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Taldrenites => Dynaverse II Experiences => Topic started by: Slider on July 01, 2008, 07:08:22 pm
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July 1st 2008 8:00pm
Anyone up for a couple of fun games?
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I should be available some time within the next hour.
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Excellent, I'll be on TS playing Mohaa or something in the mean time.
As long as the wife permits that is.... :P
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We just did an AWESOME 3v3 at 200 Late. Got to fly with 3 guys I've never flown with before (icop-Freddy, FedEx-MasterZen, Voidwar) and I got to kill an I-CAZ in a G-BCH!
I think I found my new home . . .
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Yea good games. Hopefully they willl get better and better.
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I had some fun.. me and knighstrom got to trade blows ;)
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I think the population of "450 ADV" crowd is low enough that we can take over. I'll be back tomorrow.
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You guys mind if I join in a game or two? I go by "Roychipoqua" on GSA.
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You guys mind if I join in a game or two? I go by "Roychipoqua" on GSA.
All are welcome
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You guys mind if I join in a game or two? I go by "Roychipoqua" on GSA.
Thanks for helping me kick the asses of those 2 smacktards. ;D I give them a 0 for the number of internals they scored on us in the 175 late match.
I love this, 8 years after the game comes out the l33t players still whine like girls when they get schooled. This is why I never bothered with league play.
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You guys mind if I join in a game or two? I go by "Roychipoqua" on GSA.
Thanks for helping me kick the asses of those 2 smacktards. ;D I give them a 0 for the number of internals they scored on us in the 175 late match.
I love this, 8 years after the game comes out the l33t players still whine like girls when they get schooled. This is why I never bothered with league play.
That was a riot! Don't know what the big deal was, oh well :D. I love to run. The other games were a lot of fun also.
It was crazy tonight, I believe 22 people total at one point. Good time.
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Games tonight were great. This is what playing this game should be about. Now, we just need some more folks involved to start the great new PvP movement.
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Well I had lots of fun as well, I'll try to get on GSA more.. :D
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I'll be on tomorrow for more (unless the hommies call with last minute plans). With the exception of the two smacktards (who's names I'll gladly call out for being bitches) it was a blast.
I'd rather play with Dynaverse people anyway. Even at our worst flaming of each other we always keep it civil on the battlefield.
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Hrmmm... Looks like I might have to login...
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it was fun... 23 woot. Its gotta be some kinda record for at this point in time ;). Now if my damn interent wasn't so ficky
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Hrmmm... Looks like I might have to login...
Yeah Dizzy, you need to make an appearance. Your "suicide flying" style would have meshed with our playing style greatly. ;D :angel:
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Hrmmm... Looks like I might have to login...
Oh man, you show up tomorrow I'll definitely be there.
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lots of suicidal multiple Gorn hook chains of tractors one game :D
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You guys mind if I join in a game or two? I go by "Roychipoqua" on GSA.
Thanks for helping me kick the asses of those 2 smacktards. ;D I give them a 0 for the number of internals they scored on us in the 175 late match.
I love this, 8 years after the game comes out the l33t players still whine like girls when they get schooled. This is why I never bothered with league play.
"Jane you ignorant slut"
~ Dan Aykroyd
I'm a former league player, what are you really saying DH? :)
Your lumping an aweful lot of really decent players in that "whiney girls" comment. And trust me getting schooled for a true leaguer is only incentive for getting the rust off and/or playing better.
The league(s) were a large community of people with different personalities and styles. That included guys from teams like KHH and FSD which have players in Dyna now. Trust me when I say that the lobby rats that remain today are not representative of the type or quality of players that we had say 5 years ago.
The people I ran with loved the game as much non-leaguers and always strove to have as much fun as possible. Most of our games were not league games "Fun Games". Pretty much what we've been doing for the past few days. The league was an event like servers are to Hex Flippers. But as with any competative sport the game brings out the best and the worst in us. Most people only remember the worst.
regards,
Slider
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I tried last night but my router isn't quite configured correctly for GSA lobby games. Anyone know whet else I need to do other than add to my routers port forward section the 8 or so ports from the GSA help section ? I have no desire to set my router to DMZ as it didn't work right with TDU and I hate to reconfigure this mess every time I decide to play a different game online.
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You guys mind if I join in a game or two? I go by "Roychipoqua" on GSA.
Thanks for helping me kick the asses of those 2 smacktards. ;D I give them a 0 for the number of internals they scored on us in the 175 late match.
I love this, 8 years after the game comes out the l33t players still whine like girls when they get schooled. This is why I never bothered with league play.
"Jane you ignorant slut"
~ Dan Aykroyd
I'm a former league player, what are you really saying DH? :)
Your lumping an aweful lot of really decent players in that "whiney girls" comment. And trust me getting schooled for a true leaguer is only incentive for getting the rust off and/or playing better.
The league(s) were a large community of people with different personalities and styles. That included guys from teams like KHH and FSD which have players in Dyna now. Trust me when I say that the lobby rats that remain today are not representative of the type or quality of players that we had say 5 years ago.
The people I ran with loved the game as much non-leaguers and always strove to have as much fun as possible. Most of our games were not league games "Fun Games". Pretty much what we've been doing for the past few days. The league was an event like servers are to Hex Flippers. But as with any competative sport the game brings out the best and the worst in us. Most people only remember the worst.
regards,
Slider
I wasn't inferring all League players were like that, I just haven't heard anyone whine about Saberdancing/Plasma ballet in years and it blind-sided me. In D2, the fights are NOT fair yet now you almost never hear anyone complain when they get killed/run-off and you always get a GG.
These two players, SDLKSJDLSKDSLKJSLDJSLDI'll specifically called them out so as not to insult anyone else) had no sportsmanship at all. We had nearly identical ships in an BPV matched fleet (I-CW, K-DWL versus I-CW, Some kind of Lyran NCA). We crippled one and he alt'd out, the other flew off the map moaning the entire time. They had not scored and internal on me or Mace, neither of us had flow together before and we weren't on Voice comms, they were. Mace and I were gracious, no smack talk at all during the game.
That said, everyone else was cool. I just won't fly with these smacktards again.
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I tried last night but my router isn't quite configured correctly for GSA lobby games. Anyone know whet else I need to do other than add to my routers port forward section the 8 or so ports from the GSA help section ? I have no desire to set my router to DMZ as it didn't work right with TDU and I hate to reconfigure this mess every time I decide to play a different game online.
I'll be on tonight and can help you find the right ports to open. Due to my line of work, I can also connect to machines (temporary via Pin number) and make the changes for you while you watch.
Slider
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DH, I just didnt want all GSA players being lumped in with the 340 adv crowd. I agree the more players that play fun games the better the community will be. Fun meaning not some rigged BPV where only one guy gets a good ship.
We'll have a group hug later. :)
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Adv era blows... late era and late era x is fine with me. Glad to see some of ya playing on GSA....
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You guys mind if I join in a game or two? I go by "Roychipoqua" on GSA.
Thanks for helping me kick the asses of those 2 smacktards. ;D I give them a 0 for the number of internals they scored on us in the 175 late match.
I love this, 8 years after the game comes out the l33t players still whine like girls when they get schooled. This is why I never bothered with league play.
"Jane you ignorant slut"
~ Dan Aykroyd
I'm a former league player, what are you really saying DH? :)
Your lumping an aweful lot of really decent players in that "whiney girls" comment. And trust me getting schooled for a true leaguer is only incentive for getting the rust off and/or playing better.
The league(s) were a large community of people with different personalities and styles. That included guys from teams like KHH and FSD which have players in Dyna now. Trust me when I say that the lobby rats that remain today are not representative of the type or quality of players that we had say 5 years ago.
The people I ran with loved the game as much non-leaguers and always strove to have as much fun as possible. Most of our games were not league games "Fun Games". Pretty much what we've been doing for the past few days. The league was an event like servers are to Hex Flippers. But as with any competative sport the game brings out the best and the worst in us. Most people only remember the worst.
regards,
Slider
I wasn't inferring all League players were like that, I just haven't heard anyone whine about Saberdancing/Plasma ballet in years and it blind-sided me. In D2, the fights are NOT fair yet now you almost never hear anyone complain when they get killed/run-off and you always get a GG.
These two players, KrownElf and iCop-Freddy (I'll specifically called them out so as not to insult anyone else) had no sportsmanship at all. We had nearly identical ships in an BPV matched fleet (I-CW, K-DWL versus I-CW, Some kind of Lyran NCA). We crippled one and he alt'd out, the other flew off the map moaning the entire time. They had not scored and internal on me or Mace, neither of us had flow together before and we weren't on Voice comms, they were. Mace and I were gracious, no smack talk at all during the game.
