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Title: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC on January 30, 2005, 03:18:54 am
A planet assault on an ISC homeworld draws TWO Starbases, TWO defence platforms, TWO FRDs, and a fully armed planet.

Here are there stats:
I-PI1

Designation: I-PI1
BPV: 1004
Crew: 50
Marines: 40
Shield 1: 50
Shield 2 & 6: 50
Shield 3 & 5: 50
Shield 4: 50
Total Shields: 300

Movement Cost: 1
Turn Mode: H
Total Warp Power: 0
Impulse Power:
Aux Power: 80
Total Engine Power: 0
Battery: 10

Transporters: 6
Tractors:
Mech Tractors:
Shuttles: 6
Fighters:

3x Plasma S
56x Phaser 4
7x PPD

I-SB

Designation: I-SB
BPV: 582
Crew: 224
Marines: 50
Shield 1: 50
Shield 2 & 6: 50
Shield 3 & 5: 50
Shield 4: 50
Total Shields: 300

Movement Cost:
Turn Mode: G
Total Warp Power: 0
Impulse Power:
Aux Power: 117
Total Engine Power: 0
Battery: 44

Transporters: 22
Tractors: 18
Mech Tractors:
Shuttles: 12
Fighters:

24x Plasma G
8x Phaser 3
12x Phaser 4

I-DEF

BPV: 112
Crew: 0
Marines:
Shield 1: 12
Shield 2 & 6: 12
Shield 3 & 5: 12
Shield 4: 12
Total Shields: 72

Movement Cost:
Turn Mode: G
Total Warp Power: 0
Impulse Power:
Aux Power: 18
Total Engine Power: 0
Battery: 1

Transporters: 1
Tractors: 2
Mech Tractors: 2
Shuttles: 1
Fighters:

2x Plasma F
4x Phaser 1
4x Phaser 3
2x Phaser 4
1x PPD

Organia is a homeworld, with a max DV of 50 and gives the ISC far more VCs than any other planet. Is this someone's idea of a balanced server?? This mission is a joke.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Pestalence_XC on January 30, 2005, 03:41:26 am
Maybe get 4 to 6 allied players to assault it at once.. sounds like a server winner mission.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC on January 30, 2005, 03:54:38 am
At most, it would possibly only draft 3 allied players at once, and the mission must be done repeatedly. If you are lucky, you may get a different mission in the hex, but it has a max DV of 50, requiring as many missions. It isnt even the real ISC homeworld.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: KBFLordKrueg on January 30, 2005, 07:08:13 am
Yep, it's a Biatch, ain't it. Try running one in a droner... ;)
It's tough, but not unwinnable...
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: KAT Chuut-Ritt on January 30, 2005, 07:13:27 am
Yep, it's a Biatch, ain't it. Try running one in a droner... ;)
It's tough, but not unwinnable...

+1 Karma to you Krueg for being a better droner than Sears, he wouldn't have been able to do it..... ;D
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Corbomite on January 30, 2005, 08:55:29 am
I'm sorry we aren't losing space fast enough for you Tracey. Would you like me to Rotting Fur it down to a manageable level for you?
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: KBF-Crim on January 30, 2005, 09:11:13 am
Please keep the warfare on the gameboard....thank you. :police:
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Farfarer on January 30, 2005, 09:57:09 am
Don't you guys have a BATTLESHIP?
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Dizzy on January 30, 2005, 09:58:59 am
Don't you guys have a BATTLESHIP?

Yeah, Tracey has one, lol
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: SurveyCrew on January 30, 2005, 10:00:48 am
hmmm, and it seems the isc are at a map disadvantage and number disadvantage constantly. I dont think this is a joke, you talk about a balanced server? look at all the space we have lost and what may be next to be lost. As dizzy said the ISC have technological advantages. If you cant handle the heat go fly a patrol.
Nemo



 :carmen:
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC on January 30, 2005, 10:17:58 am
I make a post with valid criticisms and what do I get?? Funny how those hurling insults didnt even bother to address the actual issue but instead resort to snide remarks, thats real intelligence.
As Federation RM, I make a complaint about a mission. Now, ordinarily the server admin would address this issue. What does Dizzy have to say?? Nothing at all.
As a mere mortal, representing no one but myself, in my humble opinion, Dizzy, your server admin skills leave much to be desired.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Dizzy on January 30, 2005, 10:24:51 am
Well, Tracey, I'm doing the best I can. While you get to chomp at the bit and complain, at least you can get on the server and play more than me as I have my nose in server administration and maintenance far more than you know.

