Post by: Smiley on October 16, 2003, 10:26:49 pm
Look familiar Azel?
Post by: Azel on October 16, 2003, 11:05:55 pm
awesome!!!
Post by: Kaenyne on October 17, 2003, 07:57:38 am
Post by: Smiley on October 17, 2003, 09:42:05 am
Post by: Steelviper33 on October 17, 2003, 09:48:22 am
dude, you should make a video tutorial on how you make textures, it would really help alot of us out.
Post by: MarianoDT on October 17, 2003, 12:20:50 pm
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How do you do this?!?
dude, you should make a video tutorial on how you make textures, it would really help alot of us out.
I second that, even a writen tutorial would be great. I find very difficult to make a texture from scratch.
I īve tried using some renders from the differents parts of the ship I wanted to make and then modify/detail this files, but there must be a better way...!!!!
Please...
Even if you are tired of reading this ALL the time let me tell you that YOUR WORK IS AWESOME...!!!!!
Thanks,
Mariano
Post by: Azel on October 18, 2003, 08:59:39 am
Post by: Steelviper33 on October 18, 2003, 12:35:10 pm
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How do you do this?!?
dude, you should make a video tutorial on how you make textures, it would really help alot of us out.
I second that, even a writen tutorial would be great. I find very difficult to make a texture from scratch.
I īve tried using some renders from the differents parts of the ship I wanted to make and then modify/detail this files, but there must be a better way...!!!!
Please...
Even if you are tired of reading this ALL the time let me tell you that YOUR WORK IS AWESOME...!!!!!
Thanks,
Mariano
Bump...smiley, and chance of doing a vid-tutorial?
Post by: sandman69247 on October 18, 2003, 12:49:18 pm
You must do a tut for us lowly peons...please!! I still try to figure out what you did on my Cherokee, and think "Man! I'd give my left nut to texture that good!" 
If not a video tut, then at least a written one...hell, do it up in html and I'll put it up at my site. Only needs to be one aspect...probably the saucer. Most of what would need to be learned for the whole ship can be taught on the saucer.PRETTY PLEASE WITH G'AGH ON TOP!?!
Post by: Smiley on October 18, 2003, 04:47:23 pm
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BTW guys teh ship is my Tempest-Class, USS Xavier...as more pics become available you will see why
Damn, I didn't know what you wanted it to be called so I put "USS Tempest" all over her shiny hull, lol, oh well - thaat I can change!
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TUTORIAL, TUTORIAL, TUTORIAL!!!! You must do a tut for us lowly peons...please!! I still try to figure out what you did on my Cherokee, and think "Man! I'd give my left nut to texture that good!" If not a video tut, then at least a written one...hell, do it up in html and I'll put it up at my site. Only needs to be one aspect...probably the saucer. Most of what would need to be learned for the whole ship can be taught on the saucer.
PRETTY PLEASE WITH G'AGH ON TOP!?!
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I second that, even a writen tutorial would be great. I find very difficult to make a texture from scratch.
I īve tried using some renders from the differents parts of the ship I wanted to make and then modify/detail this files, but there must be a better way...!!!!
Hmm, a video tutorial isn't really practical as I texture in a very sporadic fashion, and although you would definitely see exactly how I did something, sometimes it's more luck than judgement!
However I can definitely do an illustrated written tutorial, maybe even with some sample files and stuff if that would be of any use to you guys.
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Even if you are tired of reading this ALL the time let me tell you that YOUR WORK IS AWESOME...!!!!!
:Big griin: Hehe thankyou very much!
I only got two hours sleep last night and I had work all day today, and work all day tomorrow too, so I won't be doing much tonight.
Post by: I_Mudd on October 18, 2003, 05:42:14 pm
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... only got two hours sleep last night and I had work all day today, and work all day tomorrow too, so I won't be doing much tonight.
heh ...
I know that feeling all too well.
I_Mudd.
Post by: Azel on October 18, 2003, 07:33:32 pm
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BTW guys teh ship is my Tempest-Class, USS Xavier...as more pics become available you will see why
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Damn, I didn't know what you wanted it to be called so I put "USS Tempest" all over her shiny hull, lol, oh well - thaat I can change!