That said, everyone else was cool. I just won't fly with these smacktards again.
I've flown with them before, and while Freddy can be a bit termpramental, they are not that bad. They at least aren't a part of the 450 adv crowd, although they do seem to have a taste for heavier metal than I'ld really want to fly.
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Im on...
Played just a single game and it was really good... And at the end before it was decisive, my isp dropped my connect... damn. Sorry guys.
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Good to see you back, Dizzy.
And to all in this thread, I know GSA is a good gathering place, but the thing is very dodgy. Now, Bonk went to the trouble of doing this SFC Direct thing that will allow us to create rooms just like GSA and launch them just like GSA but hopefully without it sucking like GSA does.
Get this file:
http://www.dynaverse.net/sfcdirect/sfcdirect_setup.exe
and run it.
Then go to this site:
http://www.dynaverse.net/sfcdirect
And you will find things like a lovely chat server, the ability to create games and launch them, a player list, and a mod selector built into the interface.
I think we should really consider using this service as a base of operations and set aside GSA's odd behaviors.
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Just logged on to sfc direct. Anyone on to give it a go with me?
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SFC Direct still needs work. It isn't 100%. I urge you to try it, but don't think it is issue free.
Sorry I had to leave so abrupty last night. Had a small emergency to deal with.
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I wasn't inferring all League players were like that,
Inferring is how YOU take things, Implying is how YOU mean them
Slider was inferring, you were implying...or not ;)
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I wasn't inferring all League players were like that,
Inferring is how YOU take things, Implying is how YOU mean them
Slider was inferring, you were implying...or not ;)
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Klingons aren't supposed to be lawyers!!!
My cable went out last night, I could have played until like 3 AM. GRRRRHHHHHH!!!!!!
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do you all play with the OP+ shiplist?
I got done playing OP for an hour...the first 30 minutes were trying to figure out the hot keys.....
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Tearin it up with slider right now...
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Lepton, sorry for yelling at you in that 3v3. I get over-competitive and try to win always, even in a fight that doesn't matter.
BTW, we won!!!! :D
The film is over 1.3 MB in size, let me know if you want it and I'll email it to you.
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Fun stuff yesterday. That 50 minute 3v3 that ended in an I-CW fight between DH and Tans was a very good game!
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Now I just need to re-learn the basic rules of flying...
I have the distiniction of dieing in the first 10 minutes of that 50 minute fight...
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Starlog July 5th 2008.
Another good night of games. gg to all of you who played.
Sometimes we were the windshileds other times we were the bugs.
Cheers
Slidey
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jUST HAD A CPL GREAT GAMES WITH dh. oops caps. Our GSA competition proved not to take a liking to rocks. Twice. <snicker>
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We need 1 more player on GSA. Its me corbo DH and Reffet...
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jUST HAD A CPL GREAT GAMES WITH dh. oops caps. Our GSA competition proved not to take a liking to rocks. Twice. <snicker>
Dizzy, let's have some fun tonight and fly nothing but Mirak!!! :D
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Me and DH are on... come join us!
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So we survived our first 427 ADV fight yesterday. It ain't easy being cheesy. Whoever designed these X-ships needs to have their head examined, they are WAY under BPVd and not even close to balanced accross the races. Seriously, if I had paid attention (or cared) about this years ago I'm sure my getting banned on the Taldren boards would have happened much earlier. :D
That said, it was still fun. The good part about the X fights is they usually don't take that long so you can get back to a "real" fight soon enough.
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I think I'm finally a "real GSA player." I got my first accusation of cheating last night! After all this time, it's good to feel included ;D
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Ah-ha! What happened?
I was P-O'd after dropping halfway through the asteroid 3v3 but we didn't have much chance on that one.
The 3v3 planet match with Tus in a KE and points at 150-175-200 was nasty fun too. The idea of having different BPVs is refreshing, almost like a fleet feel to it. Might be fun to try something like 100-200-100, and each side use only one race. Could be restrictive and not all players would like that, but if it were organized ahead of time with people who wouldn't mind all flying Fed, for example, it would be interesting.
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Yeah, those stepped bpv fights were really cool. I thought about adding a traditional Alliance restriction to race choice, but thought better of it because of our current player group probably notr grasping that concept. I'll try it again tonight and we can try that. The players in GSA are so far a fairly flexible group of peeps.
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Ah-ha! What happened?
I was accused of having "magic shields" when a Klink X2 ship wasn't able to tear me apart at range through a 2 shift. I found it quite entertaining.
The 3v3 planet match with Tus in a KE and points at 150-175-200 was nasty fun too. The idea of having different BPVs is refreshing, almost like a fleet feel to it. Might be fun to try something like 100-200-100, and each side use only one race. Could be restrictive and not all players would like that, but if it were organized ahead of time with people who wouldn't mind all flying Fed, for example, it would be interesting.
You would have loved PBR. Team BPV and fleeting rules as close to S8 as possible within the context of a 3 ship fleet. The Step-BPV approach works nice like this and is simple enough for people to do on the fly.
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The annoying thing with PBR...even within the limits of that, everybody still took the best damn thing they could still get for the BPV.
Nobody takes a D6B over a D5, a DD+ over a DW, a CA+ over an NCA.
Anyway - the total BPV break-out was always fun, even without PBR. Split 400 or whatever over 3 guys, but not locked into a set BPV for any one guy...
KHH used to always like the "2 + POS" approach - 2 good ships and then getting something ridiculous for the 3rd guy...like an E4 or something thing absolutely disposable.
What was funny, is the disposable ship could often get a couple decent licks in on a down shield, as it was ignored in favor of the good ships.
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Nobody takes a D6B over a D5, a DD+ over a DW, a CA+ over an NCA.
That's because of the era breakdowns being so broad.
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With a decent group of gsa players, I've called games on stardate years. That's always fun too.
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Ah-ha! What happened?
I was P-O'd after dropping halfway through the asteroid 3v3 but we didn't have much chance on that one.
The 3v3 planet match with Tus in a KE and points at 150-175-200 was nasty fun too.
We were remarking on voice comms that you were a very competent player. Didnt know it was u, Mace... ;)
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Corbo and I are on GSA... come join us.
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Ah-ha! What happened?
I was P-O'd after dropping halfway through the asteroid 3v3 but we didn't have much chance on that one.
The 3v3 planet match with Tus in a KE and points at 150-175-200 was nasty fun too. The idea of having different BPVs is refreshing, almost like a fleet feel to it. Might be fun to try something like 100-200-100, and each side use only one race. Could be restrictive and not all players would like that, but if it were organized ahead of time with people who wouldn't mind all flying Fed, for example, it would be interesting.
That was an interesting one.... the only reason i survived as long as I did in the ship i had is cause i'm a cloaking bastard... what can I say ;)
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Thanks, Dizzy. After last night, I learned that the things I need to work on are flying more aggressively and winging better. A question: if a plasma ship is covering a striker (like a Klingon), does the Klingon move a little ahead of the plasma wingman or the other way around?
Tus's strategy was pretty cool, I've never seen it used before. Plasma can play keep-away with the other side, and the slow Romulan can cloak if the other team shoots torps at it.
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Thanks, Dizzy. After last night, I learned that the things I need to work on are flying more aggressively and winging better. A question: if a plasma ship is covering a striker (like a Klingon), does the Klingon move a little ahead of the plasma wingman or the other way around?
That depends on whether or not PPD is involved in the fight (which seems to always be the case unless we do 199 Late) and what they other ships are. Last nights battle of the CCYs, you had to fly as the "Gunline" which means the Klink and Gorn should have been a bit ahead of my CCY on most battle passes. When flying Eschelon the primary goal of the Gunline should be to set the "PPD" ship (Photon-buckets work as well, Fed+Gorm=ISC) up for it's shots. Maneuverable plasma ships (I-CLZ, I-CW, G-BF, R-SUK) are best in this role but any can do the job if they have to. The Gunline needs to be slightly ahead of the PPD ship in order to protect it and setup shots, the Gunline is expendable.
What was interesting about that 3v3 (besides my screaming at Dizzy for going "leroy jenkins" too early) was that we both had a CCY as a flagship. There is no viable strategy for beating a PPD-based fleet that doesn't involve constant chasing of the PPD ship. We pretty much both had to chase each other which is why it got so brutal and everyone was beat to hell before it was over.
Tus's strategy was pretty cool, I've never seen it used before. Plasma can play keep-away with the other side, and the slow Romulan can cloak if the other team shoots torps at it.
