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Taldrenites => Starfleet Command Models => Topic started by: Darkseid on April 20, 2006, 10:36:36 pm

Title: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Darkseid on April 20, 2006, 10:36:36 pm
Remember in the DS9 episode "...Nor the Battle to the Strong" when a Federation Colony is under constant bombardment from Klingon mortors?  In the episode when Jake comes across that wounded Marine, the Marine mentions somthing about a "Hopper" and if his men had gotton to it safely.  I assume a Hopper is somthing like a troop transport much like a Helicopter of today.  Anybody ever think of what a Federation Helicopter Gunship/Dropship would look like?  It would be neat to see what some people come up with.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 20, 2006, 11:04:44 pm
I think it would look like the Argo shuttle. If it's big enough to hold a Fed Hummer it would be perfect for Marines plus it has a remote control.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: F9th0mega on April 20, 2006, 11:09:15 pm
im thinking more of an extended runabout converted for atmospheric flight, basically thrusters only to be deployed from low orbit :)
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Darkseid on April 21, 2006, 12:11:08 am
How about somthing like these?

(http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/planetaryresearch_angkorwat.jpg)
(http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/recongunship_comanche.jpg)
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 21, 2006, 03:03:33 am
Cool design but judging by the size of the rear docking ring it's rather small.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Jaeih t`Radaik on April 21, 2006, 06:39:00 am
I like it. Go for it, I'd want that for my game.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: intermech on April 21, 2006, 08:30:58 am
Check out this site.

http://www.treknology.org/hopper.htm
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Bartok on April 21, 2006, 09:27:27 am
Check out this site.

[url]http://www.treknology.org/hopper.htm[/url]


NICE - I like it.  Multi-purpose, could see it as a Fed PF in a modified campaign - least the tactical variants.  I like too that there's a "family" version.  Was wondering what the Winnebago's of the 2300's would look like  ;D
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 21, 2006, 10:26:29 am
Quote
Was wondering what the Winnebago's of the 2300's would look like  Grin
   :rofl:
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Sandman3D on April 21, 2006, 07:51:02 pm
I like that...exactly what is needed, a multi-function vehicle that can be mass produced. Great find IM. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Darkseid on April 22, 2006, 12:31:57 am
http://www.treknology.org/hopper_mil.jpg

I like this one.  It's nose is a little too 747 for me though.  It should look more like a helicopter.  Kinda like the Pelican on Halo, or those Dropships in Aliens.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Riskyllama on April 22, 2006, 02:14:18 am
they all seem to strike me as kinda smallish/confined/missing large doors that get alot of people out quick
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Terradyhne on April 23, 2006, 05:36:07 am
this is a pic of an TMP version of such a Shuttle or hopper and is used by Starfleet Marines (thanx to Jackills designs)
(http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/assaultshuttle_imp.jpg)
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 23, 2006, 10:33:03 am
Well in ST V they used Type 5 shuttlecraft for the assault on the Intergalactic Peace Planet. I still think the Argo shuttle is the best bet because if it's large enough to hold a Fed Hummer is more then adequite to hold Marines. But I'm sure someone will come up with something interesting. I for one will keep looking.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 23, 2006, 01:14:04 pm
I'm not a big fan of Nemesis, so forgive me MP that I prefer Treknology's Hopper over the Argo and it's 2002 Hummer.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 23, 2006, 10:19:46 pm
Ok how about something like this ?
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 23, 2006, 11:48:39 pm
Well, the Arrow-class isn't bad for a small personell transport shuttle (used in atmospheric and space flight), but canonically (I believe and according to Memory Alpha (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Hopper)) it is like TMP's Air Tram; a craft that is capable of atmospheric flight. 
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 24, 2006, 01:49:59 am
Well, the Arrow-class isn't bad for a small personell transport shuttle (used in atmospheric and space flight), but canonically (I believe and according to Memory Alpha ([url]http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Hopper[/url])) it is like TMP's Air Tram; a craft that is capable of atmospheric flight. 



