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Title: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Soreyes on June 02, 2006, 09:14:29 am: Just found this clip. It's not to bad ;D

http://www.flurl.com/item/Star_Trek_Wars_Capt_Kirk_versus_Capt_Picard_u_144122/
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: KBF-Netman on June 02, 2006, 12:57:49 pm: Interesting \\//
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Skaren on June 02, 2006, 01:02:45 pm: That is mighty funny
Title: It's not really a good video, but that's my opinion.
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 02, 2006, 01:13:26 pm: I've seen it before somewhere at Google Video, sort-of an unrealistic and biased video. *shrug* Okay, probably an unhumourous response to that video, but then that's how I feel. There's another video out there, sort-of similar, I liked it, it was sort-of humerous in the way it was cut, but it was a good video:

Star Trek vs. Star Wars (http://youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4) (YouTube)
Star Trek vs. Star Wars (http://spacibm.rice.edu/~kocevski/projects/trek/content.html) (The same video from above, but can be downloaded here.)
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Rolling on June 02, 2006, 05:23:44 pm: Boy, when you compare both ST series, side by side like that, it really shows how cheesy the original one was and just how dorky Kirk was.
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Fedman NCC-3758 on June 02, 2006, 05:54:27 pm: Hooah!! Thanks, Soreyes. That was a hoot.
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: KAT Chuut-Ritt on June 03, 2006, 02:10:07 am: Picard was likely the better ambassador, but Kirk would have kicked his butt in combat pretty much like the video ;D
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Soreyes on June 03, 2006, 02:18:33 am: Quote from: KAT Chuut-Ritt on June 03, 2006, 02:10:07 am
Picard was likely the better ambassador, but Kirk would have kicked his butt in combat pretty much like the video ;D

It must have been those "Magic Photons" ;D
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: FPF-Tobin Dax on June 10, 2006, 08:30:29 pm: Quote from: Rolling on June 02, 2006, 05:23:44 pm
Boy, when you compare both ST series, side by side like that, it really shows how cheesy the original one was and just how dorky Kirk was.

remember it's almost 30 years apart when you compare what is cheesey. I got a kick out of this.
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Rolling on June 11, 2006, 06:02:15 am: Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on June 10, 2006, 08:30:29 pm
Quote from: Rolling on June 02, 2006, 05:23:44 pm
Boy, when you compare both ST series, side by side like that, it really shows how cheesy the original one was and just how dorky Kirk was.

remember it's almost 30 years apart when you compare what is cheesey. I got a kick out of this.

Kirk was always a dork. <shivers>
Title: Re: It's not really a good video, but that's my opinion.
Post by: SSCF-LeRoy on June 11, 2006, 12:17:39 pm: Quote from: Chris Johnson on June 02, 2006, 01:13:26 pm
Star Trek vs. Star Wars ([url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4[/url]) (YouTube)

:rofl: :lol:
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on June 13, 2006, 01:00:49 am: Quote from: Rolling on June 11, 2006, 06:02:15 am
Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on June 10, 2006, 08:30:29 pm
Quote from: Rolling on June 02, 2006, 05:23:44 pm
Boy, when you compare both ST series, side by side like that, it really shows how cheesy the original one was and just how dorky Kirk was.

remember it's almost 30 years apart when you compare what is cheesey. I got a kick out of this.

Kirk was always a dork. <shivers>

Admit it, that's a shiver of delight. His blatant masculinity makes you nervous.

-S'Cipio
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Rolling on June 13, 2006, 05:23:15 am: Quote from: GDA-S'Cipio on June 13, 2006, 01:00:49 am
Quote from: Rolling on June 11, 2006, 06:02:15 am
Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on June 10, 2006, 08:30:29 pm
Quote from: Rolling on June 02, 2006, 05:23:44 pm
Boy, when you compare both ST series, side by side like that, it really shows how cheesy the original one was and just how dorky Kirk was.

remember it's almost 30 years apart when you compare what is cheesey. I got a kick out of this.

Kirk was always a dork. <shivers>

Admit it, that's a shiver of delight. His blatant masculinity makes you nervous.

-S'Cipio

:puke:
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: SSCF-LeRoy on June 13, 2006, 11:51:54 am: Quote from: Rolling on June 13, 2006, 05:23:15 am
Quote from: GDA-S'Cipio on June 13, 2006, 01:00:49 am
Quote from: Rolling on June 11, 2006, 06:02:15 am
Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on June 10, 2006, 08:30:29 pm
Quote from: Rolling on June 02, 2006, 05:23:44 pm
Boy, when you compare both ST series, side by side like that, it really shows how cheesy the original one was and just how dorky Kirk was.

remember it's almost 30 years apart when you compare what is cheesey. I got a kick out of this.

Kirk was always a dork. <shivers>

Admit it, that's a shiver of delight. His blatant masculinity makes you nervous.

-S'Cipio

:puke:

The mere thought of Kirk even has her stomach all in a twitter ;)
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Alphageek on June 16, 2006, 03:53:00 am: See? That's what happens when you put a Frenchman in command of your flagship.
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Rolling on June 16, 2006, 06:08:15 am: Picard is S.E.X.Y!!!!

I could just toss by batteries away!
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Nemesis on June 16, 2006, 01:17:28 pm: Quote from: Rolling on June 16, 2006, 06:08:15 am
Picard is S.E.X.Y!!!!

I could just toss by batteries away!