No Don't...Its cool
She will be the prototype
Post by: Steelviper33 on October 19, 2003, 09:09:48 am
Post by: Azel on October 19, 2003, 10:22:13 pm
Post by: Smiley on October 20, 2003, 10:26:04 am
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Bump in hopes of Smiley writing that tutorial, im quaking in my chair as we speak.
lol, give me a chance
Post by: Smiley on October 20, 2003, 02:46:49 pm
Post by: Kaenyne on October 20, 2003, 02:51:29 pm
You've got a masterwork there, man.
I want you and Azel making ships for the next Trek movie.
Berman, are you reading this?
Post by: Azel on October 20, 2003, 05:03:31 pm
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Smiley:
You've got a masterwork there, man.
I want you and Azel making ships for the next Trek movie.
Berman, are you reading this?
Thanks Man!!!
That means alot man...I am sure that it does for Smiley aswell
As for Berman...well as much as I would LOVE to work for Star Trek designing ships(And of course working with Smiley on them
), I have never gotten a response to my queries other than,"Your work is good, but Sorry we are a full house now, and are not looking for anyone new.", or they want schooling in the Arts...as for me I study the sciences, and am too far along in the sciences to go an start over now(silly me...I thought that it would be better to go to school to learn something that can be acually weighed with grades...Art to me is just too arbortrary and cannot be a graded aspect of life)But thanks man
Post by: Smiley on October 20, 2003, 08:19:45 pm
One more pic before bed...
Post by: James Formo on October 21, 2003, 03:02:12 pm
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Smiley:
You've got a masterwork there, man.
I want you and Azel making ships for the next Trek movie.
Berman, are you reading this?
Thanks Man!!!
That means alot man...I am sure that it does for Smiley aswell
As for Berman...well as much as I would LOVE to work for Star Trek designing ships(And of course working with Smiley on them
But thanks man
The thing is. Game companies have requirements and restrictions regarding poly counts. ie: SFC3 had a 1000 poligon limit per model with exception of the Borg cube (1500). They also limit the size and number of bitmaps. Modelers in the forum ships look better largely because they are higher poly and use multiple bitmaps. This may be partly why they are suggesting schooling where you would learn how to make lower poly models. Plus if they have other modelers and they all have met school requirements, it would then be odd for them to hire someone without them. Not too mention that it would be easier to communicate with modelers using max if you are familiar with all operations and terminology max uses.
Your stating that you are going to school for science also implies that that is more important to you. If you are serious about a career in 3d you might want to consider formal training in the software that gamers are using. It might be only a 1 year program that is necessary, which perhaps you could squeeze in between your other courses.
Post by: WickedZombie45 on October 21, 2003, 03:28:34 pm
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This may be partly why they are suggesting schooling where you would learn how to make lower poly models.
Somehow I doubt a modeler would need to go to school to make their ships less detailed as everyone starts out making low res ships. It's kinda like sending someone to learn how to crawl even though that's the first thing they did as a baby (well, next to crying for their pacifier). This isn't exactly a 'set in stone' art form where once you make something it can't be changed or undone. Making a 1000 polygon model is damned easy - you just have to model the basic shape of the object and then modify it accordingly. If you go over the set limit, you can just chop off more parts.
Post by: Azel on October 21, 2003, 03:35:43 pm
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The thing is. Game companies have requirements and restrictions regarding poly counts. ie: SFC3 had a 1000 poligon limit per model with exception of the Borg cube (1500). They also limit the size and number of bitmaps. Modelers in the forum ships look better largely because they are higher poly and use multiple bitmaps. This may be partly why they are suggesting schooling where you would learn how to make lower poly models. Plus if they have other modelers and they all have met school requirements, it would then be odd for them to hire someone without them. Not too mention that it would be easier to communicate with modelers using max if you are familiar with all operations and terminology max uses.
Your stating that you are going to school for science also implies that that is more important to you. If you are serious about a career in 3d you might want to consider formal training in the software that gamers are using. It might be only a 1 year program that is necessary, which perhaps you could squeeze in between your other courses.
I was not reffering to Video games man
I was talking about designing starships for Paramount...or another place ILM etc...I am a conceptual designer...it is what I do...if some says "hey I need a monster/ship for a film", I am your man...If you want something that you have never seen before(please excuse my ill-modesty here guys...sorry) I am your man.
