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Title: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on March 02, 2004, 10:26:48 pm
Ive often refered to as FoaS Star Trek, or Steelviper33 Star Trek...and lets face it, Startrek is like a saladbar, take what you want and leave the rest.
So, i was curious what do peopel have set up for weapon types.

Here is what i have

Federation
 - Primary: Phasers
 - Heavy: Photon Torpedo / Quantum Torpedo

Klingon
 - Primary: Disruptors
 - Heavy: Photon Torpedo / Ion Cannon

Romulan
 - Primary  Disruptors
 - Heavy: Plasma Torpedo / Heavy Disruptors

Lyran
 - Primary: Disruptors
 - Heavy: ESG / Heavy Disruptors / ESG Lance

Hydran
 - Primary:  Phasers
 - Heavy: Hellbore / Fusion Cannon

Gorn
 - Primary:  Phasers
 - Heavy: Plasma Torpedo

ISC
 - Primary:  Phaser
 - Heavy: Plasma Torpedo / PPD

Andromedans
 - Primary: Unknown
 - Heavy: Tractor / Repulsor Beams

Tholians
 - Primary: Disruptors / Particle Cannons
 - Heavy: Photon Torpedo /  Web-casters

LDR
 - Primary: Phasers
 - Heavy: ESG

Mirak/Kzinti
 - Primary: Disruptor
 - Heavy: Missiles - Still workin on this one / Heavy Disruptors
See, in my universe, Photons are basically Glorified missiles...and i dont want to have both Missiles and Photons....but if i make them have photons they are too much like feds.

Cardassian
 - Primary: Phaser
 - Heavy: Photon Torpedo / Plasma Cannons (Different from Plasma Torpedos)

Dominion
 - Primary: Poleron Beam
 - Heavy: Poleron Torpedo

Son'a
 - Primary: Phasers
 - Heavy: Photon Torpedo, Isolytic Weaponry

Species 8472
 - Primary: Bio-Pulse Cannon
 - Heavy: (Dunno Yet)
This is the one i really need help with

Borg
 - Primary: Cutter Bean
 - Heavy: Gravimetric Torpedo

Uhhh...this is all that comes to mind off hand...so yeah....
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: SSCF_LeRoy on March 02, 2004, 10:32:14 pm
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Andromedans
(No Idea, I never saw what they use)



That would be phasers as the primaries and tractor/repulsor beams as the heavies.

Quote:

Tholians
- Primary: Phasers
- Heavy: (No idea, Yet)



I think that they used disrupters as a heavy weapon as well as their web caster.

Also in the the lil' Trek universe in my brain (   ) I envision the "disruptor" races (Klingon, Romulan, Lyran, Kzinti) as using disruptors as a primary and a heavy weapon (disruptor beam emitters as primaries and pulse cannon as heavies).

 
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on March 02, 2004, 10:34:52 pm
Thanks
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: SSCF_LeRoy on March 02, 2004, 10:44:59 pm
Dont' forget photon and quantum torpedoes for the Cardassians.

The Borg may also use a form disruptor. I base this on a snippet of dialogue that I recall from the episode of "Voyager" where the Voyager crew encounter Species 8472 for the first time. Tuvoc noticed some damage done to an organic component of a bioship and commented that it was caused by a Borg disruptor.    
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on March 02, 2004, 10:53:04 pm
I debated with myself about the whole Cardassian Photons vs. Plasma....i think i may change it to Photons and have Plasma as a secondary heavy, but im not entirely sure...But they aren't gonna have Quantums...thats for Feddies and Feddies alone.
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Marauth on March 03, 2004, 08:42:04 am
Originally the Cardy heavy weapon was something called a 'spiral -wave disruptor' which is what the big red square on the front was meant to be but since the Dominion War we've never seen them use the big red thing, only phasers and photons.

The Tholians when they arrived only used phasers and disruptors which they nicked of the Klingons, then the Feds gave them photons IIRC, then when the Neo-Tholians arrived they got the proper web-casters which superceded their other heavy weapons.

