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Taldrenites => Dynaverse II Experiences => Topic started by: FPF-DieHard on May 01, 2007, 02:24:36 pm
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This will ultimately be decided by me but I want some feedback as to how the community feels about having BBs on the server.
Though I myself do not like flying Battleships, I understand why some do. Some races, take the ISC and Klingons for example, have rather crappy DNs but excellent BBs. Allowing them to field the BBs is a better use of their “points” for capital ships.
I remember on SGO6 the tension in the air whenever 2 BBs were on the board and in battle with each other. As Kirk says, this is Poker not Chess and sometimes you have to up the ante for the game to be exciting.
Below are their relation in the “points” scale which is loosely based on the F&E costs. I have not decided yet wheter or not we will be using Cost of Build OOB or Points at a time, but with the reduced player numbers Cost of Build OOB just seems silly as even with really low point counts we’d still have way more capital ships built than we have players.
BCH 2 Points
DN 3 Points
CVA 4 Points
BB 8 Points
BBV 10 Points
Super BB 10 Points
Super BBV 12 Points
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What u mean points? U mean maximum cap ships on at once?
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What u mean points? U mean maximum cap ships on at once?
yes
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And how many are to be made? Can each side fly as many? Can buy as many? Do you have a 'Shin' rule about an anonymous player pissing one away?
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And how many are to be made? Can each side fly as many? Can buy as many?
You can make as many as you have points.
It will be points on at a time like we've used for the past few servers. I'm thinking 10-12 Capital ship points by the time late era rolls along, so you can either field 2 DN and a CVA or that BBV. You decide. No side will have enough points to field more than 1 BB at a time.
Do you have a 'Shin' rule about an anonymous player pissing one away?
Is this realy needed? It's funny as hell but do we really need it? I think whoever flys capital ships should be up to the RM's discretion.
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Ya, but how many times is the B10K gonna come back from the dead?
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Ya, but how many times is the B10K gonna come back from the dead?
As many times as people have PP for it.
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Kreug, Dfly, PM me you opinions on this please ;D
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Here's what I'm thinking so far. Basic BBs avaialble for all races which will take up say 8 points (BCH=2, DN=3, CVA=4) of the "X amount of points on at a time" system. The Klingons can field the B11K for 10 points if they choose.
10 Points is what I'm thinking the Max heavy Metal points at a time will be so fielding a BB really is putting all youe eggs in one basket. This fits with our current player population but I will reserve the right to increase this if for some reason 40 players start showing up.
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If we do have battleships, which I would prefer that we didn't, to discourage BB joy-riding, could you make the BBs really expensive, with a replacement value of 50%. I don't know if the replacement ship % is a general value for all ships, or if you can set each ship individually.
My thought here is that the loss of a battleship should be devastating. Not only to the player prestige points, but to the side (VC PvP special award pts).
Just my anti-battleship thoughts. :P
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If we do have battleships, which I would prefer that we didn't, to discourage BB joy-riding, could you make the BBs really expensive, with a replacement value of 50%. I don't know if the replacement ship % is a general value for all ships, or if you can set each ship individually.
My thought here is that the loss of a battleship should be devastating. Not only to the player prestige points, but to the side (VC PvP special award pts).
Just my anti-battleship thoughts. :P
I'm seriously considering a 'Shin" rule ;D
They'll be abou 100K PP
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If we do have battleships, which I would prefer that we didn't, to discourage BB joy-riding, could you make the BBs really expensive, with a replacement value of 50%. I don't know if the replacement ship % is a general value for all ships, or if you can set each ship individually.
My thought here is that the loss of a battleship should be devastating. Not only to the player prestige points, but to the side (VC PvP special award pts).
Just my anti-battleship thoughts. :P
I'm seriously considering a 'Shin" rule ;D
They'll be abou 100K PP
"Shin" rule? Please explain.
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If we do have battleships, which I would prefer that we didn't, to discourage BB joy-riding, could you make the BBs really expensive, with a replacement value of 50%. I don't know if the replacement ship % is a general value for all ships, or if you can set each ship individually.
My thought here is that the loss of a battleship should be devastating. Not only to the player prestige points, but to the side (VC PvP special award pts).
Just my anti-battleship thoughts. :P
I'm seriously considering a 'Shin" rule ;D
They'll be abou 100K PP
"Shin" rule? Please explain.
It's something Dizzy and I were BSing about a few weeks ago. It would allow the SC of each side the ability to void 1 VC kill a server for circumstances like when a n00b foolishly looses a BB or soemthing like that. Anyone remember Risky's "Gone with the Shin" incident on SGO5?
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Or when Shin lost a G-CVA to DM6 (in a D5D) & I (in a D5C)... all while having a Lyran Wingman (L-CWLPf IIRC) and a few bases with lyran PF's supporting him?
All I really remember is all those damn PF's b/c of Dizzy's tinkering with base and planet missions.... ( think it was 16 Gorn fighters and 18 lyran PF's all told)
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"Shin" rule? Please explain.
