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Title: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Just plain old Punisher on May 02, 2006, 02:14:12 pm: http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Movies&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270338&obj_id=51139

"Southie" contacted us today from pre-production of Gone Baby Gone. He had some news about Ben Affleck, who is making his directorial debut with the movie. Take the news with a grain of salt as it is all unconfirmed. He wrote:

I'm doing some work at the moment - well, a week off from doing some work, rehearsals start next week - on the Boston-filmed "Gone Baby Gone" with Ben Affleck directing, and Casey Affleck starring. It's a great script - very tense stuff - I think it'll change everyone's mind about Ben's abilities in this industry.

Anyway, at a round-table catch-up this week, a few of us sparkies and grips (and briefly, Ben and Ed Harris), got together to run through some of the details for the actual shoot - which begins in little under a month.

To the news...

This isn't gospel, this isn't even confirmed....it's merely speculation on our behalf, but some pretty SOLID speculation from some solid sources...... Ben had to shoot back to L.A, briefly after our meeting, to talk to Paramount. One of the chaps here, who just worked with Ben on a movie called Man About Town, said Ben's been talking about playing Jack Ryan again in a new movie called "Red Rabbit". It's the follow-up to 'Sum of all fears'. He assumes that's what it's still about..

.. some others had heard that Ben has also been talking to Paramount about possibly playing a lead role in a new Star Trek film from J.J Abrams. Apparently Abrams is coming down to visit the set in a few weeks, to visit Michelle Monaghan, whom he directed in Mission : Impossible 3, so that might add some more fuel to the fire. If it comes off, he's apparently playing the hero. Don't know if that's Captain Kirk or some other nameless male protagonist...but that's the gist of it. So possible that Affleck's going to go onto doing a new Jack Ryan, and possibly a "Trek", after he finishes with this film.

I wouldn't be surprised if they wait till Man about Town comes out to make any decisions on that. But can I just say, Ben is the nicest guy you'll ever meet....really respectful to "everyone and anyone".....I think he's going to do a top job on "Gone"..... stay tuned.

My best,

'Southie'
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Jack Morris on May 02, 2006, 03:20:43 pm: "Pearl Harbor sucked, and Ben Affleck too"

Team America: World Police!

America, fluck ya! ;D
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Father Ted on May 02, 2006, 03:41:33 pm: Ben Affleck absolutely mangled the character of Jack Ryan, so let's just ruin the entire Clancy series by casting him again. And the thought of him playing James Tiberious Kirk makes me nauseous. >:(
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Alidar Jarok on May 02, 2006, 03:43:50 pm: Well, no one knows that he is playing Kirk (or even if he would be in a Star Trek movie). I don't really mind Affleck (depending on the role), so I don't have any reason to get upset about this.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 04:03:10 pm: Only one actor can do justice to James T. Kirk.

Jim Carrey (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000120/).
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Father Ted on May 02, 2006, 04:24:40 pm: Quote from: IKV Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 04:03:10 pm
Only one actor can do justice to James T. Kirk.

Jim Carrey ([url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000120/[/url]).

I was thinking Ben Stiller... ;D

Or maybe Kevin Costner. He knows a thing or two about overacting.... ;)
Title: Rumor alert: Affleck seeking Trek XI role
Post by: Rat Boy on May 02, 2006, 04:55:35 pm: From Cinescape (http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Movies&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270338&obj_id=51139)

No, no, a thousand times no.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Jack Morris on May 02, 2006, 05:39:17 pm: Only William Shatner can, IMHO, and we are way too old for that now. Soon I'll have a cane! ;D
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: _Rondo_GE The OutLaw on May 02, 2006, 06:09:45 pm: I went over to the Shatner website and read allt he bitching and moaning ... lol!

" Don't Want A pre-Quel -Either!!!--I want a new movie with as many as the actors that played in the Original Roles as they can get!!!~!--JUST One-more to "GIT IT RIGHT THIS TIME"!!!-KILLING "MY HERO" OFF THAT WAY WAS A JOKE!!!~!-ONE THAT NEEDS AMENDING!!!!!---PATTY"

So wtf they gonna do dig defrost kelly out of the ground and animate him?

People need to realize that the original actors are too old now to reprise thier roles in Star Trek. For Trek to live on new actors need to take on the old roles.