The LDR used gatling phasers as their main weaponry not regular phasers.

The Andro main weapons are not actually phasers in SFB - they do exactly the same damage as a phaser-2 so they're just reffered to as Ph2s
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on March 03, 2004, 08:43:53 am
What are the Andromedan STD weapon called?
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Parislord on March 03, 2004, 07:52:44 pm
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The LDR used gatling phasers as their main weaponry not regular phasers.

 



I'm looking at my LDR SSD's and I'm not seeing that, they've got Ph-1/2 just like the Lyran Star Empire.  Only the PD Ph-3's are replaced by Ph-G on my SSDs.  Which module are you using?
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Futurama_Guy on March 03, 2004, 08:22:52 pm
Quote:

I debated with myself about the whole Cardassian Photons vs. Plasma....i think i may change it to Photons and have Plasma as a secondary heavy, but im not entirely sure...But they aren't gonna have Quantums...thats for Feddies and Feddies alone.  



Sufficed to say the Cardassian Dreadnaught from Voyager had quantum torpedoes, and that was part of its regular armament, so the Cardassians did have access to that technology by 2370, around the same time the Federation developed it.
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on March 03, 2004, 10:11:29 pm
hmmm

The original Dreadnaught had Heavy Photon Torpedoes. The Maquis stole Quantums from Feddies and fitted them onto the Dreadnaught?

I just dont want to give the Cardassians Quantums if they are gonna have Plasma's as well (taking a bit from Armada2)
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on March 03, 2004, 10:22:34 pm
"What are Andromedan Standard Weapons Called?" (i know they function the same as Phaser2's, but just a name would be cool.)
That question still isnt answered

I still need a few ideas for Species 8472 weapons

and one more question: when it comes to Tholians what are Particle Cannons?
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Marauth on March 03, 2004, 10:53:24 pm
I know of no Tholian weapon called a particle cannon - their main heavy weapon is the web-caster which is a one ship version of the web from the TOS episode, they got it from the Neo-Tholians.

Re: the LDR, that's just my own personal opinion on the LDR, I've never even played SFB
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Julin Eurthyr on March 04, 2004, 10:55:08 am
Andro Phaser-like weapon:  "Official" name unrevealed.  Basically, it shoots as often as a Ph-2, and it hurts like a Ph-2, hence it's a Ph-2, even though the phaser might be a thick  blue energy-bolt instead of a skinny phaser-line.  The exact look and makeup of this weapon are unrevealed.

Tholian (and Seltorian) Particle Cannons:  1/2 strength disrupotors capable of firing twice a turn (much like a C-rack).  There is a limit as to how long it takes between first and second shot, and the Part. Cannon can only be overloaded for it's first shot per turn.
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: ganymad on March 04, 2004, 02:27:48 pm
i use the following for tmp era:

federation: primary:phaser-2 (standart), phaser-1(megaphasercannons),phaser-4(starbases)
heavy: photons , mines

klingon: primary:disruptor-3(standart) , heavy disruptor (on some few ships/romulan tech exchange)
heavy: heavy photons,mines

romulan: primary: heavy disruptors (late era only), disruptor-3(klingon tech ships , no primaries on early era ships)
heavy: plasma-R, plasma-S, plasma-G, plasma-F, mauler, mines , nuclear mines

gorn: primary: disruptor-2
heavy: phaser-B,plasma-E , plasma-D, mines

lyran: phaser X,disruptor-4
heavy:esg,esg-lance

hydran: primary:gatlingphaser
heavy: fusionbeam , hellbore

mirak:primary:phaser-3, disroptor-1
heavy:all kinds of missle racks(exept mirv),mines

isc: primary:gatlingphaser-2,phaser-A
heavy: plasma-X, plasma-I, ppd

orions: all weapons exept the isc weapons

most weapons were renamed:

general:

