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Off Topic => Holodeck => Topic started by: Lepton on July 22, 2006, 06:14:55 pm
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Paramount releases Star Trek XI poster at San Diego Comic-Con
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/19575.html
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Well, it does indeed appear that we are going 'old school' on this one, boys.
Alien T&A, fistfights, and jea...rky speeches are going... to be the norm... agian!
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That poster says to me .... back to the foundation. Which means fighting the Klingons again. I just don't have any faith in their plans for the franchise. I hope I'm wrong. Sincerely.
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Which means fighting the Klingons again.
Why?
In 79 TOS episodes, only 5 of them featured Klingons.
Errand of Mercy, The Trouble of Tribbles, Elaan of Troyius, Day of the Dove, The Savage Curtain.
In 6 TOS movies, only 3 of them featured Klingons as villians -- ST III, V, and VI.
I don't know why you think that TOS means fighting the Klingons.
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Why?
In 79 TOS episodes, only 5 of them featured Klingons.
Errand of Mercy, The Trouble of Tribbles, Elaan of Troyius, Day of the Dove, The Savage Curtain.
In 6 TOS movies, only 3 of them featured Klingons as villians -- ST III, V, and VI.
I don't know why you think that TOS means fighting the Klingons.
You forgot Fridays Child and A Private Little War. Nearly 10%. vs a mere 3 for the Romulans.
Because before TNG showed there were few races from outside the Federation that had repeat appearnaces the Klingons and their Romulan client state were the two most popular.
Don't forget that both Kor and Kang beat Kirk and Kirk was saved from Koloth by a tribble (leading to an act of ecoterrorism by Scotty). Kor had his victory overturned by the Organians not Kirk. Kang recognized the energy being as the true enemy and joined with Kirk to deny it victory, but Kang not Kirk was the one in command of the Enterprise when the enemy was defeated, the Enterprise was returned merely for diplomatic reasons.
Confrontations below the level of warfare and through client states would be a natural for the Feds and Klingons with the Organians forcing them to compete economically and dipolmatically for developing areas of the neutral zone.
By the way there were NO Klingons in any of the movies. Kor, Kang and Koloth were Klingons those boneheads in the movies are something else.
:flame:
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By the way there were NO Klingons in any of the movies. Kor, Kang and Koloth were Klingons those boneheads in the movies are something else.
:flame:
There were no Romulans in TNG either. ;)
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By the way there were NO Klingons in any of the movies. Kor, Kang and Koloth were Klingons those boneheads in the movies are something else.
:flame:
There were no Romulans in TNG either. ;)
The Romulans at least are closer in behaviour.
I can't imagine Kor, Kang or Koloth growling at a Q. Neither would they say to a superiour "If you were any other man I'd kill you where you stand" - they'd kill him or not but never say it that way.
The old Klingons had a reason for militarism. Their area of space was short on resources (hinted but not stated to be because of a prior empire mining it out) and they had to expand to unexploited territory or fall. Boneheads just like hurting people.
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There were no Romulans in TNG either. ;)
The Romulans at least are closer in behaviour.
Hardly close- more like polar opposites.
Romulans in TNG were devious, unprincipled and boastful. They were totally opposite form they proud, honorable, cunning examples in TOS- what would theROmulan Commander form Balance of Terror thought of the vindictive Romulans in TN?
Romulans were supposed to be an honorable, mysterious enemy- fudal Japanese in nature. In TNG they wound up being as much a perversion of that behavior as WWII Japanese leaders were of their Samauri ancestors.
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That poster says to me .... back to the foundation.
Are you guys seeing more than me? Because all I see is just a two-color icon of the Enterprise uniform symbol. Talk about a poster tha shows you nothing!
-S'Cipio
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Well, if you look at it it bears more resemblance to the TOS emblem than some of the later designs. Black border and center icon, etc. Also, the colors used as a backdrop are more akin to the TOS style, and would make you think of Kirk and Spock as those were their colors.
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That poster says to me .... back to the foundation.
Are you guys seeing more than me? Because all I see is just a two-color icon of the Enterprise uniform symbol. Talk about a poster tha shows you nothing!
-S'Cipio
Huh? S'Cipio, it's obviously back to classic trek with the TOS enterprise command crest. there are 3 variations out, 1 in the science blue, 1 in the command gold and the split of the 2 colors.
http://www.trektoday.com/news/230706_01.shtml
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You know... they can have a totally new cast in old school trek ON THE ENTERPRISE if they use Pike's crew
food for thought...