Orlando Bloom as Spock? ALready has practice with ears...lol
(http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif )

(http://www.geocities.com/forever_orlando_bloom29/Legolas58.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: 762_XC on May 02, 2006, 06:10:51 pm: Oh God, please do not remind me of "Sum of All Fears". It was maybe the second best Clancy novel, and they turned it into pure CRAP on film.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Jack Morris on May 02, 2006, 06:24:08 pm: I could dig Orlando, he was my favorite character in LOTR. Hands down.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Sirgod on May 02, 2006, 07:31:14 pm: What's the name of that Chubby guy from Sienfield? He'd make a better Kirk then Affleck.

Stephen
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Jack Morris on May 02, 2006, 07:33:48 pm: Will we finally see some boning of new species? ;) To boldly go where no man has gone before?
Title: Re: Rumor alert: Affleck seeking Trek XI role
Post by: IndyShark on May 02, 2006, 07:43:24 pm: I would prefer Barney........ ;D
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Sirgod on May 02, 2006, 07:47:47 pm: Quote from: Jack Morris on May 02, 2006, 07:33:48 pm
Will we finally see some boning of new species? ;) To boldly go where no man has gone before?

Knowing todays Hollywood types, the new spieces will be a carp.

Stephen
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 07:50:59 pm: Thread A meet Thread B (http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366705.new/boardseen.html#new)
Title: Re: Rumor alert: Affleck seeking Trek XI role
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 07:52:06 pm: Thread B meet Thread A (http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php?topic=163366701.new#new)
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Jack Morris on May 02, 2006, 07:54:35 pm: Hey, Carps have very big mouths? ;D Hmmmmm, the possibilities. Much better than Spocks annals.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Sirgod on May 02, 2006, 07:55:13 pm: Quote from: IKV Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 07:50:59 pm
Thread A meet Thread B ([url]http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366705.new/boardseen.html#new[/url])

DOH! Didn't see that one Nem.

Stephen
Title: Re: Rumor alert: Affleck seeking Trek XI role
Post by: Rat Boy on May 02, 2006, 08:38:00 pm: Well, seeing how some people avoid the H&S and since this is the Trek forum...
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: AcePylut on May 02, 2006, 08:43:19 pm: Pearl Harbor sucked so bad no actor could have saved it. Wait, I'm a P40 Pilot, no wait I'm a Spitfire pilot, no wait my P40 can outturn 5 A6M2's, no wait we'll shoot down those Zero's with shotguns, no wait I'm a coast guard rescue person that can work a blowtorch, no wait I'm a hospital helper, no wait I'm a B25 pilot, no wait I'm a daddy for my ex-girlfriend that mourned me for a whole 3 weeks before getting the bone from my best friend. Should I continue?
Title: Re: Rumor alert: Affleck seeking Trek XI role
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 10:29:30 pm: Quote from: Rat Boy NCC-75098 on May 02, 2006, 08:38:00 pm
Well, seeing how some people avoid the H&S and since this is the Trek forum...

Which is why it was a two way crosslink. The Hot and Spicey thread was also linked to here.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 10:32:47 pm: Quote from: Stephen NCC -73070 on May 02, 2006, 07:55:13 pm
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 07:50:59 pm
Thread A meet Thread B ([url]http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366705.new/boardseen.html#new[/url])

DOH! Didn't see that one Nem.

Stephen

This was the first thread (which is why I called it thread A). I crosslinked both so people would be aware that there were two threads. Myself I would have preferred it to be in the Holodeck only.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: J. Carney on May 02, 2006, 11:58:04 pm: Quote from: AcePylut on May 02, 2006, 08:43:19 pm
Pearl Harbor sucked so bad no actor could have saved it. Wait, I'm a P40 Pilot, no wait I'm a Spitfire pilot, no wait my P40 can outturn 5 A6M2's, no wait we'll shoot down those Zero's with shotguns, no wait I'm a coast guard rescue person that can work a blowtorch, no wait I'm a hospital helper, no wait I'm a B25 pilot, no wait I'm a daddy for my ex-girlfriend that mourned me for a whole 3 weeks before getting the bone from my best friend. Should I continue?