It's something Dizzy and I were BSing about a few weeks ago. It would allow the SC of each side the ability to void 1 VC kill a server for circumstances like when a n00b foolishly looses a BB or soemthing like that. Anyone remember Risky's "Gone with the Shin" incident on SGO5?
I don't remember Risky's incident, but I certainly remember mine when Kroma suckered me into attacking his Gorn DNH on the Gorn homeworld hex when I was in the ISC BBV. DOH!! ::) Of course that happned AFTER a mission when Chuut pushed me into a planet while SUPPOSEDLY escorting me. His infamous backstab move didn't count because the mission was bugged, but it was a brief respite to say the least. :P I've certainly learned the lesson of how much attention the battleship gets once they leave the shipyard. O (and how much of an idiot I can be at times!! :o )
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"Shin" rule? Please explain.
It's something Dizzy and I were BSing about a few weeks ago. It would allow the SC of each side the ability to void 1 VC kill a server for circumstances like when a n00b foolishly looses a BB or soemthing like that. Anyone remember Risky's "Gone with the Shin" incident on SGO5?
I don't remember Risky's incident, but I certainly remember mine when Kroma suckered me into attacking his Gorn DNH on the Gorn homeworld hex when I was in the ISC BBV. DOH!! ::) Of course that happned AFTER a mission when Chuut pushed me into a planet while SUPPOSEDLY escorting me. His infamous backstab move didn't count because the mission was bugged, but it was a brief respite to say the least. :P I've certainly learned the lesson of how much attention the battleship gets once they leave the shipyard. O (and how much of an idiot I can be at times!! :o )
We all remmeber yours, but anyone who has ever scored a PvP kill would be exempt :)
I'm not really going to have this rule, it's a joke.
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If we do have battleships, which I would prefer that we didn't, to discourage BB joy-riding, could you make the BBs really expensive, with a replacement value of 50%. I don't know if the replacement ship % is a general value for all ships, or if you can set each ship individually.
My thought here is that the loss of a battleship should be devastating. Not only to the player prestige points, but to the side (VC PvP special award pts).
Just my anti-battleship thoughts. :P
I'm seriously considering a 'Shin" rule ;D
They'll be abou 100K PP
Oh you mean they will be the same cost a CAV+ then ;D
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Here's what I'm thinking so far. Basic BBs avaialble for all races which will take up say 8 points (BCH=2, DN=3, CVA=4) of the "X amount of points on at a time" system. The Klingons can field the B11K for 10 points if they choose.
10 Points is what I'm thinking the Max heavy Metal points at a time will be so fielding a BB really is putting all youe eggs in one basket. This fits with our current player population but I will reserve the right to increase this if for some reason 40 players start showing up.
I think this is a great idea. At least we can fly B11K's even if we can field only 1 at a time. ;D
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Oh, and 1 other thing. Will there be B11V's available?
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Oh, and 1 other thing. Will there be B11V's available?
No
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Ya, but how many times is the B10K gonna come back from the dead?
As many times as people have PP for it.
Hmmmm, I miss the days when if you wanted a BB or CVA or DN or whatever, it was cool as long as you had the PP for it. ;D
Go figure, Diehard loved the DNH, and I hate that thing, but give me a Fed BB and I'm in hog heaven.
Soon it will be August already, and can you believe it will have been 6 years since Canada West's "Guns of August" ??? That server lasted a long time, taking a break only when Osama got a hair up his butt one September day.
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Go figure, Diehard loved the DNH, and I hate that thing, but give me a Fed BB and I'm in hog heaven.
You actually LIKE flying a ship with a F turnmode? Do you commute in a winnebago?
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I actually had some great fights on CW in a BB, bugs and all considered. I also remember that there were only two during the whole Guns of August campaign, myself and Capt. Jeff were lucky enough to score them, and it wasn't due to PP either, for some strange reason the BBs came up rarely for the Feds, and IIRC the Klingons never had anything beyond a B10k show up in the yards.
I think everyone has ships they like and dislike, I never did get "the feel" for a DNH, and even remember when Moggy ran me off in a Rom HBC.
Of course that was nothing compared to one server where the Rom HBC was fitted out with 2 P/Fs and everyone else that had P/Fs had 4 in their HBCs, I cannot remember the name of the campaign but the Lyrans had these uber ships. Anyways, I get stuck in a heavy neb area and Soreyes is in a light cruiser of some sort, and he runs me off in my HBC! ;D I probably would not recognize half the ships anymore as I do keep up a lil bit and I know through the years major changes have been made to the shiplists.
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How about one B10 is available and if it is lost there are no more. 3 CVAs built in totla (ever) for all CVA-flying races. Once a side loses 3, edit them out of the shipyards.
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How about one B10 is available and if it is lost there are no more. 3 CVAs built in totla (ever) for all CVA-flying races. Once a side loses 3, edit them out of the shipyards.
No, I think I've come up with a system that will give the SCs some options without tuning this into BB fest. Details will be posted as soon as I figure out how to word it.