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Title: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Stormbringer on July 30, 2008, 09:29:09 am
Element 122 Discovered?
http://arxivblog.com/?p=385

they need to come up with star treky name for it though :)



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What do we know about 122? Marinov and co say it has a half life in excess of 100 million years and occurs with an abundance of between 1 and 10 x10^-12, relative to thorium, which is a fairly common element (about as abundant as lead).

Theorists have mapped out the superheavy periodic table and 122 would be a member of the superheavy actinide group. It even has a name: eka-thorium or unbibium. Welcome to our world!
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Sirgod on July 30, 2008, 10:56:17 am
Sheesh, I was mining thorium along long time ago. Oh wait, I really need to separate video games with Real Life.

Very cool though. Let's see I can add this to my list of things to tell the grandkids, ie. I have seen whole planets destroyed by man (Pluto) and new elements being born under a hot July Sun.

Stephen
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Stormbringer on July 30, 2008, 11:28:13 am
yup. if this turns out to be true i can think of some pseudo scientific claims that can be checked out with it including some by Bob Lazar.
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Sirgod on July 30, 2008, 12:19:46 pm
This really is pretty exciting.

How you been Storm?

Stephen
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Stormbringer on July 30, 2008, 12:21:37 pm
up and down. how about you?
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Sirgod on July 30, 2008, 12:37:15 pm
same man. Alan died last week while Debbie and the kids where vacationing in Vegas. Denny and I where here taking care of him and he had a massive heart attack. outside of that, things are pretty good. was thinking of you and frey today actually, as I'll be grilling steaks for my birthday lol.

Stephen
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Bonk on July 30, 2008, 05:51:54 pm
Hmmm... I'm thinking it depends on the aggressiveness of the ionisation source and quality of vacuum of their mass spec, lots of  molecular ion fragments could weigh 292.

I'm reminded of a story of a fly in a mass spec. ;)

Lets see it duplicated on another instrument first.

Wait, I RTFA and it seems they were using ICP-MS, aggressive, but not high vacuum. Skimmer cones in ICP MS can introduce all kinds of issues. (Nature of the beast with an atmospheric ionisation source). I'd like to see it duplicated perhaps with a laser ablation TOF instrument.
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Stormbringer on July 30, 2008, 06:23:39 pm
very cool Bonk
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: Stormbringer on July 30, 2008, 06:24:56 pm
Quote from: Stephen NCC -73070 on July 30, 2008, 12:37:15 pm
same man. Alan died last week while Debbie and the kids where vacationing in Vegas. Denny and I where here taking care of him and he had a massive heart attack. outside of that, things are pretty good. was thinking of you and frey today actually, as I'll be grilling steaks for my birthday lol.

Stephen

condolences to the family.  :(
Title: Re: Stable Element 122 discovered in Thorium?
Post by: toasty0 on July 30, 2008, 08:52:10 pm
Quote from: Stephen NCC -73070 on July 30, 2008, 12:37:15 pm
same man. Alan died last week while Debbie and the kids where vacationing in Vegas. Denny and I where here taking care of him and he had a massive heart attack. outside of that, things are pretty good. was thinking of you and frey today actually, as I'll be grilling steaks for my birthday lol.

Stephen


Sorry to hear of your loss.

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