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Taldrenites => Starfleet Command Models => Topic started by: Azel on August 26, 2003, 02:27:03 pm
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Ok... over the last few days the Andor-Class Missile/Torpedo Cruiser has been making alot of noise in the Forums
So I'd thought I would Take a crack at putting my 2 cents in...so I decided to try a TNG version of this ship
This is what I have so far,\
Hope you enjoy
Top view
This is a side view, but without the nacelle and is showing the interior side of the cattamarang style hulll
the bold black lines are the outline of the ship in relation to the cattamarang style hulll:
and the front View
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Hrmmm. Honestly, I dont like the saucer. It seems too tall from the front and sides. Top view looks ok...
Overall, tho, it's a fine kinda prototype TNG Andor to build on...
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I agree with Arachne; I would prefer a saucer that is not as 'tall'. However, overall, it clearly shows its design lineage. Well done!
KF
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Hrmmm. Honestly, I dont like the saucer. It seems too tall from the front and sides. Top view looks ok...
Overall, tho, it's a fine kinda prototype TNG Andor to build on...
LMAO You have seen the original version right???
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_andor.jpg
I tried to sleek out the design heavily...without losing its identity
It was designed by Andorians(in case anyone didn't know )
Mine was built by Atolmians...lol
j/k
OH...before I forget...
I need a free modeller(one of you guys who is not doing anything right now)
I would like if at all possible to have this ship modelled please
we can do it as a collaborated effort if you like
Thanks everyone in advance
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Looks very cool, definetly shows the FASA Andorian design lineage, though I must agree with KF and Arachne about the saucer. Will this one have your hand-drawn textures when done or will it be like the Titan and be a fed grey?
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Looks very cool, definetly shows the FASA Andorian design lineage, though I must agree with KF and Arachne about the saucer. Will this one have your hand-drawn textures when done or will it be like the Titan and be a fed grey?
I would Like you work with someone on it...
It will retain the colors(Andorian)...I mean worst come to worst...I guess I will do it
But I would preffer to collaborate on this design
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it going to be a good one- the original design was a wild one even... can't wait to see it in form... yeah, Atolm!
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Wonder if this amuses anyone... the more I look at the old one, and this new one in production.... it looks more and more like the Thurfir Class's big brother... ha ha ha ha!!
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"... Atolmians..."
Ha ha ha, too.
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I like it, and I have to be honest, I like the tall saucer too! I prefer to think of it as the top of a sphere, in my opinion it makes more sense for space travel. I hope something can come of this design.
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I like the saucer too. A lot actually. Looking at the side shot in color there's lots of detail. different levels, angles, shapes, etc... I like moving the "sponsons" back off the saucer too, compared to the original. The saucer looks more TNG, that's all.
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yep, SAUCER GOOD
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I like the TNG deisgn, not overly keen on the colours though. I think that the profile of the saucer fits in well with other TNG era designs, personally I would be tempted to make the saucer less circular and more elliptical, hehe.
Thin saucers are so passe now, can you think of a TNG ship with a thin saucer? Therefore, it stands to reason that a TNG remake such as this should have a saucer just as Azel has envisioned it here.
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I think the shape of the ship is great, it's the colors I'm not too keen on. The tall saucer is very nie IMO.
If we can get both a "Normal fed textures" version along with any "Atolm" textures, I'll make the ship. Someone elese will have to texture it though. Maybe WZ can spare some time?
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Pretty cool so far..although i agree about the saucer but still....better than what i could do!
Semper Fi, Carry On.
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Nice!!!
Some possible Takers to model her
Hey Korah, How about You and Smiley get together and do the ship???
I wanted this to be a joint effort...so please??
And here's another Idea(just throwing it out there for some responses)
How's about the signage of the ship be in Andorian (like that Belknap class
that had Vulcan signage...the Raan was it???)
Also I may have a new version of the nacelle placement...look at this:
instead of side by side...how about vertical...and connected in different points???
Just another Idea
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Sure, I'd texture it! It would be fun, especially with your detailed drawings to base them on
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WoW!!!
Thanks MAN!!!
Hell if Korah won't tackle her with you...I would be honored sir
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WoW!!!
Thanks MAN!!!
Hell if Korah won't tackle her with you...I would be honored sir
The honour would be all mine
It's a deal
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WoW!!!
Thanks MAN!!!
Hell if Korah won't tackle her with you...I would be honored sir
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The honour would be all mine
It's a deal
Thanks Man again!!!
SWEET all we need is Korah....
Anyone seen Him...
KORAH!!!! KORAH!!!!
