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Title: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Garath9 on June 08, 2008, 06:38:40 am
   ok i'm back, just started doing my own mesh for a change  ;)  it's a tos rommy police/scout ship.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Terradyhne on June 08, 2008, 06:51:47 am
good start, this looks good want to see it textured  :)
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: markyd on June 08, 2008, 08:14:21 am
For your first mesh thats very good ;)
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Garath9 on June 08, 2008, 09:22:11 pm
thanx guy's i'm trying to make it all 1 piece the wing's are worked into the main hull not just poking out of it. i'm wondering what tos rommy phaser bank's look like
and where to put them any ideals. btw she's meant as an early R-SNP for OP.  loadout 1xplasmaG 2xphaser2. :)
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Rod ONeal on June 09, 2008, 02:26:57 am
She's looking pretty good! Impressive to see that you're doing it 1 piece.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: marstone on June 09, 2008, 02:29:50 am
She's looking pretty good! Impressive to see that you're doing it 1 piece.

and here I thought ships were always one piece, if you made a seperate chunk, you did a verticy weld and made it one piece. hmmmm.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Adonis on June 09, 2008, 02:34:33 am
She's looking pretty good! Impressive to see that you're doing it 1 piece.

and here I thought ships were always one piece, if you made a seperate chunk, you did a verticy weld and made it one piece. hmmmm.

Simple vert weld isn't enough I'm afraid, you need to do a boolean operation to fuse the parts to become one.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: marstone on June 09, 2008, 02:38:00 am
She's looking pretty good! Impressive to see that you're doing it 1 piece.

and here I thought ships were always one piece, if you made a seperate chunk, you did a verticy weld and made it one piece. hmmmm.

Simple vert weld isn't enough I'm afraid, you need to do a boolean operation to fuse the parts to become one.

otay, as I am just now starting to work with any meshes, I'll take you word for it, and look at you funny at the same time.

(what would a boolean operation do?  :huh:)
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Adonis on June 09, 2008, 05:01:33 am
She's looking pretty good! Impressive to see that you're doing it 1 piece.

and here I thought ships were always one piece, if you made a seperate chunk, you did a verticy weld and made it one piece. hmmmm.

Simple vert weld isn't enough I'm afraid, you need to do a boolean operation to fuse the parts to become one.

otay, as I am just now starting to work with any meshes, I'll take you word for it, and look at you funny at the same time.

(what would a boolean operation do?  :huh:)

Fuse two objects along their lines of intersection.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: marstone on June 09, 2008, 05:13:45 am
Fuse two objects along their lines of intersection.

okay, I figured that, just wondering why it would be called a boolean operation.

But I will learn more as I start my slow crawl into doing a ship or two.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Centurus on June 09, 2008, 06:06:18 am
Boolean operations aren't always necessary.  Depends if you want to make your meshes kitbasher friendly or not.  Some people make the various parts and place them together in the proper arrangement.  Simple exporting to MOD format will make the various parts as a single model, without fusing anything together.  Makes the model kitbasher friendly.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Fallen_Warrior on June 09, 2008, 02:44:12 pm
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Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Garath9 on June 09, 2008, 09:38:58 pm
OK this mesh started about a month ago as just some simple shapes in ms  thrown together and textured all in about 3hrs. by 1 piece i mean i'm reworking it
deleting the parts normally hidden and adding verts/faces as needed. hadn't thought of boolean operations. i ran an stl check found some open edge's i'll correct
then to textures as i won't be using the first set. :)
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Garath9 on June 09, 2008, 10:31:01 pm
   here's some pics of two other version's of this model made using simple shape's in Milkshape the last SFM's Paris class lightcruiser done to see how well i can model from a pic.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Adonis on June 10, 2008, 05:17:11 am
The smoothing on the paris is awful. Take much care on smoothing, it can save or ruin meshes.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Garath9 on June 10, 2008, 06:20:23 am
 
The smoothing on the paris is awful. Take much care on smoothing, it can save or ruin meshes.
     your right it is i was using this mesh in max to learn how some operations work. the optimize mesh modifier did that mess and i havn't fixed it yet. i may need to redo some of it :D
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Garath9 on June 10, 2008, 07:24:17 am
 a redo on the paris won't be needed remembered still had a copy from before i ran the optimizer on it :)
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Adonis on June 10, 2008, 07:35:23 pm
I'm still seeing errors at the back of the saucer. And also, on the nacelles, that small section where it goes down on radius, assign a different smoothing group to it.
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Garath9 on June 11, 2008, 07:14:56 am
I'm still seeing errors at the back of the saucer. And also, on the nacelles, that small section where it goes down on radius, assign a different smoothing group to it.
  thank's i'll try it, now back to the original topic i closed most of the open edges and added some connecting mesh from the nacelles to the pylons, removed those tubes from the middle of the wing's and meshed in new ones just above the nacelle's there are hardpoints there in the ui but no weapon's assigned.
should i keep them or not
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Adonis on June 11, 2008, 01:02:43 pm
I'd say keep them, but you could atleast fuse the mesh into one, seamless object.  ::)
Title: Re: My first mesh btw i'm back
Post by: Garath9 on June 11, 2008, 02:17:32 pm
thank's adonis, and after rereading my last post i think i need to apologise the "back to the original topic" remark was meant more at myself, not you.