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Title: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Hellions
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 07, 2004, 08:05:27 pm
This is a project that i forgot about a long time ago that Azel asked me to texture.
Now i cannot for the life of me remember how he wanted me to texture it so i just decided "why not just go with what i feel is right" and im sure he'll yell at me about it, lol.

First off, let me say that these are a people who fight against the Hellions. I cannot remember the name of the race, but im sure Azel can fill in my blank spots.

First is the Angelos
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/4159/Angelos.jpg)

The next is the Ophan
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/3531/Seraph.jpg)

The last is my own design, kitbashed from the other two.
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/28/Cherub.jpg)

When these are released i will include the PSD's and font files that i used to create them so you can make custom insginias on the face and body

Azel and others: i need more design ideas. I would like to flesh out the fleet of this...Give me ideas and i can kitbash them.
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 07, 2004, 08:14:33 pm
Just so everyone knows im working on more ornate textures for the body.
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Hellions
Post by: Dizzy on September 07, 2004, 08:26:29 pm
Fury, Azel's Hellions have too many polys. Was it you , Destiny Nova or someone else that spoke of a modeling program that had a poly reducer? His Hellions with so many polys would bog down all but the latest rigs. If someone had that program, could not his hellions be more... simplified in the poly dept.?
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 07, 2004, 08:27:22 pm
See?

(http://img85.exs.cx/img85/4159/Angelos.jpg)
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 07, 2004, 08:29:09 pm
i CAN run Azels hellions through an optimize, im just really lazy, lol.

ill see what i can do, given azels permission
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Hellions
Post by: Dizzy on September 07, 2004, 10:07:46 pm
an optimizer would reduce polyies?

We need to can HALF of them, lol!
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 08, 2004, 01:57:18 pm
Uh, i doubt im gonna be able to half them, but ill pull what i can.

Anyways, back to topic please.
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Hellions
Post by: Azel on September 08, 2004, 03:21:12 pm
WOW!!!
Awesome stuff...Now I will have to make more
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 10, 2004, 02:59:53 pm
so does anyone else like these?
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Hellions
Post by: Dizzy on September 10, 2004, 03:59:40 pm
I'm not in love with them... ;)
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: Mackie on September 10, 2004, 10:00:22 pm
for some reason i think they would look really cool with some clear white / light blue / blue crystalline like textures....  I think ive got one of those models so im gonna try texturing them that way :)
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 13, 2004, 09:03:55 pm
Okay guys, here is an update...

First off, let me tell you that these are renders in 3ds Max...The halo will not be on the SFC model due to a lack of Transparency support (i know SFC3 can handle it, but not well enough to make me happy.)

Just to let you know that the Halo does contain the letters WHAYE in angelic script (to spell 'Yahweh' which is the name of the lord) but are out of order - which was actually an accident and im too lazy to go back and fix it.

Now atolm and I have been back and forth on these guys for ages.. I have tried adding stainglass windows to it for a cathedral look, but it hasnt worked well enough for me. He feels more details are needed, and i desperately await his texture modifications.

(http://img90.exs.cx/img90/4159/Angelos.jpg)
(http://img90.exs.cx/img90/964/Angelos2.jpg)
(http://img90.exs.cx/img90/7442/Angelos3.jpg)

Alright guys, now i need your help...On the neck i am looking for a certain layered effect, and i dunno if i have it done well enough...First im gonna show you a crude cross section of what i mean.

(http://img43.exs.cx/img43/5524/Cross.jpg)

The section on the left indicates the area of hull closest to the face. (part 1 on the image)
the Middle is the copper-tone ribs. (Part 2 of the image)
and the right is the rest of the neck. (Part 3 on the image)

(http://img43.exs.cx/img43/8269/Angelos4.jpg)

Now what i am looking for is an effect to make it seem like Parts 1 and 3 overlap the Part 2...
Not only that, but i need to know if it looks like there is a light source (indicated by A) underneath part 1 that is shining onto part 2.
Also, does the shadow (indicated by B) look real enough to make it seem that Part 3 is overlapping Part 2.
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Hellions
Post by: Reverend on September 13, 2004, 10:51:45 pm
This is completely fascinating.... I can't say anymore without sounding stupid.....

Azel... I know you said you won't redo them.. but... can the Hellions get this sort of halo-thing going on as well? I always loved them as well, enough to attempt to write a biography on them...

what a great thread...
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 13, 2004, 11:05:32 pm
Heck ive changed the focus of my planned web-comic around the hellions and the Choir...

The fight between heaven and hell in sci-fi.
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: FoaS_XC on September 16, 2004, 09:09:54 am
So does everyone think ive achieved that Layered look well enough?
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Helli
Post by: Kaenyne on September 16, 2004, 09:14:40 am
Lemme put it to ya this way: You'll be getting no complaints from me.   :D
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Hellions
Post by: wulf111 on September 17, 2004, 04:29:23 pm
now that i have been working with them they have really grown on me
Title: Re: A lost project on my harddrive renewed: Defenders of Faith, Enemies of Hellions
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 11, 2004, 08:39:09 am
Bump for an update please