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yeah, I doubt that anyone would mind if they found a new actor for Pike. Personally I think that going backwards until they get things straightened out continuity wise is a big mistake. Here's hoping they don't screw with Trek lore more than Enterprise did.
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Are you guys seeing more than me? Because all I see is just a two-color icon of the Enterprise uniform symbol. Talk about a poster tha shows you nothing!
-S'Cipio
Huh? S'Cipio, it's obviously back to classic trek with the TOS enterprise command crest. there are 3 variations out, 1 in the science blue, 1 in the command gold and the split of the 2 colors.
Of course I recognize the Enterprise icon; was it that much different in TNG that we know which era this is? I guess I never really paid attention to how much or how little it changed in TNG. Mostly I just got annoyed that the Enterprise's emblem seemed to have suddenly become the Federation's emblem.
It made more sense in TOS when every ship had its own emblem, and the UFP had its own flag.
Make no mistake, however, I'm ecstatic with a return to the TOS era; so long as the writing keeps us there, instead of the Enterprise series's mistake of giving us TNG sensibilities in a pre-TOS era.
-S'Cipio
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Of course I recognize the Enterprise icon; was it that much different in TNG that we know which era this is? I guess I never really paid attention to how much or how little it changed in TNG. Mostly I just got annoyed that the Enterprise's emblem seemed to have suddenly become the Federation's emblem.
It made more sense in TOS when every ship had its own emblem, and the UFP had its own flag.
Make no mistake, however, I'm ecstatic with a return to the TOS era; so long as the writing keeps us there, instead of the Enterprise series's mistake of giving us TNG sensibilities in a pre-TOS era.
-S'Cipio
I just had this horrible thought ...... this flick will incorporate time travel again. Kirk of the present meets Kirk of the future.
I need to sit awhile. :-\
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Too bad they never caught on with the old Star Fleet Battles material in which many Kilingon ships (especially 2nd line ships) were crewed by slave races, with just a few Klingon officers.
It would have made them far more interesting as bad guys.
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Too bad the movie cant be SFC2
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Too bad the movie cant be SFC2
Ya have a point there Darth.
SFC II & III have better plot lines than half of the Trek flicks.
Pretty sad.
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There were no Romulans in TNG either. ;)
The Romulans at least are closer in behaviour.
Hardly close- more like polar opposites.
Romulans in TNG were devious, unprincipled and boastful. They were totally opposite form they proud, honorable, cunning examples in TOS- what would theROmulan Commander form Balance of Terror thought of the vindictive Romulans in TN?
Romulans were supposed to be an honorable, mysterious enemy- fudal Japanese in nature. In TNG they wound up being as much a perversion of that behavior as WWII Japanese leaders were of their Samauri ancestors.
What would the Romulan commander from The Balance of Terror think of the TNG Romulan? About the same as he thought of the junior officer with political connections who tried to take control of the ship during battle against the Enterprise. About the same as he thought of the Romulan government in his own time, sending him out to attack not for the glory of the empire or its defense but more as part of internal political maneuvering with him and his crew as sacrificial pawns.
Not so very different from TNG. Two groups of Romulans. One that follows the old ways of honour and service to the Empire and one that follows the way of power politics and political connections with no regard for anything but their personal profit and power. The TNG Romulans had merely gone further down the path and the old style Romulans were much rarer.
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Too bad they never caught on with the old Star Fleet Battles material in which many Kilingon ships (especially 2nd line ships) were crewed by slave races, with just a few Klingon officers.
It would have made them far more interesting as bad guys.
For the "cannon fodder" slave crew I would use the TNG style Klingons - they have the right attitude for the job. Have them be Klingons as much as slaves in Rome were Romans.
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Why does this poster giving me this ominous feeling?
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Why does this poster giving me this ominous feeling?
Well, it is just about as 'Hollywood' as Trek has ever been made to feel.
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hmmm... thee pieces are coming together... I just hope the rest of the cast is on par with Matt Damon and not either no-names or famous people that suck.
If Paris Hilton comes on the screen even once I'm selling my PC :(
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I'd like to see Kirsten Dunst as Nurse Chapel and perhaps Russell Crowe or Mel Gibson as Bones.
Too bad Hollywierd is so anti-Southern...
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Hmmm, Russel Crowe as Bones? Hmmm. Now I could actually see Mel Gibson, for some reason.
You know that they'll have Paris in there as Yoeman Rand. You just know it. ;)
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Hmmm, Russel Crowe as Bones? Hmmm. Now I could actually see Mel Gibson, for some reason.
