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Title: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: olbuzzard on March 07, 2004, 04:04:37 pm
I thought it might be more appropriate to post this on a seperate thread....  ( deflector dish for the Advanced Light Cruiser  aka X-CLC ).  The basic idea is there .  It is just a tad thinner ...   wider ...  but also lacks a little something in style to prevent it from looking too much like a "box" stuck up there.  Also the torp tubes are on either side of the deflector as well.  Any in put  ( particularly some of those sketches you are famous for Azel ...  would be appreciated.


 
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: DonKarnage on March 07, 2004, 04:37:00 pm
its look weird like that.
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: olbuzzard on March 07, 2004, 04:52:08 pm
hmmmmm   ok  ....   though I might dissagree ..   could you be a bit more specfic ...  just curious??  If it is better to leave it off  I could understand if the reasoning is sound enough.
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Azel on March 07, 2004, 04:56:29 pm
That Idea rocks!!!
we definately have to utilize this  
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: olbuzzard on March 07, 2004, 05:03:32 pm
hey bud...  do you have any ideas  on how to reshape some of the lines I particularly the views as already mentioned...   to bring the design up to TNG ..  late TNG specs ??  I can do the Photo shop thing perhaps and see what happens ??


Just a thought !
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Azel on March 07, 2004, 06:58:56 pm
 
Quote:

 hey bud... do you have any ideas on how to reshape some of the lines I particularly the views as already mentioned... to bring the design up to TNG .. late TNG specs ?? I can do the Photo shop thing perhaps and see what happens ??
 


Easy just use a galaxy-class secondary hull and just reshape it...take out all the windows and scale it down
to act like a pod  
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 08, 2004, 03:12:57 am
Oldbuzzard Sir, I have 2 ideas for your advanced design.First let me say I like your idea of placing the deflector in the weapon pod.
Now first off is my idea for the ship design.....
 X-CLC
 
 
 
 X-HDW
 
 

Just use your modified pod and swap out the narcells

Or secondly I don't know if you viewed another thread I had but here was another solution for where to place deflectors on CL's and DD's.......
 
Anyway those were my suggestions.I thought they were interesting and I enjoy sharing them with the community.Perhaps it will give you or someone else ideas.
  -MP
 ModelsPlease@aol.com


 
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Terradyhne on March 08, 2004, 07:42:00 am
if you would use that weapon pod on an Miranda variant than there is no need to have a deflector in the weaponspod because the miranda class ships and the most of their variants have two deflectors at the top of the saucer part
the pic should show what i mean:
 

i like more the idea for deflectors like they are at the Maxwell class strike cruiser, 2 smal forward deflector at the bottom of the saucer
the pic is not the best but will show a bit what i mean:
 

and here are some pics of deflector and photon pod variant that i have added to some of my excelsior selfdesigns  
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 10, 2004, 02:28:01 am
BUMP back to page one ya go    
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2004, 02:44:11 am
So models please you were looking for something like this?

 

If so you need to do some ground work to see if he is willing to let his work go into SFC. If he approves I will finish the Texture Problems on it and release it otherwise it will get fixed and go in my personal libary, no ands, buts or ifs. So this one I leave in your hands to get his premission and PM his E-mail to me.
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 11, 2004, 03:04:52 am
Sir that is beautiful,I am in awe !!!! I'm on it and I'll send his response PM. WOW you have made my day  
 
-MP  
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2004, 03:08:43 am
I did this in a parts formate, ie saved all the parts into seperate files for quicker kitbashing. I have the parts available to do the other one as well, but it will have to wait for the weekend before I can make it.
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 11, 2004, 04:08:02 am
Quote:

I did this in a parts formate, ie saved all the parts into seperate files for quicker kitbashing. I have the parts available to do the other one as well, but it will have to wait for the weekend before I can make it.  



Outstanding indeed !!!!!!! Holy cow both ships . I tried to email the modeller via the link on the page where I found the ship, but it wasn't a valid email,so I emailed the owner of the website and he sent me another email address so the request is on the way.Hopefully we shall here something in the next few days.  
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Azel on March 11, 2004, 08:07:23 am
Man that Rocks!!!!
But the interconnecting Dorsal should be swept forward not back
could you make a version with that slight correction???
   