I study science because it is what i like..Art is however my life..I didn't persue it in college because it was less important to me...but because I cannot stand art classes. Unless I am being payed I will not be told what to draw, sculpt or paint anything and be judged on it if I am not in the mood(if that makes sense).
I use science in My art...iT has helped me in Far more and many ways man...
But thanks for the comment
Post by: James Formo on October 21, 2003, 03:41:11 pm
I once took a basic art course in painting, It wasn't my major. We had an assignment and we were required to use a certain color. I used a different color, saying that art is expression and color should not be assigned. I ended up with a C. The instructor felt that we needed the fundenmentals before we could express ourselves. I am not stating my beliefs on this subject. Just pointing out that a prospective hirer might be looking at things from a different perspective. They may be looking for an artist that can follow rigid requirements. They may have an large say in what the finished product must look like and may not allow the artist to vary much from there required end product. They may just have a school requirement and thats the bottom line. An artist could always learn from instuction regardless of how advanced there skills. If they feel they can not. Its probably that there ego has gotten too big.
This was posted before your last post Azel, Just after WZ45's. So it might seem that it doesn't fit your last comments, that is why. And I did not realize you were referring to strictly design so my bad there. Your designs definitely rock so best of luck in your effoerts along those lines. I thought you were trying to get into 3d modeling.
Post by: sandman69247 on October 21, 2003, 03:58:08 pm
Azel, for you I would say to stay freelance and design your stuff. You can sell original designs and artwork...it's just ST related stuff that is off limits. I know I would love to be able to do that myself, but I'm more technically sound that artistically. Show me a design and I can probably do a good job recreating it, but designing my own stuff...well let's just say the few I have done were baaadddd, really baaaddddd.
Post by: Azel on October 21, 2003, 03:59:13 pm
Post by: Smiley on October 21, 2003, 07:42:37 pm
Post by: Azel on October 21, 2003, 08:37:46 pm
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BUMP...(before Azel does it for me, lol)
Trying to be Funny...LOL
well it worked lol
I should have some dominion ships by friday
Post by: Smiley on October 23, 2003, 09:15:21 am
Also I was wondering; what's the history on this ship? The unusual nacelles that it has - is there any special reason for them to be shaped like this? I need some ideas so that I can texture them - I take it from the name that this has some connection to time travelling?
Post by: Kaenyne on October 23, 2003, 09:27:40 am
I know I've harped on this before, so snack me uip side the head if it feels good, but I think you and Azel are more than ready to take on the Titan Class from ussmiranda.com. Her primary hull looks somewhat like the Tempest, but the secondary hull and nacelles are more traditional. Just passing that along...(slinks away).
Post by: Azel on October 23, 2003, 10:17:21 am
As for possible Transwarp , Slipstream, or even Space Folding..that maybe more fesable...I don't know
LOL
She's still looking awesome man
Post by: Smiley on October 24, 2003, 03:51:42 pm
OK here goes; Can I please Sir change the nacelles on the Tempest to something a little easier to say...um...like this?
Post by: Azel on October 24, 2003, 03:56:10 pm
Post by: Smiley on October 24, 2003, 03:57:51 pm
Can you make a quick diagram of what you imagine the nacelles to look like when textured?
I'm not even sure where the Warp Field Grilles go on the current ones!
Post by: Azel on October 24, 2003, 04:01:00 pm
Post by: Smiley on October 24, 2003, 04:02:49 pm
Post by: Azel on October 24, 2003, 04:18:25 pm
You may have to work with the mesh for some details though
Post by: Smiley on October 24, 2003, 04:24:10 pm
That's pretty funky!
Any special reason for the blue bussards, just out of interest?
Thanks for being so speedy
Post by: Azel on October 24, 2003, 04:25:15 pm
And I always Come to my friends when they call me
Post by: Smiley on October 24, 2003, 05:31:14 pm
Post by: Azel on October 24, 2003, 06:14:03 pm
Just remember to keep that cross section shape and overall shape of the original
Post by: Azel on October 24, 2003, 06:17:15 pm
The ships is supposed to be fast..
Post by: Smiley on October 24, 2003, 06:17:49 pm
Post by: Azel on October 24, 2003, 06:19:45 pm
...My Bad
Post by: Smiley on October 25, 2003, 01:18:10 pm
Post by: Azel on October 25, 2003, 01:27:36 pm
Post by: Smiley on October 25, 2003, 01:34:37 pm
Post by: Azel on October 25, 2003, 01:38:21 pm
and show me a top view if you can...thanks
Post by: Smiley on October 25, 2003, 01:50:55 pm
Starting again with my eyes open this time! Apologies for the delay...again!
