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Title: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 12, 2004, 06:39:15 pm
This is even SFB cannon, a Romulan Civl war broke out shortly after the General War.  Most of the battles involved X-Squadrons with the Kestrals on one side and the Hawks on the other.

This could also be a good way to give Romulan Plasma fighters a shakedown in a low-pressure enviroment.

Would this fly?
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Green on September 12, 2004, 07:00:28 pm
No idea.  But I'd fly it.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Hexx on September 12, 2004, 07:13:46 pm
Klinks... Feds... Now Roms...

It's good to know the Lyrans have such a stable government.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: likkerpig on September 12, 2004, 07:14:42 pm
Klinks... Feds... Now Roms...

It's good to know the Lyrans have such a stable government.

What, all two of us?
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: KAT Chuut-Ritt on September 12, 2004, 07:15:42 pm
Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Sirgod on September 12, 2004, 07:18:50 pm
Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

Doesn't matter as long as A Romie Dies.  :o ;D :o

Stephen
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 12, 2004, 07:53:00 pm
Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

And how is this a problem?   ;D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: KAT Chuut-Ritt on September 12, 2004, 07:55:46 pm
Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

And how is this a problem?   ;D

well if thats too short for you try it at gamespeed 5...... ;D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-Tobin Dax on September 12, 2004, 07:57:14 pm
matches could be longer if both sides decide to cloak and wait to see who blinks first.   ;D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Green on September 12, 2004, 08:13:57 pm
Mother says "everytime a rommie dies, an angel gets his wings"
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Ronin on September 12, 2004, 09:00:55 pm
I would fly in this. Keep me posted.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Firehawk on September 12, 2004, 09:05:55 pm
You've got my attention.  I would fly on it.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 12, 2004, 09:46:55 pm
Give Chutt a Superhawk-B   ;D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: madelf on September 12, 2004, 11:14:38 pm
Now, it could be fun, but the 2+ hour plasma ballets would kill it, in my oponion.  Not to mention the new OP cloak, which could make finishing nigh impossible. 

One thought I had, was IF the source code ever gets out for us, and we could implement plasma bolting, that might make the PvP a ton more tolerable.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: GDA-Agave on September 12, 2004, 11:17:02 pm
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Karnak's in a BCF.  Oh, bring it on Frogboy.

Hey DH, why does this phrase sounds so familiar.   I seem to think that I might just have said this in the 2v2 PvP mission where Dizzy and I died in GW3.    Is that where you got it?   Or am I just paranoid?   Or are you really out to get me?


Agave
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Commander Maxillius on September 12, 2004, 11:56:28 pm
Count me in, Die Hard, and if it's an OoB, put me in a King Eagle.


ph34r teh Eagles!!!


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Ronin on September 13, 2004, 01:26:07 am
Now, it could be fun, but the 2+ hour plasma ballets would kill it, in my oponion.  Not to mention the new OP cloak, which could make finishing nigh impossible. 

One thought I had, was IF the source code ever gets out for us, and we could implement plasma bolting, that might make the PvP a ton more tolerable.

I realize it is not "the" answer to this problem of games that take forever, but there are a few boats with the mauler. One in particular is a favorite of mine. Just a thought.

Respects...
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: madelf on September 13, 2004, 01:29:14 am
I think it would be fun if Every romulan ship had a mauler.   ;) 
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: alfman on September 13, 2004, 01:58:06 am
Nah just make everone fly a R-FAL (no +). Just a mauler with enginse! Alternately make everone start in a Snipe A. Klingons will be wishing they had there F5's back.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Cleaven on September 13, 2004, 02:33:10 am
Klinks... Feds... Now Roms...

It's good to know the Lyrans have such a stable government.

Well actually they were in a permanent state of internal war as is seen in most militaristic monarchies. The combat is not necessarily open all the time but the term Lyran Civil War would in fact be redundant.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Father Ted on September 13, 2004, 05:46:47 am
Actually, Jeff and I were talking about this a few weeks ago. I'd finally have a real excuse to fly Rommie. ;)
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 13, 2004, 07:41:09 am
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Karnak's in a BCF.  Oh, bring it on Frogboy.

Hey DH, why does this phrase sounds so familiar.   I seem to think that I might just have said this in the 2v2 PvP mission where Dizzy and I died in GW3.    Is that where you got it?   Or am I just paranoid?   Or are you really out to get me?


Agave

Dizzy said that.   I figured it was ironic . . .
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: WarSears on September 13, 2004, 08:44:44 am
I would play  :)
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Dizzy on September 13, 2004, 08:55:14 am
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Karnak's in a BCF.  Oh, bring it on Frogboy.

Hey DH, why does this phrase sounds so familiar.   I seem to think that I might just have said this in the 2v2 PvP mission where Dizzy and I died in GW3.    Is that where you got it?   Or am I just paranoid?   Or are you really out to get me?


Agave

Dizzy said that.   I figured it was ironic . . .

