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Title: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 02, 2007, 02:10:46 pm
Yeah I'm on a bit of a spree - And to be honest, I am enjoying it. But really I dont have any desire to slow down and unwrap (I HATE unwrapping). Thusly i just design something else, lol.
Anyways here is another thing I turned out real quick (about a half hour). For those of you who have played Homeworld you already know of the Kadeshi. For those of you who haven't they are a race who live in a nebula on large starships. they prey on any ships who dirty their nebula with their presence. Their designs are rather insectoid except for one: their mothership (the design of which is the direct inspiration for the CA). I decided to design a fleet around said needleship instead of the insectoid look and this is the result.

The big on is a DN, the next is the CA, the second is the CL and the last is the DD. I may sketch up a few more designs, but don't hold your breath - you know how I am.
(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4746/needlefleet01mu6.jpg)
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6082/needlefleet02wt1.jpg)
and a side ortho for shape of the DN and scale.
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5425/needlefleet03il3.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Centurus on July 02, 2007, 02:14:55 pm
Hey, turn these upright, and they'd make killer deep space starbases for the Feds.  :-D
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Norsehound on July 02, 2007, 02:20:42 pm
...Wow.

You should try waving this at the Relic people at the Relicnews forum. (http://forums.relicnews.com/forumdisplay.php?f=232") If it isn't appreciated here, it sure will be over there.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 02, 2007, 02:47:43 pm
Hey, turn these upright, and they'd make killer deep space starbases for the Feds.  :-D


This is very true.

...Wow.

You should try waving this at the Relic people at the Relicnews forum. ([url]http://forums.relicnews.com/forumdisplay.php?f=232[/url]") If it isn't appreciated here, it sure will be over there.


Thanks, I am actually posting it as we speak. Hopefully someone will be willing to texture them, if not here than there.
Anyways back to posting/spamming/modelling/singing.....
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Centurus on July 02, 2007, 02:50:41 pm
If I could texture them and map them, I would.  But I'm just a humble kitbasher.  :-(

What other killer models you got to make us drool?
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 02, 2007, 02:58:17 pm
-=inhale of breath=- I don't really know, yet.
Let me sit back and veg for a bit, and if something comes up, I'll sketch it out and post, as always. ^_^

thanks for the drool compliment - thats a high-order praise right there. thanks ^_^.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Starforce2 on July 02, 2007, 03:00:11 pm
very b5ish. if ya use them for feddie bases though they could use a bit more "meat" on them.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 02, 2007, 03:06:57 pm
I dont see the B5-ness, but okay ^_^.
-=thoughtful noise=- Yeah, I can see the Likeness to a feddie base. (mushroom base meets jupiter station, almost) but i dont think they would do a good job at it.

Anyways,
Here's a shot with some proper lighting
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4535/needlefleet04wj3.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Starforce2 on July 02, 2007, 03:40:01 pm
I dont see the B5-ness, but okay ^_^.
-=thoughtful noise=- Yeah, I can see the Likeness to a feddie base. (mushroom base meets jupiter station, almost) but i dont think they would do a good job at it.

Anyways,
Here's a shot with some proper lighting
([url]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4535/needlefleet04wj3.jpg[/url])


Well if you think about the ships from "third space". They had long needles sticking out the front of a large bulb. Also some of the first ones ships hard a large mushroom shaped rear end almost like a saucer type where the domed top was actualy the rear of the ship. The larest example is the best fit for B5 tech and ofcoruse what made me think of it. ALso my favorite outa the bunch.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 02, 2007, 03:45:36 pm
I dont see the B5-ness, but okay ^_^.
-=thoughtful noise=- Yeah, I can see the Likeness to a feddie base. (mushroom base meets jupiter station, almost) but i dont think they would do a good job at it.

Anyways,
Here's a shot with some proper lighting
([url]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4535/needlefleet04wj3.jpg[/url])


Well if you think about the ships from "third space". They had long needles sticking out the front of a large bulb. Also some of the first ones ships hard a large mushroom shaped rear end almost like a saucer type where the domed top was actualy the rear of the ship. The larest example is the best fit for B5 tech and ofcoruse what made me think of it. ALso my favorite outa the bunch.


ayt, cool. That makes sense now.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Mackie on July 02, 2007, 04:00:44 pm
Awesome dude, I always loved the way HW ships look like, especially the Kadesh :)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 02, 2007, 04:18:01 pm
Thanks Mackie ^_^

Just to let inform - I'm rebuilding the drive pods on the DN - I wasn't happy with them.
Also - keep an eye out for an older fleet of mine that I lost in a format - that I will be rehashing tonight.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Starforce2 on July 02, 2007, 05:16:51 pm
maybe try one that doesn't have a round pod?
http://www.b5tech.com/miscracesgroups/3rdspace/3rdfighter.jpg Notice the "aft" section. I blieve it had 5 "vanes" on it, and one side is cut off.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 02, 2007, 05:52:41 pm
I think that a non-radial-symmetry would deviate too much from the established design ethos. Whilst I really do find the Thirdspace aliens cool, its just not what I'm goin for this time around. Though, you give me a few ideas I might want to explore ^_^ (more the capital ship than the fighter).

I just gotta wait till it comes to me. "Too many mind" kind of thing. ("Mind sword, mind people watch, mind enemy. Too many mind. no mind.").