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I wouldn't change the original drawing for the mesh. Of course, it's not my model I do like the 2 sets of txtrs idea, though. I like the idea of the Andorian (or Atolmian) textures to give it some racial identity. I realise though that some folks want their Feds in "one flavor".
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Has no one have any comments to the Andorian signage or the alternate necelle placement???
Oh if anyone sees Capt. Korah...Tell him That we have a go
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Bump for info
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Bump again...lol
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bumpity-bump
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Has no one have any comments to the Andorian signage or the alternate necelle placement???
Oh if anyone sees Capt. Korah...Tell him That we have a go
Looks good to me for a TNG design. Its nice that somebody wishes to keep the Andorians in the front of TNG Consciousness. We can't just let ENTERPRISE and FASA Trek give them all their glory! Naturally, you'll have to do TNG versions of the Thurfir, Lenthal and Northampton too ... BEWARE: The BLUE FLEET approaches.
Qapla!
KF
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Naturally, you'll have to do TNG versions of the Thurfir, Lenthal and Northampton too ... BEWARE: The BLUE FLEET approaches.
Qapla!
KF
UH OH...LOL
maybe
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Any news!?!
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Small update...I did this pic yesterday...sorry I left my refference pics at home(I was at a BBQ while doing this )
so the details are alittle off...but you'll get the idea:)
Enjoy
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I like the revised version better. I like the new arrangement of the engines. A+ for original thinking!
KF
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I dunno, I still prefer the left-right arrangement, they're meant to be that way so the ship can steer at warp anyway but I just think it looks better with them side by side.
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Bump for news on the mesh
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It's going a lot slower than I anticipated, mainly because im not used to meshing Feds, but I have the entire saucer section completed, and working on the secondary hull now.
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Nice
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It's going a lot slower than I anticipated, mainly because im not used to meshing Feds, but I have the entire saucer section completed, and working on the secondary hull now.
Thanks for the update. I'm really looking forward to having this one and was getting a bit antsy
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Bump for update???
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This model is really turning out to be a pain to mesh, mostly because of all the curved surfaces. I have found that if I make the model exactly like the drawing, it would easily be over 10,000polys! So I'm cutting some corners here and there, and using a few kitbash techniques to try and get the look right without using 1,000's of polys. I think it's going well so far. Finished the secondary hull today.
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You guys are amazing!
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This model is really turning out to be a pain to mesh, mostly because of all the curved surfaces. I have found that if I make the model exactly like the drawing, it would easily be over 10,000polys! So I'm cutting some corners here and there, and using a few kitbash techniques to try and get the look right without using 1,000's of polys. I think it's going well so far. Finished the secondary hull today.
I appreciate all the effort that you're putting into this. It's a nice looking concept and it'll be great to have it reasonably low poly for game play. Sounds like I shouldn't shrink it down and use it as a PF though.
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dont worry about the polycount korah, once youre done with it send it my way and ill cut it down a bit
(a lightwave tool called Qemloss3, very efficient tool)
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wow!!!
everyone wants in on the action
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dont worry about the polycount korah, once youre done with it send it my way and ill cut it down a bit
(a lightwave tool called Qemloss3, very efficient tool)
Thanks Mackie
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Yeah this is turning into a real community project, I like it!
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I can't wait to get my hands on this lovely mesh, and to give her some clothes!!! The poor lassy must be freezing!
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I thought you guys might like to see a couple WIP's so here ya are:
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Awesome so far man
I would throw a few more slices in that saucer though
Great job !!!
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EL BUMPO!!!
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so azel, you got any plans for a matching north hampton?
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Northhampton, Thuffir, and Lenthal I hope
Any new news???
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I took the weekend off from my computer to spend some time with my new wife. We've been married about a month and out of that time I've spent more with my computer than her :P I'll get back to work on Monday though, and hopefully I'll have some new WIP's for you by tuesday featuring the increased poly saucer section and maybe a complete sensor array and warp nacelles.
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I took the weekend off from my computer to spend some time with my new wife. We've been married about a month and out of that time I've spent more with my computer than her :P I'll get back to work on Monday though, and hopefully I'll have some new WIP's for you by tuesday featuring the increased poly saucer section and maybe a complete sensor array and warp nacelles.
THank You Man!!!
And Congrads !!!
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So KoraH, I thought that I'd keep this on top so you won't have any trouble finding it
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It's Wednesday. "Do you know where your Andor is?"