Post by: Azel on October 25, 2003, 01:57:20 pm
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Argh! Because I didn't look at the cross section picture in the beginning it has all gone horribly wrong now that I try and match it up. It's creating mesh errors left, right and centre.
Starting again with my eyes open this time! Apologies for the delay...again!
Dude don't get fustrated, its My fault...I should have been more conservative in my ideas my bad man
Post by: Smiley on October 25, 2003, 02:00:08 pm
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Argh! Because I didn't look at the cross section picture in the beginning it has all gone horribly wrong now that I try and match it up. It's creating mesh errors left, right and centre.
Starting again with my eyes open this time! Apologies for the delay...again!
Dude don't get fustrated, its My fault...I should have been more conservative in my ideas my bad man
LOL that's a good one, I'm not frustrated anymore - I just don't want to keep you waiting any longer than necessary. Never keep your ideas conversative, it's your imagination that makes your designs so full of the "wow" factor
Post by: Azel on October 25, 2003, 02:12:53 pm
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Argh! Because I didn't look at the cross section picture in the beginning it has all gone horribly wrong now that I try and match it up. It's creating mesh errors left, right and centre.
Starting again with my eyes open this time! Apologies for the delay...again!
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Dude don't get fustrated, its My fault...I should have been more conservative in my ideas my bad man
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LOL that's a good one, I'm not frustrated anymore - I just don't want to keep you waiting any longer than necessary. Never keep your ideas conversative, it's your imagination that makes your designs so full of the "wow" factor
Thanks man...Could you not have just used my original warp necelle mesh and just made mesh modifications???
Post by: Smiley on October 25, 2003, 06:11:11 pm
Post by: Azel on October 25, 2003, 07:48:13 pm
!!!
Amazing job man
Post by: Smiley on October 26, 2003, 03:58:05 pm
Post by: Azel on October 26, 2003, 06:22:15 pm
Post by: Smiley on October 27, 2003, 07:23:15 am
How about that?
Post by: Azel on October 27, 2003, 02:29:54 pm
Post by: Anthony_Scott on October 28, 2003, 10:52:18 am
Semper Fi, Carry On
Post by: Kaenyne on October 28, 2003, 11:58:21 am
Greta job Smiley. This ship looks better and better with each update!
Post by: Reverend on October 28, 2003, 12:40:45 pm
Post by: Azel on October 29, 2003, 07:38:06 am
Post by: Smiley on October 29, 2003, 02:06:44 pm
Post by: Azel on October 29, 2003, 03:30:31 pm
JUST FREAKIN AWESOME!!!
Hey Smiley here Is something for you:)
http://www.frost-works.com/watchtower/NewDefiant.zip
Enjoy
Just one thing...after the Tempest...can we get to the Andor???
Please lol
Post by: Kaenyne on October 29, 2003, 03:36:18 pm
I'm stunned, simply stunned....(faints)
Post by: Smiley on October 29, 2003, 05:17:07 pm
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Awesome!!!!
JUST FREAKIN AWESOME!!!
Hey Smiley here Is something for you:)
http://www.frost-works.com/watchtower/NewDefiant.zip
Enjoy
Just one thing...after the Tempest...can we get to the Andor???
Please lol
Hey thanks Azel, it's very reassuring to know that you still like her after I modified the mesh so much!
Of course I'll move on to finishing the Andor as soon as I have completed the textures on the Tempest
Then it's either on to doing the Defiant refit that you have very kindly posted a link to - or even maybe I'll build your Sentry before texturing the Defiant- I have to say that I really really love that Sentry design! And it's been a while since a made a mesh, don't want to get out of practice!
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Duh, duh, duh, DUDE!!!
I'm stunned, simply stunned....(faints)
Thanks! I'm glad that you like it!
Just have to map the line of polies down the sides of the secondary hull, the bit underneath and then the bottom of the saucer and a few bits on the neck and then it will be done!
Post by: Azel on October 29, 2003, 05:22:47 pm
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Hey thanks Azel, it's very reassuring to know that you still like her after I modified the mesh so much!
