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Title: Yet another Windows browser, but this time from Apple
Post by: Death_Merchant on June 11, 2007, 02:02:54 pm

http://www.apple.com/safari/

Not sure why Apple is doing this....

and don't expect any activex happiness ......

Title: Re: Yet another Windows browser, but this time from Apple
Post by: jualdeaux on June 11, 2007, 03:51:22 pm

I'll give it a try but I'm rather sure that I'll be staying with firefox.

Title: Re: Yet another Windows browser, but this time from Apple
Post by: Nemesis on June 11, 2007, 08:34:46 pm

Quote from: Death_Merchant on June 11, 2007, 02:02:54 pm

Not sure why Apple is doing this....

Support.  To get major sites such as banks to support Safari they need more users than Apple itself currently has.  Get 5% of the Windows market and they are over the hump to being major enough that they will gain increasing support.  Hopefully the name recognition will get Safari taking market share from IE rather than Firefox.  I'd like to see each around 30%.

Safari users a variant on the same rendering engine as the Konquerer browser in the KDE windowing environment on Linux.  I wonder if Apple will make a Safari that can plug in in place of Konquerer?  Sites that support Safari are almost certain to work in Konquerer as well.  Which swells the effective market share of the duo to the total share for each.

Quote from: Death_Merchant on June 11, 2007, 02:02:54 pm

and don't expect any activex happiness ......

For which I will be thankfull if I decide to try Safari and I may well do so.

Title: Re: Yet another Windows browser, but this time from Apple
Post by: jualdeaux on June 11, 2007, 08:38:35 pm

I have been using it today and it seems to be okay. it has some trouble loading pages and letting my log in to various forums. The speed isn't bad but I can't really tell much difference from firefox in that area. And I prefer the way firefox does certain tasks and layout options.

Title: Re: Yet another Windows browser, but this time from Apple
Post by: Clark Kent on June 22, 2007, 08:16:21 pm

Any other updates on how safari 3 is working?  I've been thinking of DLing for my Dell and also for my iBook, but I was curious first to hear how it's working.

Title: Re: Yet another Windows browser, but this time from Apple
Post by: Death_Merchant on June 28, 2007, 10:14:33 am

Quote from: Clark Kent on June 22, 2007, 08:16:21 pm

Any other updates on how safari 3 is working?  I've been thinking of DLing for my Dell and also for my iBook, but I was curious first to hear how it's working.

I think the beta has seen 2-3 revs already on the windows side. Addressed security concerns and Windows behavior (like now being able to resize the window from any corner, unlike Mac behavior that allows resize only from the lower right corner).

See www.versiontracker.com/windows for posted comments/reviews

Title: Re: Yet another Windows browser, but this time from Apple
Post by: jualdeaux on June 28, 2007, 04:52:35 pm

Yeah. I have gotten the update notice from apple at least two times.

Title: Re: Yet another Windows browser, but this time from Apple
Post by: Death_Merchant on June 29, 2007, 11:04:50 am

If interested, Dave Hyatt (one of the Safari developers) keeps a rather informative blog at

http://webkit.org/blog/