In other news, err, my "rehash" has hit a creative snag as well, but I will keep playing with that too.
I am off to clean my room. Physical labour always helps my creative processes ^_^.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 02, 2007, 10:57:13 pm
Battlecruiser is modelled.

Still having issues with my other project.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 03, 2007, 11:36:04 am
Burárum.

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2278/scr00004bd0.jpg)

CA, still textureless, in game for the fun of it.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 03, 2007, 12:04:55 pm
the Needle Heavy Cruiser is ready for texturing - its mapped and everything. Downloadable here http://www.symphonyinrgb.com/NeedleCA.zip

EDIT: now available - the DN: http://www.symphonyinrgb.com/NeedleDN.zip
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 05, 2007, 12:24:02 am
Mwahahahaha
A man should never be afraid of his Magentas.

(http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8988/scr00007bt3.jpg)
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2451/scr00008mj3.jpg)
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6682/scr00009oj3.jpg)

Details like Airlocks and vents still need to be added, but really I am pleased with what I have.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 05, 2007, 08:01:24 am
Okay, I had to remap a lot of stuff. So little snag - but i shouldn't be too hard to retexture.
Of course that means I need to upload a new version of the models if people are texturing them.
Sorry guys.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 05, 2007, 09:17:28 am
I think texturing is done.
Lightmaps are done - still have to make Bump and Spec maps for Starshatter.

(http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2373/needlecazw6.jpg)
(http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/1011/needleca2ua8.jpg)
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3840/needleca3rm1.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Raven Night on July 05, 2007, 10:49:16 am
Absolutely impressive. I love em :)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Smiley on July 05, 2007, 02:16:57 pm
Ditto, they are very cool, nice skins too... makes me think of a pale Dominion... oh possible space station for them then...
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Mackie on July 05, 2007, 02:35:02 pm
awesome indeed :>
one minor complaint though, am i just being picky  or does the texture look a little fuzzy? You ought to be using two 1024x1024 :>
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 05, 2007, 03:01:46 pm
Im using a 1024x1024 and a 1024x256. The needle is what the 1024x256 is, and thats because the mapping is wierd. I need to go about redoing that map, I think.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Mackie on July 05, 2007, 08:57:32 pm
Im using a 1024x1024 and a 1024x256. The needle is what the 1024x256 is, and thats because the mapping is wierd. I need to go about redoing that map, I think.
gg :>
I just realized that the fuzzyness is because of the horrid jpeg compression, could you post a pic of two that isnt/arent so compressed?
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 05, 2007, 09:52:43 pm
(http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6200/caal5.jpg)
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1359/cabc3yd9.jpg)

I'd forgotten how much Max's Jpeg Compression Algorithm sucks. These are max quality from Photoshop.
Oh, and I was wrong about the spindle size - its 1024x128.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 06, 2007, 12:58:45 am
DN is in progress.
Still need to rework the Spindles of the CA and BC.

(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/306/dninprogressjo7.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 06, 2007, 01:21:15 am
Last bit for tonight.
Dreadnought will be done tomorrow. In the mean time, I sleep, because my left eye is twitching to the point of pain.
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2899/dninprogress2im6.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Mackie on July 06, 2007, 03:30:53 am
([url]http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6200/caal5.jpg[/url])
([url]http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1359/cabc3yd9.jpg[/url])

I'd forgotten how much Max's Jpeg Compression Algorithm sucks. These are max quality from Photoshop.
Oh, and I was wrong about the spindle size - its 1024x128.

still pretty sweet tho :>
you do need to remap, rly :/ x128 are teh sux0rs
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 07, 2007, 01:53:51 am
Start with a tone, Up a full tone, Down a Major Third, Drop an octave, Up a perfect Fifth.

(http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/4528/dnny1.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 07, 2007, 02:50:53 pm
Two quick fighter craft, though they are extremely not-to-scale-like.
(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8905/fighterswa7.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: GotAFarmYet? on July 07, 2007, 06:09:52 pm
Like the outer one the best can see that as a bubble cockpit for excellent views, maybe it could be a chuttle or something as well.
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 07, 2007, 11:22:19 pm
I may do a fighter-like shuttle without the tail -=shrug=- havent thought about it yet.

They need a homebase, don't they?
(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2475/needlestarbaseiy3.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: Centurus on July 08, 2007, 05:29:28 am
I may do a fighter-like shuttle without the tail -=shrug=- havent thought about it yet.

They need a homebase, don't they?
([url]http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2475/needlestarbaseiy3.jpg[/url])


I can't say much except, WOW!!!!
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 09, 2007, 11:15:04 am
Thanks Centurus. To be honest, though, I am not looking forward to the starbase as I was with the starships - Bases are a bigger pain -=shrug=-.

Anyways,

The Dreadnought is done, the CA and BC are tweaked and completed.
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9587/needlefleetth9.jpg)
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1024/needlefleet2ky4.jpg)

And the Light Cruiser is unwrapped and textured in 1 hour.
(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2549/clpa7.jpg)
Title: Re: Another thing - Kadeshi-inspired Needlefleet.
Post by: FoaS_XC on July 09, 2007, 03:19:07 pm
Anyone hungry?
Yeah I'm havin' hotdogs for lunch, I think.
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6558/stationew3.jpg)
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2953/station2fj2.jpg)