Of course I'll move on to finishing the Andor as soon as I have completed the textures on the Tempest
Then it's either on to doing the Defiant refit that you have very kindly posted a link to - or even maybe I'll build your Sentry before texturing the Defiant- I have to say that I really really love that Sentry design! And it's been a while since a made a mesh, don't want to get out of practice!
Ok I can Mesh the sentry...but you will have to Tweak it...as I am not that good yet ...but I'll get you the basic shape
Thanks man
And you Have done and are doing a Damn impressive job on that Tempest...Damned Fine!!!
Thanks
Glad you liked the Defiant...I tweaked the look alittle so more of my style for the 2000's that drawing was done
back in 96
Thanks again man!!!
Post by: Azel on October 29, 2003, 05:36:36 pm
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Ok I can Mesh the sentry...but you will have to Tweak it...as I am not that good yet ...but I'll get you the basic shape
That is unless you would want to mesh it on your own
Post by: Reverend on October 29, 2003, 11:09:04 pm
Post by: Smiley on October 30, 2003, 08:23:59 am
Righty-ho - drawing nearer to completion now - I'm a little fed up with some of the areas on the ship that I have started to texture but don't really feel right about!
For example, the bit that I've done on the neck with the large triangles looks completely wrong now that I've done it! Any ideas/pointers? Help at this stage would certainly speed things along a bit! :hint hint:
EDIT: D'Oh - forgot to add the picture! lol
Post by: Kaenyne on October 30, 2003, 08:59:30 am
Post by: Azel on October 30, 2003, 09:12:03 am
I think I like them!!!
The only other thing I could drop in there instead or include with the black triangles would be Vents like the Excelsior class
BTW is that a quantum launcher in that dark area???
if it is you may want to swap that with either an auxillary deflector or sensor pallete(or just combo them as you hseem to have plenty of room in there next to the lonely blue light)
Or just at some photon torps launcher to the sides of that blue Quantum launcher
Thanks:)
BTW when you get to that rear Alcove under the ship...Can you add a Light Blue ambient light coming from inside there, Reminiscent of the Excelsior class in ST 6 closing sequence???
As for the Sentry By all means sir
I would have to be
to not let you Hey did you get my email???
Post by: Anthony_Scott on October 30, 2003, 09:42:54 am
Semper Fi, Carry On
Post by: Smiley on October 30, 2003, 10:48:29 am
Wine? Is it red? lol don't let me near any wine until I have finished at least 5 more ships, or else I might get mobbed by angry Taldrenites, rofl! j/k
Azel, yup I received your email, replied a few minutes ago
I have made the previous torpedo turret thingy into a auxillary deflector of sorts, but I was wondering if you would mind if I added a dedicated quantum pulse turret to the bottom of the aux deflector- Similar in style to that of the venerable Sovereign class's?
Once again, thankyou all
Post by: Azel on October 30, 2003, 11:08:59 am
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Azel, yup I received your email, replied a few minutes ago
I have made the previous torpedo turret thingy into a auxillary deflector of sorts, but I was wondering if you would mind if I added a dedicated quantum pulse turret to the bottom of the aux deflector- Similar in style to that of the venerable Sovereign class's?
Once again, thankyou all
By all means sir
And no it should be I thanking you
Post by: Kaenyne on October 30, 2003, 11:10:52 am
Post by: Captain Ron on October 30, 2003, 12:50:30 pm
no I am not Don...
Don't take offense here as I will be brief (I hate to type)
Ok I was looking over your posted picks and it looks as if the bottom of the saucer is far less detailed. Even though it is smooth like the top it seems to follow a different pattern to the textures, the sovereign is a different beast and doesn't quite fit here as the mold to use. I would lighten or fade the red around the phaser ring that dark colour makes it look toyish. The triangles on the side I would eother make as one rectangle with horazontal details, maybe a recessed area there, or make the top black with the bottom the same as the aztec pattern of the saucer with windows (give them a recessed look at the top). the black can be staight at the top and extend from the first triangle all the way to the engine pylons. the bottom will have a curved line fron the pylon all the way to the bottom of that first triangle. You can use the piece on the pylon as the line up maker for the work the triangle as the other.
