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Taldrenites => Dynaverse II Experiences => Topic started by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 02:08:38 pm

Title: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 02:08:38 pm
What the bejesus (when was the last time you heard that eh? -my word for the day)
is a "Temporal Elevator"? ((and by what is I mean what the heck does it do?)

As i continue my foray into creating the ultimate Andro Invasion server (while not actually haveing or
even having glimpsed at the Andro book) I think I might need to know

Also- is there an actual background fluf description of the Invasion years? I (kinda) remember reading one on
Operation Unity, but is there anything written about hte LDR's destruction for example?
Why they hit it? Or is it just the well written 'then the Andros destoyed the LDR"
There's a blurb in J2 abotu "one of the last ships to emerge from the LDR docks in those dark days" but
that's about it..
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Dizzy on September 22, 2005, 02:10:32 pm
It is so complicated I couldnt ever begin to describe it. But it is so textbook, pen and paper intensive, its right up your alley.  ;D
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 02:11:48 pm
It is so complicated I couldnt ever begin to describe it. But it is so textbook, pen and paper intensive, its right up your alley.  ;D

In otherwords you got killed by one ~so I should assume it's an exploit?  :P
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 02:19:05 pm
Oh -and another question- is there anyway to set up "secret" bases?

I know Bonk (by accident I think) managed to set up a planet/resupply point
for the Klinks that showed nothing in the hex,
A) would this be repeatable?
b) Could you do it with a pirate layer over the Empire layer?
ie (and i assume it's not but..) is it possible to set up say a "secret" Klingon base in fed space
The empire hex would have to be Fed of course- but is there anyway to make it so a Klink ship could resupply there?
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: KBF-Crim on September 22, 2005, 02:20:23 pm
It is so complicated I couldnt ever begin to describe it. But it is so textbook, pen and paper intensive, its right up your alley.  ;D

In otherwords you got killed by one ~so I should assume it's an exploit?  :P

OOF!

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Dizzy on September 22, 2005, 02:20:44 pm
I bought the module... It looks so... paper intensive... Uses fractional power.... its an impulse by impluse addition and subtraction thingy... I dunno how you could possibly keep the flow of an SFB match going using it.

Its better to PBE on that one. ;)

G/L! Oh, and there isnt anything in SFC or a script make up that I think could approximate it. Those SFB guys went out of their way on this one.
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 02:22:46 pm
I bought the module... It looks so... paper intensive... Uses fractional power.... its an impulse by impluse addition and subrtraction thingy... I dunno how you could possibly keep the flow of an SFB match going using it.

Its better to PBE on that one. ;)

G/L! Oh, and there isnt anything in SFC or a script make up that I think could approximate it. Those SFB guys went out of their way on this one.

Ah cool thanks,
from teh (very few) descriptions I have of it I had assumed it was some kind of base-movement/ecm thing.
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 22, 2005, 02:23:07 pm
Google is your friend

http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sfin/MRB_Update_B.pdf
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 02:24:14 pm
Google is your friend

[url]http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sfin/MRB_Update_B.pdf[/url]


Actually I just pay her for the sex..

EDIT Why does my head always hurt after trying to decipher SFB rules?
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: 762_XC on September 22, 2005, 02:50:23 pm
OMG, did you guys see this?

http://www.starfleetgames.com/fc/

SFB Lite
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 02:52:43 pm
"A crafty Klingon"
<snicker>

I'm sure there's also a "handsome Gorn"
"Sanitary Kzin"
'Straight Fed"
"confident Hydran"
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 22, 2005, 02:53:54 pm
"A crafty Klingon"
<snicker>

I'm sure there's also a "handsome Gorn"
"Sanitary Kzin"
'Straight Fed"
"confident Hydran"


"A tall Lyran" :P
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on September 22, 2005, 02:57:10 pm
In another thread, I suggested giving Andro bases the cloak instead of the temporal elevator.  I think that is about as close as you can come in SFC.