ph-1    phaser class 1
ph-2    phaser class 2
ph-3    phaser class 3
ph-4    heavy phaser class 4
ph-G   phaser class 3-G
ph-G2 phaser class 2-G  
ph-X    phaser class 1X
ph-A   assaultphaser
ph-B   battlephaser

dis-1   disruptor class 1
dis-2   disruptor class 2
dis-3   disruptor class 3
dis-4   disruptor class 4
h-dis   disruptorbeam
mlr      heavy disruptorbeam
f-dis    light disruptor

f-phot  light photon
phot    photons class F
h-phot photons class K

pl-R   plasma Class R-R
pl-S   plasma Class R-S
pl-G   plasma Class R-G
pl-F   plasma  Class R-F
pl-E   plasma Class G-E
pl-X   plasma Class I-X
pl-D   plasma Class G-D
pl-I    plasma Class I-I

esg   expandidc sphere generator
esg-l plasma beam

fus   fusionbeam
hellb hellbore

racks werent renamed

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empire specific:

ph-1  (fed) phaser type VIII
ph-2  (fed) phaser type VII
ph-3  (mir) phaser type Ceta
ph-4  (fed) phaser type XII
ph-G (hyd) phaser type G
ph-G2 (isc) multiple phaser
ph-X (lyr) phaser Mk. 10
ph-A  (isc) epm phaser
ph-B  (gor) attackphaser

dis-1 (mir) disruptor type alpha
dis-2 (gor) disruptor type G
dis-3 (kli) disruptor Mk. VI ; (rom) disruptor RK-VI
dis-4 (lyr) disruptor Mk.III
h-dis (rom) disruptor R-1
mlr    (rom) heavy disruptor R-A
f-dis   (kli)  light disruptor Mk.II

f-phot (fed) fighter photon III
phot   (fed) photon type IV
h-phot (kli) photon Mk.III

pl-R (rom) plasma type R
pl-S (rom) plasma type S
pl-G (rom) plasma type G
pl-F (rom) plasma type F
pl-E (gor)  plasma torpedoe
pl-X (isc)   plasma I-XII
pl-D (gor) defensive plasma
pl-I  (isc)   plasma I-D-VI

esg (lyr)  sphere shield
esg-l (lyr) plasmabeam Mk.II

fus (hyd)  fusionbeam type 2
hellb (hyd) hellbore type 5

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sugestion for other races

tholian: primary: disruptor-4(pulse cannon)
heavy:hellbore (netgun) - needs a different hellbore texture

andromedan: primary ph2
heavy: trb

tng:

fed: phaser 1, phaser x, phaser 2 , photons, heavy photons(quantums) , disruptor 4 (pulse phaser)

klingons: disruptors , heavy photons ,heavy disruptors

romulans : heavy disruptors, plasma f,g,s,r

species 8472: mauler and 127 battery (ouch!)

borg: ppd (cutting beam) ,phaser A ,plasma R ,maybe trb (other texture needed)

breen: phaser A , plasma E

jemhadar: phaser 4 , plasma X

cardassians : fusions, plasma E , photons , heavy photons

monsers : esg




greatings,


ed


 
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on March 05, 2004, 12:02:42 am
Hmmm

Integrated a few things into the list.
For one Son'a were added
The Particle Cannons for the Tholians were added
Bio-Pulse cannon for Species 8472 (but i still need a heavy weapon)
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: MajorRacal on March 05, 2004, 03:17:23 pm
Did you not see what those could do?  Do Species 8472 need a Heavy too?  
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on March 05, 2004, 03:34:06 pm
Well...that planet cracker beam is kinda like a Mega-Heavy weapon...and a Bio-pulse cannon is their Phaser equivilent...
so somethihg needs to take a middleground.
Title: Re: Weapon Types in peoples Private trek Universes?
Post by: ganymad on March 05, 2004, 10:11:46 pm
i dont think they have something like torpedoes.so id stay with heavy hiting beams like fusions , esg lances,phaser g2 or ph4. but i dont have an idea for a name for that weapon. maybe call it  shieldripper?

greatings,



ed