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Taldrenites => General Starfleet Command Forum => Topic started by: _Rondo_GE The OutLaw on March 26, 2009, 11:28:45 pm
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I've been going to Gamepsy now and the game is taking a beating. Hardly anyone there anymore. A few 1v1 to be had. This was my conversation, maybe its my epitaph as a player...
<KR_Rondo_XC> thosuands played this game online once
<KR_Rondo_XC> when i first started playing
<KR_Rondo_XC> i never thought i'd be one of the last
<KR_Rondo_XC> Josh ever comehere anymore?
<000---Mixx---000> nope
<000---Mixx---000> been awhile
<KR_Rondo_XC> I'm not sure how to bring people here
<KR_Rondo_XC> Josh was the last key
<KR_Rondo_XC> firesouls 4.0 prolonged the game but we need something new
<KR_Rondo_XC> anyway gtg
<KR_Rondo_XC> i'll be back
<KR_Rondo_XC> gn
<000---Mixx---000> im off as well
<000---Mixx---000> night
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Well...we're still playing on the forge ;D
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Traffic is a bit higher on weekends.
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I'll confess, I use Gamespy selfishly - I've been playing SFC 1v1 against the same player for 6 years (and SFB for the past 23 years...) and we use Gamespy as a convenient way to connect. We've been using a modified shiplist to suite our needs, not that I couldn't switch back...
Most of the time there it seems to me that there's a few people meeting who already know each other as well. And a few conversations I've witnessed have been nasty arguments about so-and-so cheating or not. Not conducive to joining in.
I've told myself several times that someday I should join in some random games with new players, but I can barely manage the time to connect with my longtime archenemy, so I don't know when I'll do that. Maybe soon, I say, and then 3 mos. go by.
Is SFC on Gamespy in danger of going away because of lack of interest? THat might be enough to shake up my routine. I like the idea of a Gamespy SFC community, even if I'm off in a quiet corner by myself.
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I have noticed that the population is shrinking, too.
Traffic is a bit higher on weekends.
Knight is right. Even so, the Friday/Saturday nighttime crowd hasn't been 20 people for a while now.
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I have noticed that the population is shrinking, too.
Traffic is a bit higher on weekends.
Knight is right. Even so, the Friday/Saturday nighttime crowd hasn't been 20 people for a while now.
:knuppel2: :iamwithstupid: :whip: :rollingpin: :cuss:
Roy, you're supposed to be trying to promote it so we can get more people to sign on.
btw, this thing really needs a smiley that has a board with a nail sticking out of it.
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Oh... well... we had a good amount on tonight. SVC and Bethke signed on for a while, that was pretty fun.
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Oh... well... we had a good amount on tonight. SVC and Bethke signed on for a while, that was pretty fun.
:rofl:
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Well, I've got the disc around here somewhere, and my brother has been hounding me to install so we can play. I'm runnin' vista on my main computer so I guess that means no Dynaverse, right? I could always put it on my backup, but the seating there isn't the best for gaming. Hmmmm.
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Rondo, do you mean "something new" like SFC4, or more along the lines of a different shiplist? Hardcore or SFB-OP would be interesting.
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What times do you guys normally show up on GameSpy?
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What times do you guys normally show up on GameSpy?
We're usually on Friday-Sunday between 9PM and 1AM Eastern
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Guys, I wouldn't panick. Even if we can't play on Gamespy anymore (I do try to show up occasionally), there is always the program "Kali". Its basically like Gamespy (but with far fewer adds) and can play many older games (even some new ones) just like GSA does. Just go to www.kali.net and check it out. I know you can play SFC1 on it, and I have heard EAW and OP can run it aswell. You will need to get a "lifetime" membership for it though, but its dirt cheap!
Heck, you will be suprised how many old games can run with Kali.
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WWW.kali.net sounds like a good idea. I still can't get on Gamespy.
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Magnum, are you willing to give us any news on that new list of yours? ;)
Kali looks nice. There's also SFCDirect, which might be a little slower than GSA with chat functions, but a lot more stable overall.
WWW.kali.net sounds like a good idea. I still can't get on Gamespy.
What is the issue you're having? Many people have had trouble staying logged in on Gamespy, but I haven't heard of not being able to sign in at all.
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Magnum, are you willing to give us any news on that new list of yours? ;)
What would you like to know? :huh:
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Just curious about some things, like whether you are staying with the 8 empire/8 cartels layout or adding in some new races, and whether or not you plan to include only line and command ships, or perhaps the conjectural and non-warships. If we are talking about a new list to put some life into GSA, this might be it.
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I just reinstalled SFC II - EAW and I'm looking for a place to play someone on-line. I used to play quite a bit back in the Star Lance days. I am tired of playing the AI. Does anyone know where I might find an on-line match? I tried Gamespy for several days but never logged on when there was someone else in the lobby. Thanks in advance.