You just like the fact that on his first mission with the Enterprise he surrendered and you know you could dominate him. He wasn't even ASKED to surreneder and he volunteered. Worf should have killed him and taken command.

Strolls away thinking "My work is done"
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Rolling on June 16, 2006, 04:19:10 pm: Quote from: IKV Nemesis on June 16, 2006, 01:17:28 pm
Quote from: Rolling on June 16, 2006, 06:08:15 am
Picard is S.E.X.Y!!!!

I could just toss by batteries away!

You just like the fact that on his first mission with the Enterprise he surrendered and you know you could dominate him. He wasn't even ASKED to surreneder and he volunteered. Worf should have killed him and taken command.

Strolls away thinking "My work is done"

Oh.... maybe he should have jumped in the bed and said.

"I just wanted. To tell you. Just how dif... ferent you are. From other..... Humanoids."
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Nemesis on June 16, 2006, 04:40:37 pm: Quote from: Rolling on June 16, 2006, 04:19:10 pm
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on June 16, 2006, 01:17:28 pm
Quote from: Rolling on June 16, 2006, 06:08:15 am
Picard is S.E.X.Y!!!!

I could just toss by batteries away!

You just like the fact that on his first mission with the Enterprise he surrendered and you know you could dominate him. He wasn't even ASKED to surreneder and he volunteered. Worf should have killed him and taken command.

Strolls away thinking "My work is done"

Oh.... maybe he should have jumped in the bed and said.

"I just wanted. To tell you. Just how dif... ferent you are. From other..... Humanoids."

So just how would you answer that question?

(I tried to resist but that was a mandatory response :) I HAD to say it.)
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: GDA-S'Cipio on June 18, 2006, 01:43:43 am: Quote from: IKV Nemesis on June 16, 2006, 01:17:28 pm

You just like the fact that on his first mission with the Enterprise he surrendered and you know you could dominate him. He wasn't even ASKED to surreneder and he volunteered. Worf should have killed him and taken command.

And his third..... and his fifth..... Really, he seemed to make a habit of it for the first year of his command. I think Roddenberry was just having a good French joke.

_s'Cipio
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: Nemesis on June 19, 2006, 12:26:25 am: Quote from: GDA-S'Cipio on June 18, 2006, 01:43:43 am
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on June 16, 2006, 01:17:28 pm

You just like the fact that on his first mission with the Enterprise he surrendered and you know you could dominate him. He wasn't even ASKED to surreneder and he volunteered. Worf should have killed him and taken command.

And his third..... and his fifth..... Really, he seemed to make a habit of it for the first year of his command. I think Roddenberry was just having a good French joke.

_s'Cipio

Be fair, he only surrendered once in the 1st season, in the first mission. He did ATTEMPT to surrender in the fourth mission to the Ferengi but when they misunderstood him and refused to make an unconditional surrender to him he reversed himself and his ships counselor recognized what was actually going on.

His violations of the Prime Directive were legion and he mostly never even noticed them.

Code of Honor - for example was open contact with a pre Warp civilzation and he fired on the planet with Photon Torpedos (an act of war).

Justice - he again openly contacted a pre warp society and it isn't until he refuses to allow them to carry out their criminal justice against a crew member that he realizes he is violating the Prime Directive (he also sent down a landing party with a member who had no communicator who was then allowed to be isolated from the rest of the party).

Angel One - was another pre Warp society that he openly contacted this time he claims that the Prime Directive does not apply to civilians - they can interfere to their hearts content.

Symbiosis - where he openly offered to rescue the interplanetary freighter of a pre Warp culture and only when he realizes that he is dealing with interplanetary drug dealers does he realize that he is violating the Prime Directive once more.

Until those cultures had warp drive or otherwise became aware of interstellar civilization contacting them was in violation of the Prime Directive.

In later seasons he interprets the Prime Directive as blocking all open contact even to the point of allowing natural disasters (Pen Pals) to destroy entire species that he could save. The stated purpose of the Prime Directive was to protect developing cultures. If a culture is being destroyed by outside means that are beyond their technology OR they are not developing then the Prime Directive does not apply.

As examples of cases where Kirk interfered but was judged not guilty of violating the Prime Directive.

Errand of Mercy for example allowed Kirk to openly contact a (supposedly) pre Warp society as otherwise they were facing conquest by the Klingons.

The Apple Kirk destroyed the "god" as it kept the society stagnant (and would have destroyed the Enterprise).

The Return of the Archons was a stagnant society so destroying Landru let them begin to develop again.
Title: Re: LMAO!! Watch Kirk Kick Picards Butt
Post by: CaptJosh on June 19, 2006, 12:40:26 am: The people on the planet in Code of Honor had subspace communications. They had been in touch with the Federation for a significant amount of time. Prime Directive does not apply.

"Justice" I'm not sure about. I think they had some sort of knowledge that the people had been contacted by forces outside their world. Especially since none of them thought it strange for people who didn't look like them at all to show up.

"Angel One": Absolutely correct. The Prime Directive is STARFLEET General Order 1. It has nothing to do with civilians.

"Symbiosis": Other Starfleet General Orders intervene. They are required to respond to a distress call. A call for "any vessels in the area, please assist" means them too, prewarp or no. A spacefaring civilization should have some expectation that they might not be the only people around. The interference with the drug running can be construed to be the elimination of an unnatural development, as it was engineered by the people selling the "medicine."