Well, I didnt figure he'd bring on a DNH. ;)
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Vorcha on September 13, 2004, 07:33:08 pm
Blazinbud and I would fly it in a heartbeat.

V
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: 762_XC on September 13, 2004, 07:41:41 pm
What Chuut said. Plas vs Plas gets old fast.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Mazeppa on September 13, 2004, 08:01:21 pm
Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

And how is this a problem?   ;D

I'm with DH on this one. 

At the beginning of a server, I get into a droner because I feel I HAVE to, to keep my team competitive, and farm PP.  But if we were ALL plasma chuckers....We could focus on the game.

There would need to be some sort of bonus for PvP that would greatly compensate for a two hour battle, both in PP and VC's, but I actually look forward to a long plasma duel.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: benbean on September 14, 2004, 05:55:38 am
Where's the sign-ups?

:D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: KBF-Soth on September 14, 2004, 12:36:37 pm
I'd be up for this,hell I'd be up for a civil war with all with any of the races.What better way could one learn and get used to flying the different races?
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 14, 2004, 12:51:59 pm
Here's what I'm thinking so far . . .

- Two sides, imperial and republican factions (I'll look up the real names from X1 when I get home). 

- Kestrals and Eagles and one side, Hawks on the other.   This accurately represents the fleet layouyts from the SFB history.  I'm thinking uses the Klingons UI for the faction with the Kestrals?

- Full Draft, I'll need some hardcore Romulans to Lead the houses.

- Plasma-fighters and PFs for both sides.  What better way to test them out then on a server where both sides have the same cheese?

- Modded X-ships.  The SFB Romulan Civil War involved X-Squadron engagements.   SGODev is working on some modification of the OP+ X-ships so they play nicer with the GW-era vessels and there capabilties are closer to their SFB counterparts.  I'm thinking use these as the OOB ships instead of DNs?

- Destructable bases   ;D , planets will be the "ground" that is fought over.

- One-ship-per-pilot is 90% likely

- 5000 starting PP and decent starting ships so you can jump right in the action.

- 2-3 Week run, let us see if KCW drags at 3 weeks or not.

Known issues:

- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.

Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: KBF-Dogmatix_XC on September 14, 2004, 01:26:59 pm
I absolutely enjoy flying Romulan, so any excuse that comes along to do so is cool by me.



Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Kroma BaSyl on September 14, 2004, 03:21:54 pm


- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.



Sure there is, no one gets the Romulan interface.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 14, 2004, 05:10:38 pm


- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.



Sure there is, no one gets the Romulan interface.

That could work to, so what UIs?  Kliink and Lyran?
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Firehawk on September 14, 2004, 05:15:03 pm


- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.



Sure there is, no one gets the Romulan interface.

That could work to, so what UIs?  Kliink and Lyran?


I would go with Lyran and Gorn that way both would have the pf's without having to use a donor race.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 14, 2004, 05:19:33 pm


- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.



Sure there is, no one gets the Romulan interface.

That could work to, so what UIs?  Kliink and Lyran?


I would go with Lyran and Gorn that way both would have the pf's without having to use a donor race.

Um, Lyran and Gorn, could the map get any more confusing?    ;D

Donor race is no big deal, I've done It before. 
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Firehawk on September 14, 2004, 05:24:04 pm
True wasn't thinking of the colors :)  Many a time I strayed into LDR space by mistake on GW2.

I was just thinking that if you use either 2 pf races or now that I think about it 2 fighter races then you would only need 1 donor race instead of 2.  Just thinking about trying to keep things as simple as possible for those setting it up it.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Corbomite on September 14, 2004, 05:31:05 pm
Gorn and Fed would probably work best, but with no NSM count me out. They are just not Rommies w/o them.  :P


Another solution would be to give the Rom interface to one side and give the other side something in return for the loss of the NSM. More T-Bomb capacity or something like that.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 14, 2004, 05:38:31 pm

Another solution would be to give the Rom interface to one side and give the other side something in return for the loss of the NSM. More T-Bomb capacity or something like that.

That's the kind of Idea I'm trolling for.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Hexx on September 14, 2004, 05:46:05 pm
It would probably seem way to ott,and deosn't mesh for SFB purists but what about having one side get NSMs and the other get
say Dizzies replacing Plasma F torps?
Or give them a higher shuttle launch rate.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 14, 2004, 05:51:49 pm
It would probably seem way to ott,and deosn't mesh for SFB purists but what about having one side get NSMs and the other get
say Dizzies replacing Plasma F torps?
Or give them a higher shuttle launch rate.