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Well I got to work on it yesterday and spent the entire day on it. After a couple hours though it was apparent that I needed a new mesh. So, I scrapped the hull and started over from scratch. What I ended up with is MUCH better than the first attempt. Much more efficient use of polys, and I even was able to pass the previous extent of construction and add some detail that wasn't there before. So, I'm about the same place I was before, with a bit more detail, but a way better mesh to work with. By the time I was finished though the wife was home and it was too late to post the WIPS! So here they are!
Let the WIP's flow large!
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Looks great man!!! thanks
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Here are some more WIP's
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Still looking good...I would re size the Triange shape on the dorsal saucer...as it is suppose to be similar the Soveriegn class except the impulse assemblies are now shuttle bays(sorry if I didn't show that clearly...My bad)
Also the main deflector alcove goes all the way up to the saucer(like the sovie) hope that helps
Great Job !!!
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It's looking sweet, man. Thanks for the update. Tell your wife that her sacrafice is for a good cause and we appreciate her too I'm looking forward to seeing more as you get to it. Thanks again
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Good flow so far, Capt Korah!!
Not that I know ANYTHING about modelling, but that design sure looks like a hard one- we sure appreciate the work on it....:)
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Yeah, like everyone else is sayin'!
Even in her early stages I can tell that she's gonna be a real looker!
"I want that ship."
Darth Vader
"The Empire Strikes Back"
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AWESOME
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Bump !!!
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Bumps make ATOLM's Head go ouchy...
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any update ???
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anything new at all???
Thanks
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*watches tumbleweed blow by*
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*Watches a Magic Photon roll by*
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*Watches a Magic Photon roll by*
Is surprised the magic Photon missed
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*Watches a Magic Photon roll by*
Is surprised the magic Photon missed
*Is suprised a photon can roll around without detonating*
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*Watches a Magic Photon roll by*
Is surprised the magic Photon missed
*Is suprised a photon can roll around without detonating*
*checks to make sure Spock isn't giving him a funny look*
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The Special Magic allows it to roll until it strikes something.... hence nothing here, so it might just roll around here for good...
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The Special Magic allows it to roll until it strikes something.... hence nothing here, so it might just roll around here for good...
So instead of calling it 'lamed by magic photons'...we should call it 'got rolled by some big bursters'?
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Why, yes, I suppose we could... duck!.. (RROOOLLLL)...phew...
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"Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!"
I WANT THIS SHIP!!!
So, any updates?
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No new WIP's yet, but it's coming along nicely. I'm making both the versions that Atolm posted, the one with the necelles side by side and the one with them over and under. It's actually quite nice. I'll have some more WIP's soon.
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Thanks Capt. KoraH for the update. So, it appears that we're gonna get two models for the price of one
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No new WIP's yet, but it's coming along nicely. I'm making both the versions that Atolm posted, the one with the necelles side by side and the one with them over and under. It's actually quite nice. I'll have some more WIP's soon.
Wow Thanks Cap!!!!
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in this case, maybe Capatain Korah oughta be nicknamed Cap'n Crunch!
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*Bump*
Just sitting here, wide eyed, wondering, wishing...
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La la la la la.....is it time to begin my texturing yet? heheh
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LOL
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I'm not normally a TNG type of guy, but this design looks good. I'm very curious as to how this will turn out.
I_Mudd.
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UH OH...5 pages Korah,
everyone is waiting on you now
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BTW thanks Mudd, for the vote of praise
You are not the only one waiting to see how she comes out
so take a number lol
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bump...getting kinda low...you know?
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Page 2? I think not! hehe
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I agree
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Ok, here is another WIP to show how things are progressing. I fixed the saucer section and the "cape" to Atolm's specs, re-smoothed the secondary hull, and started on the warp nacelle spars. I'm making the nacelles seperately and will drop them in when the rest of the main ship mesh is done. It shouldn't be long now!
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HOLY "F"ING CRAP!!!
Just when I thought you were out(literally...I thought Capt, that you were going to call a Quits on the project...Man you are amazing..Thank you)
Man I donot surprise easily...but this , this is greatness...Thank you
That has too be one of the coolest things that I have ever seen...and in Blue...sweetness
Thanks again Capt.
Damn...Thanks
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Bumb for those who missed her epic return!!!
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Ok the mesh is finished. This is the over-and-under nacelle design. I'll make the side-by-side variant too as time permits. This is a bare mesh, with no textures, hardpoints, damage points, break model ect ect, and is just for texturing, not for playing with. Download the TNG Andor mesh here.
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Wow thanks Man...now all we need is Smiley
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BTW...THANK YOU CAPTAIN KORAH!!!
YOU DA MAN!!!
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You guys are very welcome. I hope Smiley can put some nice skins on her.