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2004, 01:21:57 pm
Yeap.

I noticed that last night as well, but was to tired to do anything about it. I think I will do another version with the the corrections but keep this one as well. Since the parts are modular it should not be to hard to fix. Then I have all the texture adjustments to do which will be the longer part.
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Azel on March 11, 2004, 05:07:52 pm
 
Quote:

Yeap.

I noticed that last night as well, but was to tired to do anything about it. I think I will do another version with the the corrections but keep this one as well. Since the parts are modular it should not be to hard to fix. Then I have all the texture adjustments to do which will be the longer part.  


Thanks  
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 11, 2004, 06:10:49 pm
Quote:

So models please you were looking for something like this?

 

If so you need to do some ground work to see if he is willing to let his work go into SFC. If he approves I will finish the Texture Problems on it and release it otherwise it will get fixed and go in my personal libary, no ands, buts or ifs. So this one I leave in your hands to get his premission and PM his E-mail to me.  



Captain Ron Sir,permission has been granted for all his ships.Check you PM for a copy of the E-mail.Again my total thanks to you for creating these ships.Mr Giunta is excited as well.I so look forward to these release's
 
-MP  
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: starforce2 on March 11, 2004, 06:29:02 pm
captain ron, where'd u get that miranda variant?


Now the signle nacelle  destroyer looks neat too. As do all the excelciors,  just need to get them made from some decent excelciors though, those multi-sided saucers look horrid. Look like armada models from the old battlestation days ugh..lol. But I'm sure seraph can do them. He's the excelcior queen right now
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2004, 06:51:46 pm
Which Variant? (have quite a few now)

If you are talking about the one in the above pic I made it by removing things I did not need off of a P81 Miranda. Select Delete is not to hard to fingure out, select hide or select delete and you pretty much get what you want out of the deal. I finished up the textures (except Registries, will do thouoghs tonight) and just have to add HPs and DPs to the lower section, which will take longer as i have to figure those out as I go. After those three items are done, and thanks to models please for hunting down the premissions, I will release the ships both of them (the correct one and the variant) in the same zip.

No WIPs currently, after finishing the adjustments I got lazy, why the registries will be done later as well. Only good news of this is the thinking of what to name them and hull numbers are already done by the orginal modeller (saves me time thinking, which is always bad)

-GAFY?
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 11, 2004, 07:26:54 pm
It was my pleasure to assist Captain Ron sir. I'm just jazzed this all came together and if I read your last post correctly there will be (3) Count 'em 3 ships being released.The 2 Miranda's and the single narcell destroyer version.WOW.Oh and if you need a name and number for the second Miranda varient. May I suggest  USS Paul Winfield    NCC 1942 Or NCC 2004   But I guess that depends on which of those 2 registries are available.
-MP  
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: starforce2 on March 11, 2004, 10:26:54 pm
the one you  said he needed  permission for. I assume the kitbash came from another source outside of sfc from your post which is why I asked.
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Captain Ron on March 11, 2004, 11:18:13 pm
The Pic was posted by ModelsPlease, I did the kitbash mostly to see if i could do it. He liked it and wanted it so I had him hunt the guy who made it down, after all he had been to the site the pic was from. He got the premission and copied me the E-mail as requestes. All that is left now is the HP and DP ares to be added and 2 of the three will be out the thrid will be out after that. I probably will not start on it until the others are done.
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Captain Ron on March 12, 2004, 03:53:34 am
Ok the First one is done and Complete, I will HP and DP the other one tomorrow and then upload the file, and post the screen shots. I tested it last night and all went well Appearently you can not make Hardpoints or Damage points in Milkshape but you can movethem around.
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Captain Ron on March 12, 2004, 05:37:30 pm
 

Well here is the First one and can be found at the TCS site. There are two ships in the file One is the orginal by Phil and the other is the sweep version by me.

-enjoy!
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: Captain Ron on March 12, 2004, 07:07:46 pm
and incase you missed it as this one hit page 2 awefully fast

the linl:


 U.S.S. Aysgarth  
Title: Re: AZEL .... and others too
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 12, 2004, 07:31:57 pm
Captain Ron sir you totally ROCK !!!!
thank you,thank you,thank you,thank you
 
Oh man I'll bet the DD's gonna kick ass too !!!!
-MP