You know that they'll have Paris in there as Yoeman Rand. You just know it. ;)
Mel Gibson just has that same simple, down-home quality that DeForrest Kelley displayed. They are both Anyman, you see them on the street going to work every morning and drinking beer in the tavern after 5PM.
Crowe was the only other actor that I could htink of off the top of my head that has that same APERANCE, though he lacks in the aproachability.
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By the way there were NO Klingons in any of the movies. Kor, Kang and Koloth were Klingons those boneheads in the movies are something else.
I prefer the spiny heads. Especially since the only reason they didn't appear more alien in the series was the lack of makeup budget.
I do agree that Klingon characterization suffered in TNG. DS9 had some fine moments though...Mar'tok was probably my favorite character on that series. And the old Klingon on Enterprise screwing Section 31 gave me a nice warm feeling in my stomach.
"And you believed me."
;D
Thing is though, if you get right down to it...everything about TNG was watered down, including the Federation. No surprise that the Klingons followed the pattern.
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I think Russel Crowe would be better as a Klingon.
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Mel is too old for classic McCoy...
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Over on another thread by Frey I posted that I could actually look forward to a major motion picture showing early Federation, Klingon, and Romulan ships. Imagine the detail for the modders around here. ;) ;)
They'd also have to break out the sound effect tracks from the 60's! :D
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Heh, get ready to be appauled. Do you think that they will make the ships look like they did in the 60's, just with higher definition? Doubtful, get ready to see an extensively updated early era (probably to kick all the old school guys in the butt and make it easier to unify one look throughout the timeline, rather than extensive retro for during one era).
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Also on that other thread I mentioned that they could also royally screw this project up. But being an optimist, I'm hoping for the best. It's one of my character flaws.
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Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.
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Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.
And be prepared for ANYTHING.
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Like Kirk being played by a woman. Jamie T. Kirk! ;)
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Like Kirk being played by a woman. Jamie T. Kirk! ;)
Geeze, the only woman who could be slutty enough to play James Kirk would be someone like Marilyn Chambers. Although, Ron Jeramy as "Bones" would add a whole new facet to the character.. but they might have to change the name to Skank Trek.
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Oh geez.
That's the end of this thread.
Bombs away. 8)
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I'm sorry but the green alien gag in Star Trek 4 was so spot-on that it was hilarious.
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I'm sorry but the green alien gag in Star Trek 4 was so spot-on that it was hilarious.
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:huh:
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I'm sorry but the green alien gag in Star Trek 4 was so spot-on that it was hilarious.
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:huh:
When Kirk was messing with the green alien chic on the Klingon prison planet, and it later morphed into a guy. McCoy gave him a look that was priceless.
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Ah, I see the problem.
It was ST 6 and she wasn't green.
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For whomever it was that was talking about a replacement actor for Pike (I was too lazy to look)
Kurt Carley really stole the show as Pike in the New Voyages www.startreknewvoyages.com (http://www.startreknewvoyages.com) "In Harms Way" episode.
He really comes off as a classic starfleet captain
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Ah, I see the problem.
It was ST 6 and she wasn't green.
DOH.. 6.. you're right
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M NOT IN IT?!?!?!??!?!
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M NOT IN IT?!?!?!??!?!
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:lol:
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Hmmm, Russel Crowe as Bones? Hmmm. Now I could actually see Mel Gibson, for some reason.
You know that they'll have Paris in there as Yoeman Rand. You just know it. ;)
Mel Gibson just has that same simple, down-home quality that DeForrest Kelley displayed. They are both Anyman, you see them on the street going to work every morning and drinking beer in the tavern after 5PM.
Crowe was the only other actor that I could htink of off the top of my head that has that same APERANCE, though he lacks in the aproachability.
I've got the perfect man to play McCoy: Ron White
(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Ron-White-st01.jpg)
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For the love of all that is holy, nooo!!!!
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LOL...
Sorry, Ted... Ron might drink almost as much as MacCoy, but I don't see the same level of intelligence. ;)
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Actually, a spoof skit with those 3 as Bones, Kirk, and Spock would be funny.. if you were drunk and stuck at home on a Saturday night with a broken leg.
Spock: Captain.. GIT R DONE!