Tus is a master of the duck-and-cover, I think he beat me 5of6 fights when we did a bunch of 1v1 battles the other night.
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20+ people tonight. That's more that we can get on D2 server. If more of "us" show up on a regular basis and gear the next D2 towards PvP, we may even be able to salvage a playerbase!
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Damn i missed it. But Journey to the center of the earth was pretty fun in 3D
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I had a goood time last night, was real fun. hope we get more on tonight !!!
Your SFC Community Angel :angel:
DIFJosh
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what ship and fighter list is used on GSA, might have to pop in
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what ship and fighter list is used on GSA, might have to pop in
OP+ 4.0
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This has been bugging the crap out of me. WTF do people castle against R-torps in GSA? D2ers don't because we're used to a faster game because of available drone upgrades and Attrition units. I've seen so much dumb WW usage in recent weeks on GSA that it's hysterical. Who drops a WW for one torp with a Killerhawk parked 15 away? :smackhead:
Funniest Quote of yesterday was when a Gorn in a G-CCX got hit by a Speed 16 drone and complained to me because I had turned off my AMD. He said "I have ZERO drone defense." Um, Phasers? It's got like 13 Phaser Xs which work fine for PD if you turn off the overloads.
I'm finding the X1 ships play really well at the BPVs they have in OP+, I think our "XXX late no-X" standard should just be "xxx late." None of the X-cruisers are OTT for their BPV compared to monsters like the KHK and CCZ.
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Funniest Quote of yesterday was when a Gorn in a G-CCX got hit by a Speed 16 drone and complained to me because I had turned off my AMD. He said "I have ZERO drone defense." Um, Phasers? It's got like 13 Phaser Xs which work fine for PD if you turn off the overloads.
Actually, he has a point. You're his wingman and you are supposed to cover him. He does have no PD. He has offensive weaponry that can be used defensively if needed, but that is not the preferred usage. You wouldn't use PH-1's as PD unless you have to would you? The stage 1 X-Ships are really retarded that way.
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Funniest Quote of yesterday was when a Gorn in a G-CCX got hit by a Speed 16 drone and complained to me because I had turned off my AMD. He said "I have ZERO drone defense." Um, Phasers? It's got like 13 Phaser Xs which work fine for PD if you turn off the overloads.
Actually, he has a point. You're his wingman and you are supposed to cover him. He does have no PD. He has offensive weaponry that can be used defensively if needed, but that is not the preferred usage. You wouldn't use PH-1's as PD unless you have to would you? The stage 1 X-Ships are really retarded that way.
Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD. Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly. Anyone's who's ever fought me knows I always turn my AMD off except when I intend on getting within range 8.
You are right though about the X1 ships. In SFB the Phaser 1s could be fired in "rapid pulse" mode which would let each Ph1 be fired as 2 Ph3 for PD. This obviously doesn't translate and is worth talking about. I'll have to check how many free hardpoints are available on each ship and maybe add a GAT or 2 on the non G-Rack ships.
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Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD.
Of course... in a pinch. I've used Attack Probes to shoot down Drones, but I'm not going to use it as a general tactic.
Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly. Anyone's who's ever fought me knows I always turn my AMD off except when I intend on getting within range 8.
Why do you always assume everyone knows what you are going to do? Why do you always assume everyone does what you do? Why do you always assume everyone agrees with what you do? Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! :P :-*
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what I thought, but wanted to make sure before I tried to jump in a game.
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Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! :P :-*
They should dammit!
You read my thoughts, I've gotten used to that.
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Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! :P :-*
They should dammit!
You read my thoughts, I've gotten used to that.
No, no. That's called making up for your shortcomings!
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Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! :P :-*
They should dammit!
You read my thoughts, I've gotten used to that.
No, no. That's called making up for your shortcomings!
My only shortcoming would be having Hexx as a Wingman! :D
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Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! :P :-*
They should dammit!
You read my thoughts, I've gotten used to that.
Hahaha...
Actually he does communicate his intentions, and if you're familiar with the race (well I only really have flown fed wing to him) usually you know what's coming by charge of weapon state and AOA to the enemy for exception of the random stuff he does to throw people off.
You guys kill me though... I'm probably ruining a joke to even reply.... :drinkinsong:
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Damn, now I'm itching to get on too. Bastards!!!! Outmanuevered....
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I've seen so much dumb WW usage in recent weeks on GSA that it's hysterical. Who drops a WW for one torp with a Killerhawk parked 15 away? :smackhead:
Are you sure its intentional? One problem I keep coming into with regards to WWs, is that I keep accidentally hitting W, when I mean to hit S. Its reached the point where I don't load WWs, unless I'm planning a maneuver which requires them.
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Never know.
Honestly, a D2 pilot rarely flies like a GSA one. Different loadout usually, different mindset...
Man I always considered ww's death except for planned maneuvers or when I'm facing loads of drone/plasma fighters. Then they're a lifeboat on the Titanic in certain circumstances...
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Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD. Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly.
Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.
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Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD. Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly.
Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.
EVERY D2 pilot has MUCH better drone defense skills than what I've seen the last 2 weeks on GSA
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Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD. Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly.
Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.
actually isn't it, you set it up so the opponent gets swamped with drones (not hope he does).
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Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD. Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly.
Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.
EVERY D2 pilot has MUCH better drone defense skills than what I've seen the last 2 weeks on GSA
Unless you're flying heavy metal, you rarely face an opponent with more than 2 racks on GSA, and you're almost always going up against slow drones, so you don't need to conserve AMD. If I don't think I'm going to need them later, I don't turn them off so my phasers are ready when I want to fire.
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Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD. Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly.
Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.
actually isn't it, you set it up so the opponent gets swamped with drones (not hope he does).
with slow drones? No very likely, only time you hit somebody is if they are already crippled or parked. Relying on drones in GSA PvP is just not a good idea.
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If you are covering a wing who is going slower than the drones you are facing (I don't care what the reason or how "stupid" you think they are) you had better have your PD set to ON or you're the dumbass and a poor wing. Losing a ship, for any reason, will probably lose you the battle. If your wing is flying poorly in your estimation it is up to you to make up for it, not help lose the fight.
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If you are covering a wing who is going slower than the drones you are facing (I don't care what the reason or how "stupid" you think they are) you had better have your PD set to ON or you're the dumbass and a poor wing. Losing a ship, for any reason, will probably lose you the battle. If your wing is flying poorly in your estimation it is up to you to make up for it, not help lose the fight.
Um, we won the fight. And since when can't you blaim your wingman for loosing? :D
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If you are covering a wing who is going slower than the drones you are facing (I don't care what the reason or how "stupid" you think they are) you had better have your PD set to ON or you're the dumbass and a poor wing. Losing a ship, for any reason, will probably lose you the battle. If your wing is flying poorly in your estimation it is up to you to make up for it, not help lose the fight.
Um, we won the fight. And since when can't you blaim your wingman for loosing? :D
Congratulations. You made up for his shortcomings! :P
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What is the real point of taking a ship into a GSA match based on point defense? Speed and a little turning will lose any slow drones, and plasma isn't much of a threat as long as the speed is high and one remembers not to come in at too steep an angle.
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What is the real point of taking a ship into a GSA match based on point defense? Speed and a little turning will lose any slow drones, and plasma isn't much of a threat as long as the speed is high and one remembers not to come in at too steep an angle.
Tell that to the guys that fly around leisurely at speed 15 like they're out for a Sunday drive.
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What is the real point of taking a ship into a GSA match based on point defense? Speed and a little turning will lose any slow drones, and plasma isn't much of a threat as long as the speed is high and one remembers not to come in at too steep an angle.
You and I think/fly alike. A lot of players Castle in situations that I just find to be insane (multiple plasma opponents, against Fed ships that can hold overloads at high-speed, etc . . .). Only thing I did like this recently was castle an G-BCH successfully against an I-CAZ. In 1v1 you can get away with stuff like that but against multiple ships it can just get too hairy.
By the way, we had 20 people last night as well. More than a D2 can draw these days. I wonder if these guys can be talked into some typr of campaign . . .
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Wow, seriously... start recruiting 'em!
Post next night you guys plan on doing GSA will you? I want to get in on some of this :)
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Post next night you guys plan on doing GSA will you? I want to get in on some of this :)
people are on everynight.
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On gsa right now doing some battles.
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On gsa right now doing some battles.
Last night was a first; a 3-way free for all when nobody won. 2v2v1, 175 Late but we gave Dizzy 509 because he was by himself and I felt like giving him a billion points. Team all gets killed, Team B is me and Corbo. I'm crippled, down to like 6 power in an I-CW. Corbo's F-NAE get's pushed off the map but Dizzy's Pirate BB but not before soring a lot of damage with his Gats . . .