It's anything but little, if you notice in the lower left of the picture is a person for scale  ;)
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: CyberTrekFan on April 24, 2006, 02:34:44 am
Ok how about something like this ?


That is simply put, perfect.


Looks like it could easily hold 36 marines, equipment and a crew of 4 or 5.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Darkseid on April 24, 2006, 02:36:52 am
Oh that's perfect!  I can picture a couple of those landing on a battlefield with troops storming out of it.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Bartok on April 24, 2006, 08:03:38 am
Definitely a very nice model!

Did u just "throw" that together  :o - fantastic.... <edit> ok - I see the credit now in the lower right hand <edit>

Looks like late(r) TMP'ish - though nacelles seem perhaps a touch later.  I'm looking at the blue bars as nacelles, this thing is warp capable, right?  Anyhow, wonderful model and a great shot - would love to see some more of her and hear about her develpment...
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Terradyhne on April 24, 2006, 08:38:41 am
and how ya like this  ;D

http://mbenzvi.com/deltafleet/tech/kronos.htm
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 24, 2006, 10:33:13 am
and how ya like this  ;D

[url]http://mbenzvi.com/deltafleet/tech/kronos.htm[/url]



Looks just like the aero shuttle from Voyager
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 24, 2006, 04:07:50 pm
I could easily re-HP either Major P's or Mani's aeroshuttle with these stats to make a varient if everyone want's it.
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: CyberTrekFan on April 24, 2006, 04:12:22 pm
I think it is simple, this is what we want, including the topic creator. He said it was perfect. If you could do this one, it would be best. Who wants another aero shuttle with different hardpoints? Still the same ship.

(http://www.globalownagetroopers.com/sigs/arrow_class.jpg)
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 24, 2006, 04:48:21 pm
I think it is simple, this is what we want, including the topic creator. He said it was perfect. If you could do this one, it would be best. Who wants another aero shuttle with different hardpoints? Still the same ship.

([url]http://www.globalownagetroopers.com/sigs/arrow_class.jpg[/url])



Very true it's the same ship, but some people may use it in game and may want a stronger weapon arsenal for it I wasn't infering we use it as a 'hopper' just another varient for the game  ;).
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: CyberTrekFan on April 24, 2006, 06:25:01 pm
Cant the new one be armed like the aeroshuttle/hopper?
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 24, 2006, 11:05:48 pm
Cant the new one be armed like the aeroshuttle/hopper?

That's what I mean, I'm gonna use the above linked stats on an Aero-shuttle varient. I'm hoping someone else can take on the Arrow-Class.  ;)
-MP
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: markyd on April 25, 2006, 05:01:43 am
That arrow class looks like a stretched stability  ;)
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: ModelsPlease on April 25, 2006, 06:49:35 am
That arrow class looks like a stretched stability  ;)

Yeah I thought that as well, but the front and middle section of the arrow are different, the back though is almost identical. Maybe we can gratuitously beg ya to do both the Arrow and Stability ?
 :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:  (we need a begging Smiley oh yeah and a drooling one lol)

-MP
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: CyberTrekFan on April 25, 2006, 03:32:45 pm
Yeah MarkyD we beg you to do your greatness, and create them :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: markyd on April 25, 2006, 03:46:12 pm
rofl.. i'll start with the arrow as going through the pain of doing the stability again doesnt bear thinking about...  ;)
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: Star Dragon on April 25, 2006, 04:29:42 pm
Try stretching it out (giggle), the stability I mean...

Anyway that arrow looks neat, but that scale pic is odd as the window look like a fighter cockpit/bomber so the person is too tiny (or the windows too big!!!) Just an opinion.

  I'd use it as a troop transport/Bomber with 6 person crew + payload (or troops)

*runs to  make some tri-colbalt-esqte missiles*
Title: Re: "Hopper" Request
Post by: markyd on April 25, 2006, 04:57:45 pm
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366580.0.html

Arrow hopper refit contnues here  ;)