Basically, it's a time rift that the bases could create around themselves that made seeking weapons take longer to reach the base.  The bases moved themselves further away from you in time rather than in position.  The weapons would take several impulses to cross that last hex rather than just one, and plasmas would thus run themselves out without going anywhere.   Only, the rules make it a lot more complicated than that.  Those Andros were weird.

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 02:59:32 pm
In another thread, I suggested giving Andro bases the cloak instead of the temporal elevator.  I think that is about as close as you can come in SFC.

Basically, it's a time rift that the bases could create around themselves that made seeking weapons take longer to reach the base.  The bases moved themselves further away from you in time rather than in position.  The weapons would take several impulses to cross that last hex rather than just one, and plasmas would thus run themselves out without going anywhere.   Only, the rules make it a lot more complicated than that.  Those Andros were weird.

-S'Cipio

Sooo tehy could travel to other galaxies, and move stuff back and forth in time, but couldn't build a decent phaser..
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on September 22, 2005, 03:06:53 pm
Sooo tehy could travel to other galaxies, and move stuff back and forth in time, but couldn't build a decent phaser..

Or a simple shuttle.

Just think of all the physics and research that must have gone into building the Temoral Elevator, all of which would not have needed adding to the game if the Andros had been able to launch a simiple Wild Weasel.  These aliens were so smart they were stupid!

(Actually, the background material says they didn't have "phasers" at all, it's just that the beam weapon they did use had the same effect as the phaser 2.  Imagine the effect of those TR beams when they upgrade their beam weapon taragetting sensors to phaser 1 levels!)


-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on September 22, 2005, 03:10:36 pm
"A crafty Klingon"
<snicker>

I'm sure there's also a "handsome Gorn"

<blush>

You are too kind.

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: KAT Chuut-Ritt on September 22, 2005, 04:46:56 pm
"Sanitary Kzin"

*Sprays* Hexx

 ;D
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Hexx on September 22, 2005, 04:56:11 pm
OMG, did you guys see this?

[url]http://www.starfleetgames.com/fc/[/url]

SFB Lite


Actually- previous shots aside- it looks like a pretty cool game
Ill have to see if I can track down some of the Minis used.
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: 762_XC on September 22, 2005, 05:10:12 pm
Found this here (http://www.starfleetgames.com/fc/rulesnotused.htm)

PERVERSIONS (Photon Extended Range Very Effective Revised System Installed On New Ships)

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 22, 2005, 05:13:35 pm
Found this here ([url]http://www.starfleetgames.com/fc/rulesnotused.htm[/url])

PERVERSIONS (Photon Extended Range Very Effective Revised System Installed On New Ships)

 :rofl:


My secret is out . . .
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: Mog on September 22, 2005, 05:17:39 pm
"A crafty Klingon"
<snicker>

I'm sure there's also a "handsome Gorn"
"Sanitary Kzin"
'Straight Fed"
"confident Hydran"


"A tall Lyran" :P

You called?
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: FPF-DieHard on September 22, 2005, 05:27:20 pm
"A crafty Klingon"
<snicker>

I'm sure there's also a "handsome Gorn"
"Sanitary Kzin"
'Straight Fed"
"confident Hydran"


"A tall Lyran" :P

You called?

You don't count, you'r retired :P
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: KAT Chuut-Ritt on September 22, 2005, 06:02:06 pm
What the bejesus .....is a "Temporal Elevator"?

It is when Kroma gets on the elevator and the doors close leaving you alone, and time stands still   ;)
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on September 22, 2005, 06:29:09 pm

Given that this game got mentioned in a temporal elevator thread, I found this rather funny.  It's in the list of "Rules Not Used In This Game" section.

Quote
Andromedans: Their rules are just so bizarre that we decided to ignore them for now. If we ever do them at all, it may be with an entirely different set of rules.



-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Elevators & Temporalness
Post by: GDA-Agave on September 22, 2005, 10:32:54 pm
What the bejesus .....is a "Temporal Elevator"?

It is when Kroma gets on the elevator and the doors close leaving you alone, and time stands still   ;)

Yeesh Chuut!!  I knew you hated the whole Eve game since it took Kroma from you, but I just hadn't realized your "Kroma obsession" had gotten that bad.   :o   :o