Having worked the Speicher MIA case during the war, I can truely say that fact is- in this case- if not stranger than fiction, at least concurrent with it. ;)
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: 762_XC on May 03, 2006, 01:01:29 am: OMG, P40 = teh suxx0r

so does Ben Aflack btw
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Sirgod on May 03, 2006, 08:24:11 am: Quote from: IKV Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 10:32:47 pm
Quote from: Stephen NCC -73070 on May 02, 2006, 07:55:13 pm
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on May 02, 2006, 07:50:59 pm
Thread A meet Thread B ([url]http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366705.new/boardseen.html#new[/url])

DOH! Didn't see that one Nem.

Stephen

This was the first thread (which is why I called it thread A). I crosslinked both so people would be aware that there were two threads. Myself I would have preferred it to be in the Holodeck only.

That's a good idea.

Pun, RatBoy, I went ahead and merged both topics here guys. I hope you don't mind.

Stephen
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Dracho on May 03, 2006, 10:20:08 am: I think Bruce Willis could do an OK Kirk.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Lieutenant_Q on May 03, 2006, 10:26:00 am: nah...Affleck will play Gary Mitchell....Everyone seems to forget about him... >:(
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Sirgod on May 03, 2006, 10:36:20 am: Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on May 03, 2006, 10:26:00 am
nah...Affleck will play Gary Mitchell....Everyone seems to forget about him... >:(

LOL, ok that cracked me up. Can Q be his daddy?

Stephen
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Father Ted on May 03, 2006, 12:37:56 pm: Quote from: Dracho on May 03, 2006, 10:20:08 am
I think Bruce Willis could do an OK Kirk.

I think Willis would be great, but he's too old to play a young Kirk. If they had come up with this during his "Moonlighting" days back in the 80's..... :woot:
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on May 03, 2006, 11:42:17 pm: I think Ben Affleck can do some fine acting work. Back when he was constantly working with Mat Damon he did some good stuff. He also did well in Boiler Room (small part) and Daredevil. (Hey! I *liked* Daredevil!) He was also great in Changing Lanes with Samuel Jackson.

Unfortunately, most of his recent films -- Gigli, Pearl Harbor, and that awful Christmas movie -- have sucked big time. So either he has a lousy agent, or he makes lousy decisions on which movies to sign to.

You guys are right about Kirk though. Even though I think he can do a fine job as an actor, he does not seem right for Kirk. I think Lt Q is onto something with his Gary Mitchell suggestion.

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Lieutenant_Q on May 04, 2006, 12:21:58 am: You know, the more I think about it, the more I think Matt Damon would make a good Mitchell. Affleck would make a very good Finnigan though. ;D
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Dash Jones on May 08, 2006, 04:35:21 pm: I have no problem with Affleck as a Captain, but then again I like Sum of All Fears too. I think it would be awesome if they made a movie out of Red Rabbit.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Villa64 on May 08, 2006, 07:19:03 pm: I think it would be great if Affleck played Roger Rabbit.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: J. Carney on May 09, 2006, 01:28:40 am: Ben Affleck sucked as Ryan. Harrison Ford was and is the only actor in Hollywood suitable for that role. His character seems to match Ryan's: simple, average... the kind of guy that stumbled into greatness and upon who's sholders it rests uneasily.

Likewise, I don't think Affleck could ever play a decent Kirk.
He doesn't capture the air of arrogance, pride, and strength that marked the young Kirk. Affleck also has a bit to much of the 'pretty boy' inherant in his self to get it out of his characters- that would go a long way towards killing Kirk. Jim Kirk was many things, but he was no more a 'pretty boy' than he was a Boy Scout.

This is one of those times when a studio should head out into the lands of Fandom and seek out new tallent to fill the roles.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Dracho on May 09, 2006, 07:14:45 am: Quote from: J. Carney NCC-18401 on May 09, 2006, 01:28:40 am

He doesn't capture the air of arrogance, pride, and strength that marked the young Kirk.

Crap.. this is a Tom Cruise role isn't it?
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Father Ted on May 09, 2006, 12:15:03 pm: Quote from: Dracho on May 09, 2006, 07:14:45 am
Quote from: J. Carney NCC-18401 on May 09, 2006, 01:28:40 am

He doesn't capture the air of arrogance, pride, and strength that marked the young Kirk.

Crap.. this is a Tom Cruise role isn't it?