So here I am alone, crippled against a badly wounded BB. Dizzy drops about 45 t-bombs on top of me and decides to run me over. The resulting explosion kills both of us!
Is it me or did DIF-Josh get a lot better over the past year? He flew that 195 late fight nearly perfect.
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You missed the best one later when Dizzy and I did a 2v3 where Dizzy tractored two of the other team into rocks.
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Im on right now...! And yeah, last night was a hoot. Crazy games... Had some cool 3v2's as well.
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I went 2-2 with this baddass Hydran last night. I can't remember his name but he was good (The_void? Something with a V). We gotta get this guy in as a regular.
175 Late: H-CHCn (me) H-CHY. I won this one. I thought it was funny that we both took Hydyan.
199 Late: G-BCH (me) H-SUI. I lost! We both managed to crippled each other in an exchange and I killed his fighters. Suicide Fusions at the end killed me.
199 Late: F-BCF(me) versus Some Beast-rider CVS that was pretty much a Hydran with drones: I won this one but was cirppled at the end.
250 Late: F-DNL (me) versus H-OS (Speed 31 III Helebore fighters) I lost! Now I don't feel bad for killing Deadman on AOTK4 in the same fight! ;D He mad his first pass with the fighters out, I used my firepower on them and not the OS so he pretty much got a free range 0 Shot. The next 20 minute was us trading Proxy and helebore shots (hard to chase somebody down when you at 41 power in a DN) which eventually lead to suicide fusions in my rectum (rectum, killed 'em!). VGG
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His name is The Vang.
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GG's last night again.
I remember once in a 3v3, I was flying an I-CCZ and Vang had this Pirate DN. Out of nowhere, he swooped in and hit my previously undamaged ship with overloaded hellbores. My engines dropped from 44 to 7! :o
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His name is The Vang.
Thanks, it was late and I was too tired to remember. He's a REAL Hydran, very rare to find somebody these days who really know what they are dong in those ships. Doesn't just rely on fighters but uses every part of his ship as he should.
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His name is The Vang.
Thanks, it was late and I was too tired to remember. He's a REAL Hydran, very rare to find somebody these days who really know what they are dong in those ships. Doesn't just rely on fighters but uses every part of his ship as he should.
Why do you think I fly the Hydran boats w/o fighters?
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Some of the FEDX players last night thought that a race v. race match would be interesting, and I think it would be too. It could especially work well with stepped BPV as well, assuming a six player match.
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Lotsa peeps on.
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Lotsa peeps on.
Had a match against Tus today. We fired potshots at eachother or 30 minutes before he dropped. Anyone who says the OP cloak is worthless should fly against him. I guarantee you'll want to SD just to end it.
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I guarantee you'll want to SD just to end it.
*snicker* ;D
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I just muff dived straight into a planet with my I-XCB. :screwloose:
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I've been unable to get on my computer here for about a week, I'm mostly settled back in though, so I should be on GSA again tomorrow night :D
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Had a gg with Dib a min ago. Flew a CB vs a Fd7K or was it an FDW? Been a while since I played a straight up match with a Fed vs a Klink. gg
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Sorry about last night guys. My modem turned off and wouldn't reboot for nearly an hour. Not sure whether it was me or my ISP.
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Using OP+ 4.0 for this, or a campaign shiplist?
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Using OP+ 4.0 for this, or a campaign shiplist?
GSA is OP+ 4.0
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I'm online.
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Great games tonight everyone, had lots of fun :D
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Yeah... some of those games reminded me of the great D2 fights of yesteryear. I heard DH over TS gushing about how GSA was so awesome and such compared to D2 fights... but one thing I didnt point out was that GSA fights, while fun and convenient, lack that imminent and unnerving feeling you have of losing your ship on the D2 which counts for something greater than just the single throw away matches that have little meaning other than instant gratification... I prefer D2 where the fights have consequences far beyond just a gg... Not the same feeling and attachment on GSA. Sure it's fun... but I feel so detached. I'll take D2 over GSA anyday.
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Thats why they are called Fun games Dizzy. :P
League games had that intensity your missing. fighting battles for months then trying to beat out your rival or top team for first down to the last minute. Fedx vs KHH and 3rd Fleet vs MoK come to mind as intense down to admins telling the players to stop fighting the ladder was over. (sounds like some D2s I've been on) Figuring out people ships skills and tactics like 3rd Phoenix's Star Castle, or Jacoby's C7 SSAssix Gorn or GTs Peetie and Wild Weasels Hydran Creep. You had universally good pilots and guys that were nearly unbeatable in certain ships.
This game over the years has lended itself to all kinds of games. Casual (hang out people), Fun Gamers, Leaguers, D2s. I just dont compare them, they are all variations on a theme.
Thing about GSA games is there is no break in PvP and invariably players begin to learn other players tendencies and the games get better over time. Games evolve and get more challenging as peoples tactics vs (insert name) gain greater understanding. They learn to fly not only against the ship your in but against the pilot in the ship or sometimes inspite of the ship. lol
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Yeah... some of those games reminded me of the great D2 fights of yesteryear. I heard DH over TS gushing about how GSA was so awesome and such compared to D2 fights... but one thing I didnt point out was that GSA fights, while fun and convenient, lack that imminent and unnerving feeling you have of losing your ship on the D2 which counts for something greater than just the single throw away matches that have little meaning other than instant gratification... I prefer D2 where the fights have consequences far beyond just a gg... Not the same feeling and attachment on GSA. Sure it's fun... but I feel so detached. I'll take D2 over GSA anyday.
Yeah, D2 fights have greater meaning... they mean you lost the hex to Drone cruisers while you were "wasting your time" fighting a human. ::)
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Yeah, D2 fights have greater meaning... they mean you lost the hex to Drone cruisers while you were "wasting your time" fighting a human. ::)
lol
Yeah, we need PvP scripts to give 2 or 3 DV shifts instead of 1. That'd fix that. ED?
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Great games tonight everyone, had lots of fun :D
Me too.. haha, boy do I have some serious repolishing to do though... hope you guys can be patient while I find my old stride.
I knew I was in trouble when I started making stupid ship choices. Someone saying 175 late just doesn't bring up a listing of what I should take anymore in my head.
I'll work on it :police:
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its real nice having 20 + peeps on GSA and games 2v2 3v3 easier come by . I know im having a blast and sharpening up my skills faster, now if i could trounce Dizzy or Die Hard that would just be too SWEET!!! hehehe
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Yeah... some of those games reminded me of the great D2 fights of yesteryear. I heard DH over TS gushing about how GSA was so awesome and such compared to D2 fights... but one thing I didnt point out was that GSA fights, while fun and convenient, lack that imminent and unnerving feeling you have of losing your ship on the D2 which counts for something greater than just the single throw away matches that have little meaning other than instant gratification... I prefer D2 where the fights have consequences far beyond just a gg... Not the same feeling and attachment on GSA. Sure it's fun... but I feel so detached. I'll take D2 over GSA anyday.
D2 has become work, GSA is fun. I get what you're saying though, the GSA battles are like playing poker with no money. When the stakes are higher, so is the sweet taste of the victory.
This is why I want to do some kind of turn-based war with regulated ship production and PvP the primary objective. This way we can have PvP that means something.
More people show up on GSA each night than we had on the last D2 server. That has to say something.
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Yeah, D2 fights have greater meaning... they mean you lost the hex to Drone cruisers while you were "wasting your time" fighting a human. ::)
lol
Yeah, we need PvP scripts to give 2 or 3 DV shifts instead of 1. That'd fix that. ED?
10 to 1, I'm serious. From what I recall this isn't possible, hopefully I'm wrong.
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15 peeps on right now...
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15 peeps on right now...
should be easy combat, I wouldn't think marshmallow birds would be a tough opponent
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15 peeps on right now...
should be easy combat, I wouldn't think marshmallow birds would be a tough opponent
wha?
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15 peeps on right now...
should be easy combat, I wouldn't think marshmallow birds would be a tough opponent
wha?
A peep, a marshmallow bird candy, comes in different colors. . . .
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explodes in microwaves :)
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explodes in microwaves :)
Yeah, those things.
I find it funny that people type peeps instead of people, whoo saved a whole one keystroke there. Wow.
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I dont get it.
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I dont get it.
Okay, I will type real slow for you.