Add flush vents to the bottom ofthe engines on the saucer. I would use that same pattern you use on the top of the saucer on the center lower part, the aztec with the lines through it just on a smaller scale. Lastly rap the thrusters on the saucer to the underside as well, Yes I know they can be a pain to line up but it adds great detail with out getting into tiny detail work.
Post by: Azel on October 30, 2003, 02:07:54 pm
Post by: Smiley on October 30, 2003, 06:50:57 pm
Some of what you say I understand, but there are few bits that I can't visualise! Now I know now that you don't like to type but maybe you can draw me a picture? (Without me sounding too stupid!)
I'm working Friday 11:00-20:00 ao I don't know if I'll get much, if anything done
- then it's off to a birthday party 40 odd miles away in Tewkesbury! Getting drunk on a boat...hmm sounds dangerous...lol, I'll be back...maybe!
Post by: Azel on October 30, 2003, 09:01:55 pm
LOL
Post by: Azel on November 02, 2003, 04:08:50 pm
Post by: Smiley on November 03, 2003, 06:46:05 pm
Post by: Azel on November 03, 2003, 07:04:14 pm
Just try not to loose those awesome retro homage paying triangles in the fowards the front of the bottom saucer textures please
Post by: Azel on November 03, 2003, 07:05:14 pm
THANKS MAN!!!
Post by: Desty_Nova on November 03, 2003, 07:42:47 pm
Post by: Reverend on November 04, 2003, 02:13:21 am
Post by: CurlyWht72521 on November 04, 2003, 08:03:19 am
< i love this guy!
Post by: Kaenyne on November 04, 2003, 08:49:40 am
Post by: Smiley on November 04, 2003, 08:18:44 pm
Thanks, I do try
Azel: Noted, the retro homage triangles will stay!
Small update, started upper deck texturing (please note that I haven't built the bridge yet):
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on November 04, 2003, 09:42:26 pm
Nice work though.
Qapla!
KF
Post by: starforce2 on November 04, 2003, 10:04:15 pm
Post by: Smiley on November 05, 2003, 10:44:29 am
Perhaps once I have exhausted the supply of Fed ships that require texturing, then I will move on to the Romulans!
I've finished the bridge, I'm quite pleased with how the dorsal surfaces of the ship are looking, although I think that I need to redo the pylon textures before it's finished, now - back to the ventral saucer texture! Hopefully I'll get some more done before we go off to the first showing of Matrix: Revolutions in Oxford tonight!
Post by: Azel on November 05, 2003, 07:30:39 pm
Post by: Azel on November 06, 2003, 04:04:29 pm
Post by: Azel on November 07, 2003, 03:05:23 pm
Post by: Smiley on November 07, 2003, 06:48:01 pm
Post by: Kaenyne on November 07, 2003, 11:05:32 pm
And the phaser strips look good.
Post by: sandman69247 on November 07, 2003, 11:16:30 pm
Everything else looks fan-fricken-tastic.
Post by: Azel on November 07, 2003, 11:54:54 pm
Awesome
and yeah a phaser in the front top saucer
too please
Post by: Heavens_Eagle on November 09, 2003, 12:16:36 am
Post by: Azel on November 10, 2003, 06:31:28 pm
Post by: Azel on November 12, 2003, 05:03:00 pm
Post by: Smiley on November 12, 2003, 09:17:04 pm
Opinions please people, is it finished?
Post by: Fire Blade on November 12, 2003, 09:41:28 pm
Post by: Azel on November 12, 2003, 11:07:48 pm
Post by: E_Look on November 12, 2003, 11:11:04 pm
Post by: Captain Ron on November 13, 2003, 01:03:32 am
The only other thing is the bottom of the warp engines looks plane than compared to the rest of the ship.
Yup a nit pick I know but you spent to much of your life on it now not to make it prefect. She is a beautiful ship as she is now, and considering what you did to the rest of her it would seem a shame not to have finish these last details.
Post by: Smiley on November 13, 2003, 07:04:45 am
Post by: Smiley on November 13, 2003, 02:06:26 pm
Post by: Captain Ron on November 13, 2003, 02:12:11 pm
As for the pylons, if it were me doing it. I would use that texture you used for the background on the lower hull with the windows on it (minus the windows) as 4-5 retangles on the pylons.
