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Title: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 09, 2005, 01:38:20 pm
Here's a teaser of 3 ships pending texture tweeks from Lord Schtupp. One design is by Azel, the other 2 come from the Starship Schematic database.

 
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Dukrat on October 09, 2005, 01:40:30 pm
My god, that ship is mostly nacells!!!  Nice feel to them tho, specially the Enterprise.
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 09, 2005, 02:01:10 pm
The multi nacelle ships come from this Bibliography...........

www.shipschematics.net/cgi-bin/startrek/bibliography.cgi?All (http://www.shipschematics.net/cgi-bin/startrek/bibliography.cgi?All)
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Don Karnage on October 10, 2005, 10:54:10 pm
this ship will be a great heavy cruiser, 4x15 point = 60 point, you can kick but with this ship, just need good shield and it will last long into battles :)

Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Norsehound on October 10, 2005, 11:22:32 pm
Noooo.... that's a Federation Fast Cruiser. Instead of hot warps, tandem standard warps!

I wonder if ADB has this on file...
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 11, 2005, 12:51:00 am
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Noooo.... that's a Federation Fast Cruiser. Instead of hot warps, tandem standard warps!

Actually Norsehound that's the USS Coral Sea NCC-1938 and she is a Battlecruiser.

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this ship will be a great heavy cruiser, 4x15 point = 60 point, you can kick but with this ship, just need good shield and it will last long into battles

I think you're definately on the right path Don.... care to do the ship specs ?

The second multi-nacelle ship is the USS Star Ranger NCC-2120 and naturally she's a dreadnought.

The third ship is a destroyer I believe, it's an original Azel aka Atolm design USS Thunderbolt NCC-120
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Starforce2 on October 11, 2005, 12:59:17 am
I don't think the connie looks all that hot with 5 nacelles, or 4 for that matter, but that's just me.
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 11, 2005, 01:01:23 am
I don't think the connie looks all that hot with 5 nacelles, or 4 for that matter, but that's just me.

I just bash 'em. Adds some more variety to the games and that's what it's all about. ;)
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Norsehound on October 11, 2005, 01:18:03 am
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Noooo.... that's a Federation Fast Cruiser. Instead of hot warps, tandem standard warps!

Actually Norsehound that's the USS Coral Sea NCC-1938 and she is a Battlecruiser.


A battlecruiser? Fah! By that definition we can stick two excelsior nacelles on a Burke Frigate hull and call it an NBC! (New Battle Cruiser).
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Starforce2 on October 11, 2005, 05:28:00 am
I thought the connie was a battlecruiser anyways?
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Norsehound on October 11, 2005, 02:27:10 pm
All signs that I know of point to the constitution class as a Heavy Cruiser. At least, that's what SFU thinks.

Paramount probably would call it 'an explorer'- like they do with any cool ship in the fleet.
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: FoaS_XC on October 11, 2005, 06:05:32 pm
Yes, the Connie is a Heavy Cruiser
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Don Karnage on October 11, 2005, 07:00:20 pm

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this ship will be a great heavy cruiser, 4x15 point = 60 point, you can kick but with this ship, just need good shield and it will last long into battles

I think you're definately on the right path Don.... care to do the ship specs ?

The second multi-nacelle ship is the USS Star Ranger NCC-2120 and naturally she's a dreadnought.

The third ship is a destroyer I believe, it's an original Azel aka Atolm design USS Thunderbolt NCC-120
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here the spec:



Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Captain Pierce on October 11, 2005, 07:17:46 pm
A battlecruiser? Fah! By that definition we can stick two excelsior nacelles on a Burke Frigate hull and call it an NBC! (New Battle Cruiser).

Jesus, man, don't give him any ideas!  :D  ;)
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: Norsehound on October 11, 2005, 07:19:42 pm
Well....

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FEDERATION TOS FAST CRUISER

Designation: F-FCA
BPV: 179
Crew: 42
Marines: 10
Shield 1: 30
Shield 2 & 6: 24
Shield 3 & 5: 20
Shield 4: 20
Total Shields: 138

Yr available: -21
Last: 10

Movement Cost: 1
Size class: 3
Turn Mode: D
Acceleration: 15
HET breakdown: 3

Total Warp Power: 60
Impulse Power: 4
Aux Power:
Total Engine Power: 64
Battery: 4

Transporters: 3
Tractors: 2
Shuttles: 4

2x Photon
2x Missle Rack G
6x Phaser 1
2x Phaser 3


What do you get when you put two more warp engines on a standard heavy cruiser?

This, pretty much.

If you notice, Fast cruisers (like the FD7) have thier heavy weapons decreased to allow them more speed and power reinforcement. Plus, it means they can do overloads while running circles around the enemy.

Just because it has extra nacelles doesn't make it a battlecruiser, or add any special extra super shielding. If I bash a frigate with 4x Excelsior nacelles, does that make it a battleship now, with 50 sheilds, just because it has bigger engines?

I say this because I have a distaste for hotrod starships. The only race to ever feild a super heavy cruiser (In SFU history and ingame) were the Romulans, and that idea was killed when X ships came along.
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 11, 2005, 09:32:37 pm
The original schematic says the coral sea is a battlecruiser, and that's how I'm gonna release it. Like I said earlier you can restat her anyway ya wish. That's the beauty of Star Trek  ;D Besides there are already a few TOS and TMP  Fast Cruiser models out there already. I'm making ships that aren't already in game  ;).

-MP
Title: Re: 3 TOS WIPS by ModelsPlease
Post by: ModelsPlease on October 17, 2005, 11:52:58 am
BUMP for Lord Schtupp  ;D