A peep is a marshmallow candy in the shape of a bird, usually buy them around Easter. Some people enjoy putting them in the microwave as they really puff up big and explode the package they are in. So, a marshmallow bird wouldn't be much of a fight on GSA, They would just sit on your keyboard. (with 15 peeps on GSA the enemy would be a pushover).
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Not THAT. The thinly disguised slight about it being easy. Are you mocking me because im disagreeing with you about fast AI drones? OMG get over it!
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Not THAT. The thinly disguised slight about it being easy. Are you mocking me because im disagreeing with you about fast AI drones? OMG get over it!
NO, has nothing to do with fast drones. Was just a simple joke that a peep couldn't put up much of a fight. (they happen to be my wifes favorite treat so it came to mind)
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Not THAT. The thinly disguised slight about it being easy. Are you mocking me because im disagreeing with you about fast AI drones? OMG get over it!
NO, has nothing to do with fast drones. Was just a simple joke that a peep couldn't put up much of a fight.
Heck I have been wanting to get on GSA for awhile, Has been years, but I work nights so am here or sleeping when the group in on it.
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15 peeps on right now...
should be easy combat, I wouldn't think marshmallow birds would be a tough opponent
Now still a joke just because you want to see a thinly vieled slight over the ai drones
Should be easy combat, I wouldn't think marshmallow birds would be a tough opponent. Unless they had fast drones.
Now chuckle, and lets move on and have fun playing a game.
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Had some awesome games of 3v3 tonight. One came down to the wire... Better luck next time DH. ;P
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*sighs* If only I could have powered up an attack probe after I became crippled ;)
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Tus just slammed my C7 into a rock with his BCG in an awesome roid-field fight. I'm very impressed with Tus' skill and improvement to his game. GJ Tus.
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Tus just slammed my C7 into a rock with his BCG in an awesome roid-field fight. I'm very impressed with Tus' skill and improvement to his game. GJ Tus.
That was an awesome match... I was all jittery afterwards ;).
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So what time are most of these fights, seems like they are around 9ish central? Got to get on and let myself get pummeled a few times.
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7-12 central.
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7-12 central.
will have to try and get on one of these day, but sleep from 4 or so 'til 9:30 go to work at 10:00 pm to 6am. I kind of miss it. But friday is a posibility.
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Just smoked an advanced player on his terms. Called for 466 Adv and he picked a F-X3 ship. I got a DF and a XDG and whooped his ass, lol.
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I had the honor of flying with somebody more high-strung that me. Picture me on crack after a triple-espresso. Funny thing is that as soon as he died, we won the match ;D
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Nice to see this..
- After the last 8 years that i play this game (sfcII, OP) and I had experience of playing the following:
- mplayer(i think that was the name) and gsa: leagues, tourneys, campaigns and fun games
- Dynaverse campaigns
I can say that everything had their fun and gave me some very very good battles with people from all starfleet command community.
- I can admit that most of them that almost gave me a heart attack were in dynaverse campaigns as loosing a game might cost the team a good ship or the skill of the pilots was so high that battle was depended in small details.
- However, gsa was always there to provide you even a good battle through just random team fun games.
- Of course I never understood why most of the people from both communities were so negative to an alternative sfc experience
- The PBR leagues though, brought the two communities closer and it is very satisfying to come back after all this time and still find both communities (at least) active
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Another really fun right down to the wire 1v1
Hydran vs Hydran maks for some interesting combat :D
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If you all want to try something completelyh different ;D
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163350477.0.html
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163350594.0.html
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Woo hoo, got my butt kicked in my first GSA game.
Well, first GSA game in about 7 years.
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games are going on here...
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Haven't had a chance to play any games with you guys lately due to RL. Now I'll be off to training for the next 3 months and my laptop won't play OP. :( :( Maybe when I fly home for a long weekend I'll get a little play time in. <S> and HF all !!!
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Haven't had a chance to play any games with you guys lately due to RL. Now I'll be off to training for the next 3 months and my laptop won't play OP. :( :( Maybe when I fly home for a long weekend I'll get a little play time in. <S> and HF all !!!
Buy a new laptop! :D
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Well, we now know why the USS Hood can't ever get away from Klingon D6's in the Kobayashi Maru Scenario... D6's go faster than fed ships. ;D
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lotsa games going on...
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wouldn't know considering that for some reason, I kept dropping yesterday. grr.
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wouldn't know considering that for some reason, I kept dropping yesterday. grr.
I know what you mean. We gotta advertise SFCdirect to the Gamespy crowd, no dropping there.
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wouldn't know considering that for some reason, I kept dropping yesterday. grr.
I know what you mean. We gotta advertise SFCdirect to the Gamespy crowd, no dropping there.
It wasn't a matter of me dropping out of gamespy, it was me dropping out of OP. I probably would have gotten donkey punched across the map anyway, but i still would have liked to have a go.
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Speaking of advertising to the GSA crowd, do they actually gather anyplace forum wise? The dates on the CUGS forums are all old so it doesn't look like much activity.
If we can get a campaign that's appealing to both that crowd and what we have here, we may be able to salvage a community. Problem is we can't find out what's appealing to them without posting on their boards or them posting here.
As much as we joke about the 450 ADV crowd, they seem to be in the minority.
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I can't find any forums either. Many of them are the last remaining SFCers of their fleets. They do have a Teamspeak channel that is usually active, though (see http://www.cugs.org/news.php). Josh would probably know how to reach a lot of the playerbase.
This might be a no-brainer but do you mean a Dynaverse campaign or some kind of GSA-based one?
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I can't find any forums either. Many of them are the last remaining SFCers of their fleets. They do have a Teamspeak channel that is usually active, though (see [url]http://www.cugs.org/news.php[/url]). Josh would probably know how to reach a lot of the playerbase.
I seem to spend as much time on their TS server as I do Dnets. I'll ask them if they gather anyplace on line forum-wise
This might be a no-brainer but do you mean a Dynaverse campaign or some kind of GSA-based one?
Both ;D
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Gamespy players may have noticed that a regular room cannot be seen by a player if the player signs on after that room was created.
However, rooms with passwords on them show up right when you enter the lobby. I don't know why, but it works.
I strongly encourage any hosts to put a password on their rooms. Not as a measure to keep people out of games, but to make it more convenient: this way, the room doesn't have to be remade repeatedly if someone drops out, and any players who wander in to the lobby could join in fast and easy.
Heck, the password should be visible in the room description: "Hey the pw is sfcrulz!"
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Is anyone else sick of fighting against plasma in every fight? In the land of the slow drone Plasma is king, especially since the drone speed upgrades cost too much. Did a bunch of FvK fights last night that were a blast. I wonder how receptive people would be to a few "west coast" only fights . . .
The other night Dizzy and I were laughing as it was almost as if I'd forgotten how to fly Fed since I've been flying ISC so much on GSA. I was getting my ass kicked and it took me a good 20 minutes into the fight before I was able to get any decent firing solutions. Flying ISC on GSA is like flying a Droner in D2, it rots your brain and makes you forget what it's like to fly "real" ships.
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In the 3v3 fleet GSA matches, plasma almost is a necessity, keeping chasers away so the direct fire races can do their magic. But it would be sweet if there were some West Coast matches, like you said. Because of all the plasma, a true overloaded alpha strike from Feds or Hydrans is so rare now (no one wants to charge a plasma punk). It's all just proxies for a while. Some old-school hammer Fed tactics and fusion Hydrans would really be nice.
I'm willing to bet enough people with be interested in a non-plasma game, we should give it a try.
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In the 3v3 fleet GSA matches, plasma almost is a necessity, keeping chasers away so the direct fire races can do their magic. But it would be sweet if there were some West Coast matches, like you said. Because of all the plasma, a true overloaded alpha strike from Feds or Hydrans is so rare now (no one wants to charge a plasma punk). It's all just proxies for a while. Some old-school hammer Fed tactics and fusion Hydrans would really be nice.
I'm willing to bet enough people with be interested in a non-plasma game, we should give it a try.
And people may actually play Kzinti!!! :D Even go with D2 loadouts in some of the fights.
That's the kicker, we've gota game with 8 distinct races with 8 distinct styles of play. But in open races games it all resorts to the same tactics. We're actually seeing less variety by having more variety.
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In the 3v3 fleet GSA matches, plasma almost is a necessity, keeping chasers away so the direct fire races can do their magic. But it would be sweet if there were some West Coast matches, like you said. Because of all the plasma, a true overloaded alpha strike from Feds or Hydrans is so rare now (no one wants to charge a plasma punk). It's all just proxies for a while. Some old-school hammer Fed tactics and fusion Hydrans would really be nice.
I'm willing to bet enough people with be interested in a non-plasma game, we should give it a try.