A little too "modded," but an extra Shuttle seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Firehawk on September 14, 2004, 06:47:36 pm
There is a work around for the NSM.  You make the entire romulan race a donor race for the 2 races that you choose to use.  The carriers that are donated from another race still won't have them but this way line ships and pf tenders would still have NSM's
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 14, 2004, 07:25:07 pm
There is a work around for the NSM.  You make the entire romulan race a donor race for the 2 races that you choose to use.  The carriers that are donated from another race still won't have them but this way line ships and pf tenders would still have NSM's

Romulans as donors. . . .   I have to try that.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Firehawk on September 14, 2004, 07:27:53 pm
It worked on the limited test I did.  I just took the KRCS and donated it to both the Klingon and Federation.   Both were able to drop an NSM.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 14, 2004, 07:28:54 pm
Well, that's one problem solved  ;D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Firehawk on September 14, 2004, 07:30:02 pm
Well, that's one problem solved  ;D

I figured if you can donate fighters and pf's then why can't you donate NSM also  ;D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 14, 2004, 07:30:53 pm
You can Donate Engine Doubling as well.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: RazalYllib on September 14, 2004, 08:03:17 pm
Sounds interesting at this point, IRIS would of course be involved. The 2 active members, perhaps I could lure our missing reserve member away from NWN long enough to gain his interest, it is for the good of the empire.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Commander Maxillius on September 14, 2004, 08:45:45 pm
Any thing but the Klingon interface, PLEEEEASE!!!  :smackhead: :smackhead: :smackhead: :smackhead: :smackhead:


Why not the Hydran or ISC interfaces?  A donor's going to be used anyway....
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Hexx on September 14, 2004, 09:25:26 pm
Because we haven't had the Lyran interface in like forever!

I miss it.

Should have been used for KCW <grumble>
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on September 15, 2004, 09:38:58 am
It worked on the limited test I did.  I just took the KRCS and donated it to both the Klingon and Federation.   Both were able to drop an NSM.





'Scuse me while I press this button.

(http://www.newleaf-dist.com/b2c/images/0740738763.jpg)

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 15, 2004, 10:11:35 am
Red Versus Blue?  Red for kestrals, blue for Hawks?
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Corbomite on September 15, 2004, 10:29:08 am
DH you do realize this leaves the Kestrel side with no CL's to speak of right? In fact, the whole Kestrel side is in dire need of ships.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Strafer on September 15, 2004, 11:00:43 am
If it's Kestrels and Eagles vs Hawks, it should balance out AFAICT. Is there an era in particular that comes to mind?
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 15, 2004, 11:08:03 am
If it's Kestrels and Eagles vs Hawks, it should balance out AFAICT. Is there an era in particular that comes to mind?

It would be late Era, same starting year as the SFB Romulan Civil War.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on September 15, 2004, 11:15:10 am
Red Versus Blue?  Red for kestrals, blue for Hawks?

Taking Rom out of the choice, the easiest to see UIs are (in descending order)

Gorn (but I'm biased )
ISC
Lyran
Fed

Then, in the getting harder category,
Gorn (when I'm feeling honest)
Hydran
Klingon
<a few more ought to fit here>
(God save us!) Mirak


I'd choose between ISC, Lyran, and Fed.  I'd lean towards ISC and Fed, just to make the distinction on the map more stark.

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Green on September 15, 2004, 06:30:06 pm
Red Versus Blue?  Red for kestrals, blue for Hawks?

Taking Rom out of the choice, the easiest to see UIs are (in descending order)

Gorn (but I'm biased )
ISC
Lyran
Fed

Then, in the getting harder category,
Gorn (when I'm feeling honest)
Hydran
Klingon
<a few more ought to fit here>
(God save us!) Mirak


I'd choose between ISC, Lyran, and Fed.  I'd lean towards ISC and Fed, just to make the distinction on the map more stark.

-S'Cipio

The Mirak have the best UI in the game.  You simply don't know what art is Mr "soon-to-be-a-nice-set-of-shoes" Scipio.

(got to agree, the Fed/Lyran would be very distinctive.  If you want three races, then F/I/L would probably work best)
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: KAT Chuut-Ritt on September 15, 2004, 11:11:11 pm
ISC wouldn't be bad except for the sounds involved,

Gorn, Hydran, and Klingon are so dim like the lights are flickering and about to go out.  Then again with races that are so damn ugly to look at I can't blame the designers for that.... ;D

Lyran and Fed are not bad by any account.

Mirak has the best sounds, and colors that are easy on the eyes (hence the Kzin nutters are able to stay on so long)

I like Rom alot too but it has been excluded.
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 16, 2004, 11:05:58 am
I would like the 2 races to be fighter races since I will be including carriers and Plasma fighters so Lyran is out.  it is just much easier this way that it is to have a double donor setup (one for PFs and NSM, one for fighters).

Something about Red versus Blue just seems so, right!   ;D
Title: Re: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?
Post by: Commander Maxillius on September 16, 2004, 11:43:55 am
I would like the 2 races to be fighter races since I will be including carriers and Plasma fighters so Lyran is out.  it is just much easier this way that it is to have a double donor setup (one for PFs and NSM, one for fighters).

Something about Red versus Blue just seems so, right!   ;D

dork!  :P