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The Blue Collar guys would be hillarious in a spoof of Star Trek. Ingvall could play Spock, Foxworthy would of course be Kirk, White is McCoy and Larry the Cable Guy as Scotty. You could even put sponsor stickers all over the Enterprise to add to the redneck/NASCAR schtic. The possibilities are endless on this. ;)
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The Blue Collar guys would be hillarious in a spoof of Star Trek. Ingvall could play Spock, Foxworthy would of course be Kirk, White is McCoy and Larry the Cable Guy as Scotty. You could even put sponsor stickers all over the Enterprise to add to the redneck/NASCAR schtic. The possibilities are endless on this. ;)
omg... If I only had a copy of photoshop right now.... :rofl:
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I suppose this should be posted
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20070228/en_tv_eo/b3ea9976_ddad47f6_b0e8_f8f599de18e3
Abrams' Trek Launching in Christmas '08 by Josh Grossberg
Wed Feb 28, 6:10 AM ET
Los Angeles (E! Online) - It's official. JJ Abrams is beaming up for duty.
After months of speculation, the Lost mastermind has confirmed he will helm Paramount Pictures' first new Star Trek voyage in more than five years.
The tentatively titled Star Trek XI will follow the formula of franchise reinvention pioneered by Batman Begins and Casino Royale—i.e., do an origin tale of the main characters.
In this case, the new Trek will travel back to the Starfleet Academy salad days of James T. Kirk and his best half-Vulcan buddy Spock as they boldly go on their first adventures together in the final frontier.
Paramount is targeting a stardate of Christmas Day 2008 to launch the new-old crew.
The script is being penned by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, who also wrote last May's Mission: Impossible III, which marked Abrams' feature-helming debut. Kurzman and Orci are also part of the production team with Abrams and his Lost pals Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burke.
There's no word on casting yet. William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, both 75, played Kirk and Spock, respectively, on the original 1966-69 Trek TV series and in several Trek movies.
A self-professed Trek nerd, Abrams initially agreed to develop the project last year, taking on the daunting task of overhauling a creaky franchise that had grossed more than $1 billion in worldwide ticket sales but recently had fallen on tough times.
The last Next Generation-powered movie installment, Star Trek: Nemesis, bombed at the box office (with just $67 million earned worldwide on an estimated budget of $60 million, per Box Office Mojo). The most recent TV series, Star Trek: Enterprise, a prequel set in the days long before Kirk and Spock, lasted only four low-rated seasons before being canceled in 2005. And in 2003, Paramount and the Trek brain trust were sued by a former partner for letting the once vaunted franchise fall into "decay."
"If there's something I'm dying to see, it's the brilliance and optimism of [creator Gene] Roddenberry's world brought back to the big screen," said Abrams.
"Alex and Bob wrote an amazing script that embraces and respects Trek canon but charts its own course. Our goal is to make a picture for everyone—lifelong fans and the uninitiated. Needless to say, I am honored and excited to be part of this next chapter of Star Trek."
Of course, Abrams & Co. currently have their hands full trying to figure out what the heck is going on with Lost. Ratings for the ABC show have declined by 14 percent during its current third season. (Lindelof admitted last month that he and his fellow producers have begun talks with the network about setting a specific end date for Lost, in part to help keep viewers plugged in to the series' ongoing mysteries.)
Word of the Star Trek liftoff comes amid repots from New York's Comic Con that Stephen King has sold the Lost boys the rights to develop King's epic fantasy-western series, The Dark Tower, into a possible movie or TV show.
Fanboys will have to wait a while on that one, however.
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Ya'll r dumb.
(http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200607/stxi-poster-1-popup/120x90.jpg)
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OBVIOUSLY this is Kirk and Spocks secret love child... WTF is the matter with you guys? Right in front of your nose here.
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update. No academy BS. Prequel to the series so it would seem, so how do you get McCoy on board the ship and Sulu back to physicist? Ii wast Mark Piper as the medical chief?
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I don't think there will be a McCoy if they're going with Piper as the Med. Chief.
I always thought McCoy was older than Kirk and Spock on the show anyway.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Baird say he was a longtime fan, and he couldn't tell if Laforge was human or alien?
He said he was making Nemesis for the longtime fans and the uninitiated, too...
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Figuring out whats going on with lost,..??? i know it.. its boring!
PEoeple are tired to get hung for 8 seasons(X-files anyone?) just to unfold a rather lame.. end secret.
Edless painfull lightsheding on the characters, while waiting for any seriously interisting story bits...,its simple the name is program the makers of lost, lost it. hmmpf
Specifically how to entertain ,without overstreching the patience of the watchers.
That said i would rather like to not see anyone involved with lost ,daring to touch Treck.