a new copy of SuSE 9.1 Professional.  So far I definitely prefer RedHat to SuSE in the sense that SuSE can be a bit buggy at the SysAdmin's level.  SuSE has a far superior X Window desktop.  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.  

I have always felt a good amount of choice is good for the computing industry and those who happen to use those computers.

You know, if you remember IBM from the 80s and early 90s it is somewhat amazing IBM supports Linux.  I have to grant you that.


 



IBM is a corporation culture caught in the grips of living in its glories of the past and is busy trying to revenge percieved wrongs from that same past. That paradigm does not strike me as a savy business formula in the long run.

Best,
Jerry  
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: hobbesmaster on November 10, 2003, 06:28:52 pm
Quote:

  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.    



Uhm.  Slackware, Gentoo and Debian all come long before SuSE, Mandrake and Red Hat in my book...  
Title: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operating
Post by: Toasty0 on November 10, 2003, 06:52:05 am
Normally I would quote the article, but I think that to put this article in perspective the reader should see who is paying the piper for the publisher to publish this article.

A drop of irony anyone?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/10/technology/10novell.html?ex=1069045200&en=c72d7100a41ad53d&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE  
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Kortez on November 10, 2003, 09:06:54 am
Toasty, IBM has long wanted Microsoft brought to its knees.  This announcement is no surprise.  I  hope Novell is successful.  IN fact, I have a new copy of SuSE 9.1 Professional.  So far I definitely prefer RedHat to SuSE in the sense that SuSE can be a bit buggy at the SysAdmin's level.  SuSE has a far superior X Window desktop.  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.  

I have always felt a good amount of choice is good for the computing industry and those who happen to use those computers.

You know, if you remember IBM from the 80s and early 90s it is somewhat amazing IBM supports Linux.  I have to grant you that.


 
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: 762 on November 10, 2003, 09:18:31 am
I hope it goes better than Novell's last desktop OS.

Anybody remember DR-DOS? <snicker>
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Kortez on November 10, 2003, 09:21:59 am
That version of Unix was very user unfriendly, in a time of poor X Window development.  There was no Open Office like there is now, and the use of Unix was clunky at best.  Propeller heads like me loved it but few normal people

Hell, I have a computer with 3 flavors of Linux AND FreeBSD installed on it.

We will see.  I think this is a losing battle, but you never know.
 
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: Toasty0 on November 10, 2003, 03:15:45 pm
Quote:

Toasty, IBM has long wanted Microsoft brought to its knees.  This announcement is no surprise.  I  hope Novell is successful.  IN fact, I have a new copy of SuSE 9.1 Professional.  So far I definitely prefer RedHat to SuSE in the sense that SuSE can be a bit buggy at the SysAdmin's level.  SuSE has a far superior X Window desktop.  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.  

I have always felt a good amount of choice is good for the computing industry and those who happen to use those computers.

You know, if you remember IBM from the 80s and early 90s it is somewhat amazing IBM supports Linux.  I have to grant you that.


 



IBM is a corporation culture caught in the grips of living in its glories of the past and is busy trying to revenge percieved wrongs from that same past. That paradigm does not strike me as a savy business formula in the long run.

Best,
Jerry  
Title: Re: With the deals, Novell is battling Microsoft on its home turf: the PC operat
Post by: hobbesmaster on November 10, 2003, 06:28:52 pm
Quote:

  I am sure with a patch here and there, though, it could be easy for SuSE to be about the best Linux distro.    



Uhm.  Slackware, Gentoo and Debian all come long before SuSE, Mandrake and Red Hat in my book...