And people may actually play Kzinti!!! :D Even go with D2 loadouts in some of the fights.
That's the kicker, we've gota game with 8 distinct races with 8 distinct styles of play. But in open races games it all resorts to the same tactics. We're actually seeing less variety by having more variety.
Was looking at why the drones were so expensive, it is because they don't figure the BPV of the drone loads by the SFB rules. It is alot cheaper in SFB to load out a droner.
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In the 3v3 fleet GSA matches, plasma almost is a necessity, keeping chasers away so the direct fire races can do their magic. But it would be sweet if there were some West Coast matches, like you said. Because of all the plasma, a true overloaded alpha strike from Feds or Hydrans is so rare now (no one wants to charge a plasma punk). It's all just proxies for a while. Some old-school hammer Fed tactics and fusion Hydrans would really be nice.
I'm willing to bet enough people with be interested in a non-plasma game, we should give it a try.
And people may actually play Kzinti!!! :D Even go with D2 loadouts in some of the fights.
That's the kicker, we've gota game with 8 distinct races with 8 distinct styles of play. But in open races games it all resorts to the same tactics. We're actually seeing less variety by having more variety.
Was looking at why the drones were so expensive, it is because they don't figure the BPV of the drone loads by the SFB rules. It is alot cheaper in SFB to load out a droner.
It's because the upgrade cost is multiplied by the reloads and shouldn't be.
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It's because the upgrade cost is multiplied by the reloads and shouldn't be.
yep, you only are suppose to pay for the first load in the racks and the reloads are free. (but I like the payment for them in the D2 as that is prestige and not BPV)
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Is anyone else sick of fighting against plasma in every fight? In the land of the slow drone Plasma is king, especially since the drone speed upgrades cost too much. Did a bunch of FvK fights last night that were a blast. I wonder how receptive people would be to a few "west coast" only fights . . .
The other night Dizzy and I were laughing as it was almost as if I'd forgotten how to fly Fed since I've been flying ISC so much on GSA. I was getting my ass kicked and it took me a good 20 minutes into the fight before I was able to get any decent firing solutions. Flying ISC on GSA is like flying a Droner in D2, it rots your brain and makes you forget what it's like to fly "real" ships.
::)
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25 peeps in gsa...
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25 peeps in gsa...
My best friend picked the wrong night to get married . . .
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
I was mostly bitching about having to fight plasma every battle, they work fine at the BPVs with the exception of a few ships. The I-CW needs at least 20 BPV points added to it for example but most of the rest of the ISC fleet, even the CCZ work about right at their BPVs (as long a X1 is allowed).
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
I was mostly bitching about having to fight plasma every battle, they work fine at the BPVs with the exception of a few ships. The I-CW needs at least 20 BPV points added to it for example but most of the rest of the ISC fleet, even the CCZ work about right at their BPVs (as long a X1 is allowed).
As long as you host, or someone else who also feels the CW is cheap, you could outlaw the ship. In the meantime it would be easier than making and getting people to use a tweaked 4.0 shiplist.
I agree, the I-CW gets boring when it's used all the time. The I-CL series, Gorn, and Romulans are more interesting.
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
I was mostly bitching about having to fight plasma every battle, they work fine at the BPVs with the exception of a few ships. The I-CW needs at least 20 BPV points added to it for example but most of the rest of the ISC fleet, even the CCZ work about right at their BPVs (as long a X1 is allowed).
As long as you host, or someone else who also feels the CW is cheap, you could outlaw the ship. In the meantime it would be easier than making and getting people to use a tweaked 4.0 shiplist.
I agree, the I-CW gets boring when it's used all the time. The I-CL series, Gorn, and Romulans are more interesting.
:laugh: DH is the worst offender with that ship. We can't get him to fly anything else! :P
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
I was mostly bitching about having to fight plasma every battle, they work fine at the BPVs with the exception of a few ships. The I-CW needs at least 20 BPV points added to it for example but most of the rest of the ISC fleet, even the CCZ work about right at their BPVs (as long a X1 is allowed).
As long as you host, or someone else who also feels the CW is cheap, you could outlaw the ship. In the meantime it would be easier than making and getting people to use a tweaked 4.0 shiplist.
I agree, the I-CW gets boring when it's used all the time. The I-CL series, Gorn, and Romulans are more interesting.
:laugh: DH is the worst offender with that ship. We can't get him to fly anything else! :P
I've raised being cheesy to an art-form. Don't be hatin'
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
I was mostly bitching about having to fight plasma every battle, they work fine at the BPVs with the exception of a few ships. The I-CW needs at least 20 BPV points added to it for example but most of the rest of the ISC fleet, even the CCZ work about right at their BPVs (as long a X1 is allowed).
As long as you host, or someone else who also feels the CW is cheap, you could outlaw the ship. In the meantime it would be easier than making and getting people to use a tweaked 4.0 shiplist.
I agree, the I-CW gets boring when it's used all the time. The I-CL series, Gorn, and Romulans are more interesting.
:laugh: DH is the worst offender with that ship. We can't get him to fly anything else! :P
I've raised being cheesy to an art-form. Don't be hatin'
Hey, I'm not the one whining about plasma.
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
I was mostly bitching about having to fight plasma every battle, they work fine at the BPVs with the exception of a few ships. The I-CW needs at least 20 BPV points added to it for example but most of the rest of the ISC fleet, even the CCZ work about right at their BPVs (as long a X1 is allowed).
As long as you host, or someone else who also feels the CW is cheap, you could outlaw the ship. In the meantime it would be easier than making and getting people to use a tweaked 4.0 shiplist.
I agree, the I-CW gets boring when it's used all the time. The I-CL series, Gorn, and Romulans are more interesting.
:laugh: DH is the worst offender with that ship. We can't get him to fly anything else! :P
I've raised being cheesy to an art-form. Don't be hatin'
Hey, I'm not the one whining about plasma.
I'm not whining, I'm bitching. You are such an amateur on these forums, you're just jealous of my cheeiness . . .
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
I was mostly bitching about having to fight plasma every battle, they work fine at the BPVs with the exception of a few ships. The I-CW needs at least 20 BPV points added to it for example but most of the rest of the ISC fleet, even the CCZ work about right at their BPVs (as long a X1 is allowed).
As long as you host, or someone else who also feels the CW is cheap, you could outlaw the ship. In the meantime it would be easier than making and getting people to use a tweaked 4.0 shiplist.
I agree, the I-CW gets boring when it's used all the time. The I-CL series, Gorn, and Romulans are more interesting.
:laugh: DH is the worst offender with that ship. We can't get him to fly anything else! :P
I've raised being cheesy to an art-form. Don't be hatin'
Hey, I'm not the one whining about plasma.
I'm not whining, I'm bitching. You are such an amateur on these forums, you're just jealous of my cheeiness . . .
OMG! Did you just try a Dizzy line?
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Wow.
Yeah, I remember ISC being a big pick back in the day, and honestly thinking kind of the same thing.. no offense to ISC fans. I don't think they were really intended as a equal hull class vs same class fair fight.
I was mostly bitching about having to fight plasma every battle, they work fine at the BPVs with the exception of a few ships. The I-CW needs at least 20 BPV points added to it for example but most of the rest of the ISC fleet, even the CCZ work about right at their BPVs (as long a X1 is allowed).
As long as you host, or someone else who also feels the CW is cheap, you could outlaw the ship. In the meantime it would be easier than making and getting people to use a tweaked 4.0 shiplist.
I agree, the I-CW gets boring when it's used all the time. The I-CL series, Gorn, and Romulans are more interesting.
:laugh: DH is the worst offender with that ship. We can't get him to fly anything else! :P
I've raised being cheesy to an art-form. Don't be hatin'
Hey, I'm not the one whining about plasma.
I'm not whining, I'm bitching. You are such an amateur on these forums, you're just jealous of my cheeiness . . .
OMG! Did you just try a Dizzy line?
it was my first attempt, how'd I do?
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Pretty damned good!
And in other news.... Dib has a perfectly good film of a battle last night in which he can illustrate how a C7 runs over and kills a BCF, lol. (Course in my defense, my ww's never dropped and my ADD never fired. so :P )
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Pretty damned good!
And in other news.... Dib has a perfectly good film of a battle last night in which he can illustrate how a C7 runs over and kills a BCF, lol. (Course in my defense, my ww's never dropped and my ADD never fired. so :P )
In space, nobody can here you make excuses . . . ;D
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Lol, what a cheesefest match we just had on GSA, lol...