Let me just say, that in response to your complaint, which yes, I take seriously, it is a STOCK ED HW Assault. The ISC Planet is as armed as any HW planet. I didnt alter anything there. You can go and complain to Dave or write your own script as you are a mission scripter.

Now to address your concern, I can pull the homeworld assault. I need a majority ruling U get that, Ill pull it.

regards,
Diz
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Bonk on January 30, 2005, 10:27:52 am
Everybody keep cool, lets make the most of this. How can we make homeworld assaults better?  I find these NW planet assaults loooonnnggg and kinda boring too... I like Karnak's (much faster) but others find them too hard... There should be a happy medium of difficulty and length... not too short and easy, and not too long and difficult, I say 12-14 min 2 defenders and an installation or two is apporpriate for a planet assault. (we can also put lots of stuff in the mission but not require that it all be killed)
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC on January 30, 2005, 10:31:38 am
Thankyou for finally addressing the issue. I am not in favour of mid server changes, the mission is not bugged, so the mission can stay.

I have two objections to the mission:

1 - It was designed for a HOMEWORLD assault. It is not appearing on a homeworld, but on Organia.

2 - There are two starbases that appear in the mission, these starbases are NOT your average starbase, which the mission was designed for.

These are not scripting issues, and the mission itself is just fine. It is a shiplist issue and a map issue. Its one thing to beef up starbases because they are destructible, but now they are appearing in this mission as well, which they were not intended for. Does this make sense?
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Dizzy on January 30, 2005, 10:42:57 am
It was intentional Organia be a bitch to take.

But on another server with destructibel bases, a BATS would be more appropriate in a HW assault than SB's.

What would be nice is if there was a way the server admin could have a configurable mission where s/he could change the bases that appear in the planet assaults.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Kroma BaSyl on January 30, 2005, 11:58:54 am
Well, Tracey, I'm doing the best I can. While you get to chomp at the bit and complain, at least you can get on the server and play more than me as I have my nose in server administration and maintenance far more than you know.


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :flame:

What comes around goes around. I can't express enough how much joy these recent threads are bringing me.

XOXOXO,
Kroma

PS, BTW Diz, I think you are doing a great job with the server, and am having much fun on it.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Corbomite on January 30, 2005, 12:07:45 pm
It was intentional Organia be a bitch to take.


Yeah Tracey! You should be glad the Organians are allowing you to attack their planet at all. I mean, we all know what happened last time!
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Villa64 on January 30, 2005, 12:12:28 pm
Shouldnt the Organia mission make your controls too hot to touch?

Add a new meaning to 'hotkey'?

or Maybe nothing but opening up the comm panel and having a 'Kirk', moment?

Interaction with beings such as yourselves is disgusting, you know.

Villa
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Dizzy on January 30, 2005, 12:33:59 pm

PS, BTW Diz, I think you are doing a great job with the server, and am having much fun on it.

TY Kroma, and for what it's worth I did NOT know about the treaty when I engaged u and Joshua. Not that I cared when I confirmed it on the C boards tho. hehe. But I did like how I forced you 2 to the safety of the base... Quite comforting. :D

Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Corbomite on January 30, 2005, 12:37:38 pm
Only three negative Karma for having the utter gall to state my opinion? You wusses are slipping!
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Dizzy on January 30, 2005, 12:42:48 pm
Only three negative Karma for having the utter gall to state my opinion? You wusses are slipping!

I've gotten 4 in the past day or so from ungratefuls who dont know how much time I spend making sure they have fun, and listening to them bitch. hehe. Course the latter is fun too, not as much as playing tho/.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Kroma BaSyl on January 30, 2005, 12:44:15 pm


TY Kroma, and for what it's worth I did NOT know about the treaty when I engaged u and Joshua.



