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Taldrenites => General Starfleet Command Forum => Topic started by: Dash Jones on November 10, 2004, 09:04:02 pm
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Blame me, I'm a rabid Games Workshop personage, and though these have been passed along to Specialist Games, I've been looking at BattleFleet Gothic recently. No models, but they made it much easier for the curious by putting out the rules for free...
It's another starship game, similar and yet VERY different than SFB. Just wondering if any of you other SFBers have tried it and what you thought of the system before I start really looking into it and investing?
Here are the rules (This IS a REAL and Published system, the company has nicely put the rules online for FREE, I don't know for how long though...)
http://www.specialist-games.com/battlefleetgothic/tlr.asp
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Meh. I'll give it a shot.
I'll Let you know what I think.
Merlin
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Though i'm not a SFB player I did get sucked into Games Workshop games as a youth several times. Frankly, if they made a video game out of *this* i'd snap it up about as quickly as it breathes to life.
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I played BFG ONCE... I liked it. It was simple and fun; faster than SFB to play by several decades and far easier to deal with in mechanics.
Only prob I came up on would be finding time to paint all the minis!
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It's another starship game, similar and yet VERY different than SFB. Just wondering if any of you other SFBers have tried it and what you thought of the system before I start really looking into it and investing?
I've tried it a few times. Bascially, they took the EPIC 40K rules set and converted them into a starship game. It works rather well and makes for a good beer and pretzels game.
It's a simple game you can grasp quickly, and you can knock off a biggish match in an afternoon. My big complaint with the game was that several of the the shiplists were IMO very unbalanced. Imperial vs. Chaos wasn't so bad. However, the Imperial ships so outclassed the Ork ships that it was hard to get a good game between the two.
Another game you can look at on this level of complexity is Full Thrust, along with its supplement More Thrust. This game uses a more Newtonian movement system where your ships keep moving until you fire thrusters to slow them down or turn them. Keeping your fleet in good formation is a bit of a game unto itself. Full Thrust also includes (and encourages) you to design your own ships from the ground up.
Here are the rules (This IS a REAL and Published system, the company has nicely put the rules online for FREE, I don't know for how long though...)
I suspect that the rules will be available online on a permanent basis. I think all of the spcialist games will be available online for free. (Epic Armageddon rules arei I know, though the rule book is worth buying anyway if you are into the game.) GW makes almost all of their money from miniature sales anyway, so they lose little by giving away the rules.
-S'Cipio
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Putting the SG rulebooks online is a handy way for GW not to have to bother doing anything much to push the specialist games themselves, rather relying on the gaming communities - such as the large, highly active and growing Epic online community which contributed - and contributes still - so much to the new generation of Epic, and now that SG will be subsumed into the Studio these groups will have to get used to even less from GW...
Anyway, BFG. Work abounds on version 2.0 (there MAY be changes to the gunnery rules, following the transformation firepower in Epic made from E40K to EpicA) and hopefully the end of SG as a separate entity won't see it stillborn....
I play Eldar, Necrons, Demiurg and Tau in BFG, and I am quite a fan of the game! Sadly my old gaming group has vanished in the year I was away in Canada, so I may end up having as much luck finding opponents here as I do for Federation and Empire...
Gary
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now that SG will be subsumed into the Studio
This was news I was very sad to hear. I thought that allowing Jervis and friends to step outside of the studio was what gave the Spcialist line its best chance at success. The specialist line is made up of games that always seemed to get lost in the studio's drive to push WH and WH40K.
Here's hoping for better luck this time around.
-S'Cipio
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You wouldn't happen to be a poster at the Epic boards with a similar signature line, by any chance...
Gary
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You wouldn't happen to be a poster at the Epic boards with a similar signature line, by any chance...
Gary
Ummm.... possibly. I post on the epic mailing lists as Allen McCarley, and was fortunate enough to be invited into Jervis' playtest group for Epic Armageddon.
Do we know each other? (That would be cool.)
-S'Cipio
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Nope, I thought you were Jaldon for a moment (he has a similar line about the crunchiness of bones in his sig...)
Gary