Nah, Cruise is too weird. My first choice would be Keifer Sutherland, but Jack Bauer is a little too old for the part(speaking of which, Jack hasn't killed anybody in the last couple of episodes, he's slipping :2gun:). MATT DAMON! is a little too soft-pedaled to be a convincing Kirk. Affleck would be a disaster. Edward Burns, who looks like Affleck, but can actually act, would be a decent choice as would Trey Parker... :lol: :carmen:
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: J. Carney on May 09, 2006, 01:31:30 pm: Quote from: Dracho on May 09, 2006, 07:14:45 am
Quote from: J. Carney NCC-18401 on May 09, 2006, 01:28:40 am

He doesn't capture the air of arrogance, pride, and strength that marked the young Kirk.

Crap.. this is a Tom Cruise role isn't it?

NOTHING is a Tom Cruise role, Dracho.

We need someone like Tom Berenger- he's EXTREMELY versitile... look at the different types of roles he has played well. And as for his ability to suprise you with his ability to avoid being typecast, look at his preformance in 'Rough Riders' as Teddy Roosevelt.

Can YOU picture Berringer as Roosevelt?
I couldn't... till he played the character to a tee.

Not sure who we could get as a young Kirk... Joshua Jackson has the right look, but I'm not sure that he has the right ATTITUDE.

Of course, since he's been picked up a couple of times for Drunken Disorderly, Public Intox and Assault... well, maybe he COULD play a young Kirk after all
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Dracho on May 09, 2006, 02:41:47 pm: He might be too old, but based on his Master & Commander role, I think Russell Crowe could do a decent Kirk.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: el-Karnak on May 09, 2006, 02:47:39 pm: I want Stephen Colbert for Captain Kirk!! :P

"Reality has a liberal bias." :lol:
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 10, 2006, 07:13:23 pm: Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on May 03, 2006, 10:26:00 am
Affleck will play Gary Mitchell....Everyone seems to forget about him... >:(

"Didn't I say you'd better...be good to me?"
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/galaxy70637/GaryAffleck.jpg)

;)
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Commander Maxillius on May 16, 2006, 10:47:37 am: Will Wheaton. Or that guy that plays the mathemetitian's brother on Numbers.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Rat Boy on May 18, 2006, 11:12:27 pm: Rumor partially debunked. (http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/05/18/Daredevil-Not-Among-Superheroes-in-Star.shtml)
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: jualdeaux on June 05, 2006, 09:13:45 pm: Quote from: J. Carney NCC-18401 on May 09, 2006, 01:28:40 am
Ben Affleck sucked as Ryan. Harrison Ford was and is the only actor in Hollywood suitable for that role. His character seems to match Ryan's: simple, average... the kind of guy that stumbled into greatness and upon who's sholders it rests uneasily.

Going to have to totally disagree with you there. The only one who played Jack Ryan properly was Alec Baldwin. he was the right age and had the proper look. Ford was way, way too old for the part.

Oh. And The Hunt for Red October was the only movie that did justice to the novel. All the rest sucked big time.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: J. Carney on June 06, 2006, 10:11:22 am: Quote from: jualdeaux on June 05, 2006, 09:13:45 pm
Quote from: J. Carney NCC-18401 on May 09, 2006, 01:28:40 am
Ben Affleck sucked as Ryan. Harrison Ford was and is the only actor in Hollywood suitable for that role. His character seems to match Ryan's: simple, average... the kind of guy that stumbled into greatness and upon who's sholders it rests uneasily.

Going to have to totally disagree with you there. The only one who played Jack Ryan properly was Alec Baldwin. he was the right age and had the proper look. Ford was way, way too old for the part.

Oh. And The Hunt for Red October was the only movie that did justice to the novel. All the rest sucked big time.

Baldwin was a prettyboy, and his version of Jack Ryan was pushy and snobbish; that wasn't Jack Ryan. Harrison Ford- though older than Jack should have been- was a quiet, humble everyman with a rather plain look... Jack Ryan to a tee.

Clear and Present Danger was the truest to the book of any of the Ryan movies- Patriot Games was OK right up till the ending, and Hunt was too doctored to make Jack look superhuman.
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: Commander La'ra on June 06, 2006, 11:19:22 pm: I liked both Ford and Baldwin. Ford captured the character Tom Clancy thought he was writing. Baldwin captured the character as he actually seemed as I read the novels.

Face it, Ryan is a bit snobby.:)
Title: Re: Ben Affleck as Capt Kirk?!?! WTF?!
Post by: SkyFlyer on June 13, 2006, 10:45:17 pm: GD it all I will play Kirk. That settles that.