Fleet one: F-DNW + 2x I-CW
vs
Fleet two: R-CNM + 2x R-FHF (Yeah, that's 3x Maulers)
Guess who won?
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F-DNH actually, not DNW ;)
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Lol, what a cheesefest match we just had on GSA, lol...
Fleet one: F-DNW + 2x I-CW
vs
Fleet two: R-CNM + 2x R-FHF (Yeah, that's 3x Maulers)
Guess who won?
This is why we have Fleeting rules in D2!!! ;D
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Lol, what a cheesefest match we just had on GSA, lol...
Fleet one: F-DNW + 2x I-CW
vs
Fleet two: R-CNM + 2x R-FHF (Yeah, that's 3x Maulers)
Guess who won?
Who did win?
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who do u think?
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Pretty damned good!
And in other news.... Dib has a perfectly good film of a battle last night in which he can illustrate how a C7 runs over and kills a BCF, lol. (Course in my defense, my ww's never dropped and my ADD never fired. so :P )
nah! i dont keep that stuff...
but i would have kept this one from yesterday:
3v3...down to me vs krown and mixx...sitting on 3 mines in the middle of them...both really really close and all of us very close to death...i set to self destruct while going for ramming speed...
hit speed as i self destruct...
mixx and krown go boom!
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Lol, what a cheesefest match we just had on GSA, lol...
Fleet one: F-DNW + 2x I-CW
vs
Fleet two: R-CNM + 2x R-FHF (Yeah, that's 3x Maulers)
Guess who won?
Who did win?
The Feds and ISC, but I managed to kill two of them as I exploded.
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Pretty damned good!
And in other news.... Dib has a perfectly good film of a battle last night in which he can illustrate how a C7 runs over and kills a BCF, lol. (Course in my defense, my ww's never dropped and my ADD never fired. so :P )
nah! i dont keep that stuff...
but i would have kept this one from yesterday:
3v3...down to me vs krown and mixx...sitting on 3 mines in the middle of them...both really really close and all of us very close to death...i set to self destruct while going for ramming speed...
hit speed as i self destruct...
mixx and krown go boom!
That one was awesome... I was sure we lost after it became a 2v1, but you turned it around to a draw!
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Lol, what a cheesefest match we just had on GSA, lol...
Fleet one: F-DNW + 2x I-CW
vs
Fleet two: R-CNM + 2x R-FHF (Yeah, that's 3x Maulers)
Guess who won?
Who did win?
The Feds and ISC, but I managed to kill two of them as I exploded.
I think I'm going to need to rename my ship "Mauler SuperSponge".. I don't know how many maulers I ate that game..but it was quite a few heh
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Wow... Cool game in an asteroid belt. I rocked a DNW and an NHK with my CCZ, heh.
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No new posts in awhile to this thread? :( Is no one playing on GSA lately?
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No new posts in awhile to this thread? :( Is no one playing on GSA lately?
I saw only Five people on last night! That included the 'away' crowd too. It was sad. Every other night seems like about 12 people, though.
I know DH was planning to have a Dynaverse campaign battle PvP server sometime soon... while that is still in construction, we should get 6 people together to have a race vs. race fleet match on GSA. Maybe a classic Feds versus ______?
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I'm out of GSA for a bit, I might be able to get in via IPing in, but I haven't tested it. For the time being though, dont expect to see me on GSA.
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i'll be back on later this week, have a few models to finish up ;)
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I might be up for a game or two, if I can figure out what happened when I installed OP.
I my need to reinstall XP again. :(
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I think I finally am back in
GE-Raven
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We had a 40-minute 2v2 match today, 177 late no X:
Ribcager's G-CCH and my K-D7W versus a R-FHF and I-CW. It was a good game, but they seemed to get annoyed that we had saber-danced and ran for most of the match (what else can one do against a mauler and plasma duo?).
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I have often wondered about the mental state of certain plasma chuckers who become indignant when you don't simply fly up to them, park and let them hit you with it. "Stop running, you suck!" you're wasting my time etc while they are taking on damage little by little. :o
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We had a 40-minute 2v2 match today, 177 late no X:
Ribcager's G-CCH and my K-D7W versus a R-FHF and I-CW. It was a good game, but they seemed to get annoyed that we had saber-danced and ran for most of the match (what else can one do against a mauler and plasma duo?).
Were these the some mooks who said the EXACT same thing to us about a month ago? I would not be shocked ;D
I'll be on tonight.
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One of them was one of the same guys we had a previous experience with, but it was actually the other pilot who was complaining.
Dax, you've had this happen too? It sounds more common than I thought.
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I've seen it often enough on GSA over the years and a few times on the dyna.
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heh...just guessing here...but im sure most of the gsa crowd...would complain about any match taking longer than 30 minutes...
they are not accustomed to the epic battles where if one loses...they lose points for the team...save the ship...nah...until recently...or a year or so from what i heard...a gsa person would never run for the border...think thats dyna carrying over into gsa...but i could be wrong...
and not that i want to make anyone unhappy...but they dont really get the whole "strategy" thing either...diz can vouge for that...
even when you try to help people...its like talking to a wall...oh well...at least we try...
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I will say... I won my first two games... and I was told that one of the ICOP guys was pretty good... dunno... but I will be damned if it didn't
"all come back"
GE-Raven
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I will say... I won my first two games... and I was told that one of the ICOP guys was pretty good... dunno... but I will be damned if it didn't
"all come back"
GE-Raven
Ramagar is the best ICOP guy left. Excellent pilot. He's on a lot so it was probably him.
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heh...just guessing here...but im sure most of the gsa crowd...would complain about any match taking longer than 30 minutes...
they are not accustomed to the epic battles where if one loses...they lose points for the team...save the ship...nah...until recently...or a year or so from what i heard...a gsa person would never run for the border...think thats dyna carrying over into gsa...but i could be wrong...
and not that i want to make anyone unhappy...but they dont really get the whole "strategy" thing either...diz can vouge for that...
even when you try to help people...its like talking to a wall...oh well...at least we try...
Yeah, part of my "master plan" in becoming a GSA regular is trying to get some of these guys interested in my campaign idea. not sure how well that's gonna work out but it's still been fun :D
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If anyone wants to fly one, Muaddib has a room up but we're looking for a 2v2.
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heh...just guessing here...but im sure most of the gsa crowd...would complain about any match taking longer than 30 minutes...
they are not accustomed to the epic battles where if one loses...they lose points for the team...save the ship...nah...until recently...or a year or so from what i heard...a gsa person would never run for the border...think thats dyna carrying over into gsa...but i could be wrong...
and not that i want to make anyone unhappy...but they dont really get the whole "strategy" thing either...diz can vouge for that...
even when you try to help people...its like talking to a wall...oh well...at least we try...
Yeah, part of my "master plan" in becoming a GSA regular is trying to get some of these guys interested in my campaign idea. not sure how well that's gonna work out but it's still been fun :D
kewl...between the two of us...maybe we can get most of them over to the serious dyna servers...
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Last night, Dib hosted a stepped BPV Feds vs. Klink room. 1 DN on each side, 1 BCH, and 1 NCC. It was a lot of fun, and it was pretty cool to see that everyone followed the rules and picked only from their race. Lots of fun.
Also, there was a 3v3 room with the points at 300 Late. The rules were:
- You could only pick an NCA-type hull (New Command Cruisers, New Fast Cruisers, etc were allowed too), but it could be loaded like a Dynaverse ship, with fast drones and supplies.
- No X, and only one carrier and one mauler per side.
- The teams were Alliance versus Coalition, so you had four races to pick from.
The other team was confused about the rules or something, and took Heavy Battlecruisers and X1 ships. We taught them ;)
By the next game everything was cleared up and there was a GG. This Alliance vs Coalition stuff is awesome.
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I'd love to get involved in those kind of matches.
Years back I got sick of GSA because everyone seemed to have a list nearby of "Cheesiest ship per BPV/era" and never deviated... booooring. 'Course I discovered the dyna then... so maybe it wasn't all bad :)
I know not all players are for this type of match but I enjoy them very much when the fleet makeup makes some kind of operational sense instead of the usual mixed bag of tricks.
