Post by: Khalee on May 11, 2004, 01:02:10 pm
Post by: Kaenyne on May 11, 2004, 01:08:18 pm
Post by: Chrystoff on May 11, 2004, 01:49:07 pm
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In the first movie Han said he outran the big Emperial ships and not the local bulk cruisers. What are they? a generic police type ship or something. Has any picture or drawing ever been shone. Dont know why Im thinking about it now but I am.
This may help: http://www.galacticempiredatabank.com/BulkCruiser.html
Post by: Praxis on May 11, 2004, 03:37:23 pm
That whole sentence is a synonym for "crap".
Post by: Chrystoff on May 11, 2004, 04:37:05 pm
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Basicly, slow, fat, and ugly (like a hutt), packing a lot of tiny and pathetic fighter-grade guns and no heavy weaponry.
That whole sentence is a synonym for "crap".
Exactly! But, they would be a heckof a lot of fun to shoot at...
Post by: manitoba on May 11, 2004, 05:14:09 pm
Post by: Praxis on May 11, 2004, 05:16:40 pm
Your tiny laser cannons are tickling my Star Destroyer!
Post by: Khalee on May 11, 2004, 05:25:02 pm
And Dont even try and turn it into another star wars, star trek debate or ill ask for this thread to be deleted Im just curious is all.
Post by: Praxis on May 11, 2004, 06:49:08 pm
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So in SFB turms they are equal to what. The early unrefited cruisers, fed old light cruiser, klink D6 and or D4, Kizinti CS. lyran Light cruiser maybe.
And Dont even try and turn it into another star wars, star trek debate or ill ask for this thread to be deleted Im just curious is all.
If it was a Star Trek ship i'd be about equivilant to a freighter w/ 5 phaser 3's...
If it was taken to the Star Trek universe from Star Wars, by the canon ICS, a fighter laser canon is 1 kiloton, the quad. It has 30 quad laser canons. 30 x 4 = 120, so its total firepower would be 120 kilotons.
The point defense laser cannons are 8 kilotons, which would make the total firepower 960 kilotons if thats the type.
It's most likely the capital-ship laser cannons that are more powerful than the fighter ones, but far inferior to the heavy turbolasers. Those have total firepower of 6 megatons per shot.
At 6 megatons per shot, it gives the ship a total firepower of 720 megatons.
A photon torpedo has a maximum yield of 64 megatons, which means depending on which type of laser cannons you think it uses, it either:
has less total firepower than a single photon torpedo
or
has equivilant firepower to 11 photon torpedos
Either way, its weapons are very shot range (designed for point defense vs fighters), it's slow and fat and easy to hit, can't hit from very far, and will probably die very, very fast with bombardment from a Sovereign. (Star Trek canon, a quantum torpedo is 3x the power of a photon torpedo, so one volley of JUST the Enterprise-E's forward quantums would easily overwhelm it if you take the high estimate, and if you take the low estimate a single phaser blast should about match the ships firepower)
There you go, a quick and concise answer that shouldn't spark a trek vs wars debate (might start debate to whether it uses the capital ship laser cannons or the tiny fighter ones), and uses information on weapons strength straight from the Star Trek and Star Wars tech manuals.
Post by: Khalee on May 11, 2004, 07:03:15 pm
Post by: manitoba on May 11, 2004, 07:37:20 pm
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they r fun. to shoot at and play with. i played star wars rebellion. its a good game.
this is how i would give an idea of things
rebel federation imperial
medium transport small cargo ship galleon
bulk transport heavy cargo ship star galleon
corellian corvette frigate assault transport
corellian gunship heavy frigate
bulk cruiser light destroyer strike cruiser
nebulon b frigate destroyer escort carrier
alliance carrier light cruiser interdictor class
liberator cruiser medium cruiser imperial dreadnaught
alliance dreadnaught heavy cruiser victory star destroyer
dauntlass cruiser dreadnaught victory star destroyer 2
assault frigate dreadnaught star destroyer
mon calamari cruiser light battleship star destroyer 2
bulwark battlecruiser battleship super star destroyer
or something along those lines
Post by: Reverend on May 11, 2004, 11:15:25 pm
Post by: SovereignEmpire on May 13, 2004, 04:55:18 pm
Post by: Praxis on May 13, 2004, 05:19:00 pm
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And since the Quantums have Zero-Point Technology, 100% of the blast would impact into the ship and shields.
All correct except that.
(of course, any ship can outmaneuver and outgun that peice of junk...it's practically a freighter for crying out loud)
Zero-point technology = pulling energy out of vacuum, a way to explain how a quantum torpedo can do 3x the damage despite being the same size. When the torpedo hits, the explosion is spherical, so at most only half of the damage will actually hit.
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=663
An actual article about the possibility of the existance of zero-point energy in real life.
Post by: Sandman3D on May 14, 2004, 09:35:04 am
Post by: InragedSith on May 14, 2004, 09:42:12 am
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