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Sorry, I never see anyone play EAW in Gamespy anymore. I think there might be an EAW Dynaverse server but that might not be crowded, either. Everyone plays Orion Pirates now. Copies should be cheap, or there might be alternatives...
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Thanks for the information. I might track down a copy of OP. Is this being played on Gamespy or another server?
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Just curious about some things, like whether you are staying with the 8 empire/8 cartels layout or adding in some new races, and whether or not you plan to include only line and command ships, or perhaps the conjectural and non-warships. If we are talking about a new list to put some life into GSA, this might be it.
Well, first of all, the shiplist I'm working on is a lot like Firesoul's 4.0, but it will be a "no models" version to help out lower end systems and keep it simple to install. This means there won't be any new races added, just the main 8 races (Federation, Klingon, Romulan, Mirak, Lyran, Hydran, Gorn, ISC) but the Pirate Cartels are going to be completely revamped. Only 6 Pirate cartels will be present, two of the Pirate slots will occupy the LDR and WYN ships. Think of this shiplist as a "variation" of 4.0, with some improvements in my opinion and only a faction of the number of ships compared to 4.0.
As for ships, the emphisis on this shiplist is to incourage the use of "main warships". There won't be any "True Carriers" or "PF Tenders", but there will be a few auxilaries to cover some of this. On GSA, I always kept hearing people complaining that they didn't like the use of carriers or tenders. In this shiplist, carriers and tenders are there, but they are limited quite a bit so if you use them, you better bring your "A" game! The only exception to this will be the Hydrans, as they need there fighters, but they will be limited to there "hybrid carriers" they won't have any "true carriers" (like the CAV). I found quite a few fan-made ships on the internet that are used in SFB, so there are some whole new ships in the shiplist to make it more then just a variation of 4.0.
ISC ships will be redone a bit. I decided to take out the I-torps and just use rear firing F-torps. From what I understand, the I-torps never really worked right (especially for the AI). Lots of people on GSA use ISC ships (sometimes nothing but ISC ships) because well... they are darn hard to fight against. I'm trying to put a bit of balance to them so that they are powerful, but still not a game breaker. Changing the I-torps helps this a bit for point balance, but I'm hoping other people might have suggestions on how to limit the ISC if possible. I'm going to include "Early Years" ISC ships (as they are about equal in firepower as the other races CA) but I just found out that ADB has released a "Early Years Y2" module that includes what the early ISC ships looked like. The Taldren Early Years ships are most likely not "official" so I'm not sure if I should stick with the Taldren ships or get this Y2 model. From what I understand, the ISC began with "Double hull ships" (instead of the tri-hull ships we see later) that are in model Y2. If anyone has any info about this module, it would help if I knew what these ships are lilke.
Another balance to the shiplist is that all races will have Maulers, but they are limited to just tugs. This is another problem with GSA games as people usually pick Romulan or Lyran BCH/DN's with maulers. Most of the 4.0 maulers are not "offical" in SFB which I think is why people pick them as they are quite a powerful slug weapon. According to SFB, all races did experiment with maulers, but most races didn't bother using them. In SFC, the mauler is a bit more effective in fleet actions compared to SFB. Limiting the Mauler to Tugs keeps this weapon system limited. Most tugs have limited firepower so this will be somewhat like the use of carriers I described above, you better bring your "A" game if you want to use them. So far, the only problem I can see with this is the Gorn Tugs. There aft "bubble pod" would make shooting a mauler to the front impossible. I could just simply set the Mauler to fire to the sides or rear, but I don't think SFC has narrow firing arcs in those dirctions, and I don't think you are allowed to fire a mauler to the side without shock rules. Would anyone object to a Gorn mauler firing in a RA arc?? :huh:
Anyway, that is just a few of the things you would see out of this shiplist. I hope this helps answer a few questions for you Roychipoqua_Mace.
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Thank you Magnum, that was a very detailed response. I am really looking forward to the emphasis on main warships, and I like how you are limiting the maulers and ISC. 4.0 is awesome, but I won't miss the FHF and STL.
Thanks for the information. I might track down a copy of OP. Is this being played on Gamespy or another server?
No problem, OP is the most commonly played game both on GSA and on the Dynaverse campaign servers.
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Thanks! I will not miss some of the 4.0 ships either. As a matter of fact, no ships will be included that suffer from shock rules in SFB (like the BCJ or Romulan Killer Hawk for example) since there is no shock rules in SFC. Keep in mind though, even though this shiplist will only be a fraction of the number of ships compared to 4.0, there are still a lot of ships to do. I got about 40 to 45% of the shiplist done so its going to take me some time to complete this. This doesn't even include some testing.
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Firesouls 4.0 is considered by many to be =the= shiplist=.
We here at XenoCorp put our a Hardcore shiplist, and was designed to more closely mimick the actual production line of ships used in SFB.
All of these are on the FTP.
And don't forget about SFC Direct! Dynaverse.Net's replacement for LameSpy!
Regards,