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the hard part is setting the rules in a timely fashion....without losing players...
and the limiting of 12 spares didnt go over well with one player in particular...draco 69...the guy i call lizard...
but i chalked that up to the fact that he was impartial as he couldnt take a rom and fix fix fix while cloaked as i wanted to give some advantage by allowing the other team to decide either C or A as i picked my team before launching...and lizard picking a mauler is a pretty much 99.9% of the time...
im hoping the more i am able to pull this off...the easier it will be to get these types of games going...makes it much easier when i get the same folks and only 1 or 2 new ones as the ones who know are able to help the newcomers out...
asides from chazzey...im getting everyone to play in my rooms with the rule set of...no 2 ships the same...no x...1 mauler or carrier per team...and i told spider yesterday that the next time he disregards the rules...he will no longer be allowed in my rooms...its seemed to straighten him out as i had no problems with him yesterday...
and like i said...hoping within the week the race wars and/or C or A become as easy as no 2 ships the same...no x...1 mauler or carrier per...team...
and butcher has been around doing what i call Dizzy's "step bpv set up" as Dizzy was the first ive ever seen doing this in GSA...this is another nice set up and really helps with the no 2 ships the same...no x...1 mauler or carrier per...team...but this is another set up thats gotta be done in a timely fashion...
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and butcher has been around doing what i call Dizzy's "step bpv set up" as Dizzy was the first ive ever seen doing this in GSA...this is another nice set up and really helps with the no 2 ships the same...no x...1 mauler or carrier per...team...but this is another set up thats gotta be done in a timely fashion...
And people have grown accustomed to it, too, so there isn't as much waiting around or "What's a step" kind of thing. Like you said, players will get used to the C vs A matches and they will be quick to set up.
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Step it up!
The whole idea was to get peeps to use different ships and set it up to where you start seeing a lead or capital ship w/ support ships and less of the same two type of ships in the game. Doing that would lead to more varied strategic play as well. Stepped accomplished that and made it more fun too. If I hadnt done it I'm sure someone would have. I'm glad it caught on. I'll have to revisit gsa sometime.
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Step it up!
The whole idea was to get peeps to use different ships and set it up to where you start seeing a lead or capital ship w/ support ships and less of the same two type of ships in the game. Doing that would lead to more varied strategic play as well. Stepped accomplished that and made it more fun too. If I hadn't done it I'm sure someone would have. I'm glad it caught on. I'll have to revisit gsa sometime.
One thing I've occasionally advocated for was having matches where everyone gets excess bpv, and has to choose a specific hull size. That way you can have ships that you don't normally see in gamespy play like droners and pf tenders, but every time we've tried that, some moron doesn't follow directions. In one particular match a certain idiotic player brought a BBZ to a CL fight.
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Well, back in the old days when someone wasn't following the rules we set up (people used to do stepped BPV and specific fleet battles before the D2 was online, but it has been many years since that was a normal occurrence on GSA) his teammates would withdraw and allow the three opponents to pummel him until he got the point or left. Then one player on the opponent team would withdraw and there would be a 2v2. This was in the day of around 1000+ people on MPlayer. Considering the time it takes to get a good game going these days this seems like a fair way to salvage a game that might have taken 30+ minutes to get going.
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bump!
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Well deserved bump.
I forgot about those 300 late Heavy Command Cruiser with a Dynaverse loadout games. We should have them again. They are lots of fun and people can learn to follow the rules.
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Last night, there was an AWESOME game that lasted an hour and fifteen minutes. 3v3 with a 160-250-160 stepped points, no X, and no 2 races the same per team.
IIRC,
Knight in a F-DNM or some improved DN variant
Cobra in an I-CLZ
Me in a K-DWL
vs.
KrownELF in a G-DNM or similar
MuadDib in an I-CMZ
Tans in an H-IRC
GG
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Last night, there was an AWESOME game that lasted an hour and fifteen minutes. 3v3 with a 160-250-160 stepped points, no X, and no 2 races the same per team.
IIRC,
Knight in a F-DNM or some improved DN variant
Cobra in an I-CLZ
Me in a K-DWL
vs.
KrownELF in a G-DNM or similar
MuadDib in an I-CMZ
Tans in an H-IRC
GG
LOL!
wait till you fly a dyna server Mace...theres lots of long battles...
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Bump!
There are still some fun games going on.
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Roy and I had a really fun match last night flying a pair of F-BCFs, against an STL and a C9. We managed to use proxies to punch though the STL's shields and score internals. Unfortunately, 15 minutes into the match the C9 dropped, and the STL decided to alt since he was now hurt, and outnumbered.
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It was nice. The two same ships, flying solidly together at high speeds. They needed to catch us to damage us, and we didn't let them. The labs helped too.
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Roy and I had a really fun match last night flying a pair of F-BCFs, against an STL and a C9. We managed to use proxies to punch though the STL's shields and score internals. Unfortunately, 15 minutes into the match the C9 dropped, and the STL decided to alt since he was now hurt, and outnumbered.
At what fouled up BPV would you talk a BCF versus 2 dreads?
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Roy and I had a really fun match last night flying a pair of F-BCFs, against an STL and a C9. We managed to use proxies to punch though the STL's shields and score internals. Unfortunately, 15 minutes into the match the C9 dropped, and the STL decided to alt since he was now hurt, and outnumbered.
At what fouled up BPV would you talk a BCF versus 2 dreads?
It was somewhere in the low 200s, too low for the F-DNL or anything like that. Even though we could've bought ships like the C9 or the baseline dread for each race, we really didn't want to. Before even hearing the terms of the match, we had planned on flying dual BCF together in a tight formation, and we were itching to give that a try... besides, I never liked those earlier dreadnoughts like the C8/C9. :P
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Roy and I had a really fun match last night flying a pair of F-BCFs, against an STL and a C9. We managed to use proxies to punch though the STL's shields and score internals. Unfortunately, 15 minutes into the match the C9 dropped, and the STL decided to alt since he was now hurt, and outnumbered.
At what fouled up BPV would you talk a BCF versus 2 dreads?
Like Roy said, the bpv was about 220. High enough that the room host could afford an STL which is admittedly an effective DN, but low enough that none of the heavier DNs, or monster cruisers was available. Neither of us is really fond of the base DNs because they're kind of lacking in terms of firepower, and we don't think the increase in survivability is worth the tradeoff in speed and maneuverability. As far as why I chose to take a BCF, its the bch I'm most comfortable flying, so I am more effective in it than I am in say a CCY. We flew a mobile match, and avoided most of their hits. The STL was only good mauler pilot to regularly fly on GSA, and he was able to get a few hits on us, but we both did a good job of protecting our downed shields until they could regenerate.
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Roy and I had a really fun match last night flying a pair of F-BCFs, against an STL and a C9. We managed to use proxies to punch though the STL's shields and score internals. Unfortunately, 15 minutes into the match the C9 dropped, and the STL decided to alt since he was now hurt, and outnumbered.
At what fouled up BPV would you talk a BCF versus 2 dreads?
Like Roy said, the bpv was about 220. High enough that the room host could afford an STL which is admittedly an effective DN, but low enough that none of the heavier DNs, or monster cruisers was available. Neither of us is really fond of the base DNs because they're kind of lacking in terms of firepower, and we don't think the increase in survivability is worth the tradeoff in speed and maneuverability. As far as why I chose to take a BCF, its the bch I'm most comfortable flying, so I am more effective in it than I am in say a CCY. We flew a mobile match, and avoided most of their hits. The STL was only good mauler pilot to regularly fly on GSA, and he was able to get a few hits on us, but we both did a good job of protecting our downed shields until they could regenerate.
F-DN+
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Lately we've been flying a lot of 109 late battles. Personally, I like the smaller stuff better, and rocks are actually kind of fun when you're not trying to weave through them in a large DN. Seriously, any admiral who would take a large, expensive, unmanuverable ship into an asteroid field would be shot.
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Lately we've been flying a lot of 109 late battles. Personally, I like the smaller stuff better, and rocks are actually kind of fun when you're not trying to weave through them in a large DN. Seriously, any admiral who would take a large, expensive, unmanuverable ship into an asteroid field would be shot.
Playing this match is also a good test of the personality of some of these GSA players. We've seen a couple whiners so far, but otherwise, it is a good change from the standard battles. Who seriously doesn't like destroyers? Okay, bad question... :P
Just a announcement to people craving a PvP match -- Gamespy is still active, especially on weekends.
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Is GSA still popular? Just curious because it's nearly 4pm est here and i'm the only one in the room
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Is GSA still popular? Just curious because it's nearly 4pm est here and i'm the only one in the room
People really don't start filing in until after 9
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crap... I'm never home at 9 :(
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crap... I'm never home at 9 :(
On weekends, it usually goes until 12 or 1 in the AM though.
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I'm on now, waiting to get my ass handed to me :P
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ggs Vang... I don't know if he ever comes in here, but it was fun.
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GSA is jumpin right now. Everyone get on!
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damn... those were the days... I remember getting it on with packed games for hours and hurting going to work the next mornin..