I know, I was really just giving you crap for the mere sake of it, and trying to goad the rest of the Alliance into breaking the treaty.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Kroma BaSyl on January 30, 2005, 12:48:13 pm
Only three negative Karma for having the utter gall to state my opinion? You wusses are slipping!

Can't even remember what your opinion was, but here is another negative karma for you in the spirit of the absolute value of karma being the only thing that really matters.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Dizzy on January 30, 2005, 12:48:30 pm


TY Kroma, and for what it's worth I did NOT know about the treaty when I engaged u and Joshua.



I know, I was really just giving you crap for the mere sake of it, and trying to goad the rest of the Alliance into breaking the treaty.

Damnit! You and me can be an asses sometimes, but we think alike. i was trying to do the same thing afterwards... Did you see how I deepstruck Earth? I shoulda deepstruck the Gorn HW too...
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on January 30, 2005, 12:51:48 pm
I make a post with valid criticisms and what do I get?? Funny how those hurling insults didnt even bother to address the actual issue but instead resort to snide remarks, thats real intelligence.

I think it was your last three sentences in that post that got you the ire; not the post itself.  It was a good question.

Quote
1 - It was designed for a HOMEWORLD assault. It is not appearing on a homeworld, but on Organia.

Well, in my opinion, Organia should be *harder* to capture than any homeworld.  It's Organia.    (And for DB purposes, I believe it technically is the ISC homeworld.  At least an earlier post stated that it had been set up that way.)

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on January 30, 2005, 12:55:08 pm
Damnit! You and me can be an asses sometimes, but we think alike. i was trying to do the same thing afterwards... Did you see how I deepstruck Earth? I shoulda deepstruck the Gorn HW too...


<taunt mode>
What's a DV or two on a planet that far behind the lines?  Especially to a little gnat like you?  I'd have just waived it off like any other gant hitting my windshield, and continued with the real war.  :P

But you are more than welcome to come and play behind enemy lines all you want.  You are much more fun to fight when you can't run away, streaming plasma, and yelling "I win!" over your shoulder.    :P  :P  :P
<taunt mode>

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Corbomite on January 30, 2005, 12:59:09 pm
Only three negative Karma for having the utter gall to state my opinion? You wusses are slipping!

Can't even remember what your opinion was, but here is another negative karma for you in the spirit of the absolute value of karma being the only thing that really matters.


I think your PPD envy is showing again.  :P
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on January 30, 2005, 01:04:08 pm
I'm sorry we aren't losing space fast enough for you Tracey. Would you like me to Rotting Fur it down to a manageable level for you?


Gee sir, would you?  I'd like that.

http://www.lukefisher.com/my-eye.wav

;)

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Kroma BaSyl on January 30, 2005, 01:10:11 pm
  You are much more fun to fight when you can't run away, streaming plasma, and yelling "I win!" over your shoulder.    :P  :P  :P




Damn, he beat me that way too.
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: Corbomite on January 30, 2005, 02:01:04 pm
I'm sorry we aren't losing space fast enough for you Tracey. Would you like me to Rotting Fur it down to a manageable level for you?


Gee sir, would you?  I'd like that.

[url]http://www.lukefisher.com/my-eye.wav[/url]

;)

-S'Cipio



Gee I don't know which is geekier - The fact that I know that clip is from Aliens or that you actually have it to post!  :P
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on January 30, 2005, 03:56:24 pm


Gee I don't know which is geekier - The fact that I know that clip is from Aliens or that you actually have it to post!  :P

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Maybe it is neither.  Maybe we aren't geeky.  Maybe it was just a really good movie that everyone remembers.  <looks at geek meter>

Nope, we're screwd.

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: KAT J'inn on January 30, 2005, 04:25:49 pm
<Gets out log and throws on fire>

Why I hear tell that Dizzy made the ISC twice as strong in the last download.  Gave them Uber PPD I hear.   It's just what I heard from someone.  I forget who.

 :popcorn:



Title: Re: Planet assault on an ISC homeworld is a joke
Post by: GDA-Agave on January 31, 2005, 02:24:38 am
Well, since I'm flying ISC this server, all I can say is............

http://www.southparkstudios.com/downloads/display_sound.php?snd=http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/sounds/101/101_moo.wav&snd_name=Moo%20moo%20moo...%20mooo%20moooo...%20moo