So it would be the light gray backing as now the checkered layer over it in 4 or 5 retangles then the current one over that. maybe some kind of flush vents in the front and back like all the TMP ships have (Consititution II, Excelsior, and Sov)
Post by: Kaenyne on November 13, 2003, 02:28:52 pm
I'm not an expert by any means, but the pylons are almost matching the hull, so you are getting closer...
Post by: Smiley on November 13, 2003, 02:31:21 pm
Post by: Captain Ron on November 13, 2003, 06:21:45 pm
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Ok, can you post a pic of these flush vents because I am not sure what you mean?
Sure can
Consititution II
Excel
Sov
Basically a way to vent plasma if something goes wrong with an engine.
Post by: Azel on November 13, 2003, 06:40:54 pm
Simply stunning man!!!
Thanks man...Thanks alot
You the MAN
Post by: Smiley on November 14, 2003, 03:35:55 am
And I thought that less was more! Haha, well maybe more is um...more? Do the latest details finish her off? (yet?)
Post by: Captain Ron on November 14, 2003, 03:49:32 am
Less is more only when you are in a dicussion with a short amount of time, because you push for Quality not quanty at that point. With textures less seems to be uneventful and more can definiatily look better especially if you can get more without looking cluttered (very difficult to do).
Not exactly what I was expecting but I do really like it! You have pulled it off nicily in my opinion so I would say it was done and done as a master piece (I look forward to stealing some textures off it)
Good job smiley!
(so where is the download link at?)
Post by: Smiley on November 14, 2003, 04:16:34 am
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And I thought that less was more! Haha, well maybe more is um...more? Do the latest details finish her off? (yet?)
Less is more only when you are in a dicussion with a short amount of time, because you push for Quality not quanty at that point. With textures less seems to be uneventful and more can definiatily look better especially if you can get more without looking cluttered (very difficult to do).
Not exactly what I was expecting but I do really like it! You have pulled it off nicily in my opinion so I would say it was done and done as a master piece (I look forward to stealing some textures off it)
Good job smiley!
(so where is the download link at?)
Hehe, I'm very pleased to read your post Mon Capitain! I hope that it lives up to at least some of the kind words said in this thread
As for downloads....well I think that Azel should see the model first, as it is his ship. Once he's approved it then I'll see about posting a link - hopefully at good ol' Mackie's site.
At the moment it has about 9 1024x1024 textures, a few 512x1024s and a few more of smaller sizes! I'm not sure it would be practical to have so many high resolution textures in-game...!?
Bridge Commander maybe, but SFC...hmmm.....
What do you reckon? 2 versions, one high res and one lower one?
Post by: Kaenyne on November 14, 2003, 08:29:35 am
Clear all moorings! One quarter impulse power. Navigator, set a course for the Romulan Neutral Zone. Let's show 'em what we got!
(and yeah, a lower poly version would help too.)
Post by: Captain Ron on November 14, 2003, 11:26:10 am
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And I thought that less was more! Haha, well maybe more is um...more? Do the latest details finish her off? (yet?)
Less is more only when you are in a dicussion with a short amount of time, because you push for Quality not quanty at that point. With textures less seems to be uneventful and more can definiatily look better especially if you can get more without looking cluttered (very difficult to do).
Not exactly what I was expecting but I do really like it! You have pulled it off nicily in my opinion so I would say it was done and done as a master piece (I look forward to stealing some textures off it)
Good job smiley!
(so where is the download link at?)
Hehe, I'm very pleased to read your post Mon Capitain! I hope that it lives up to at least some of the kind words said in this thread
As for downloads....well I think that Azel should see the model first, as it is his ship. Once he's approved it then I'll see about posting a link - hopefully at good ol' Mackie's site.
At the moment it has about 9 1024x1024 textures, a few 512x1024s and a few more of smaller sizes! I'm not sure it would be practical to have so many high resolution textures in-game...!?
Bridge Commander maybe, but SFC...hmmm.....
What do you reckon? 2 versions, one high res and one lower one?
Textures of large size are more of a function of the video card. Anyone who plays the current FPS games out there will be able to handle that. all the Saucer sections textures I do are at 1024 x 1024 so they seem to work. Khalibans Enterprise was at 1024 x 1024 (4), 1024 x 512 (2), and rest 512 x 512 and that was out what 2 years ago? I would say release her at normal size and see how it goes or have a few ppl test it. I have a Geforce 4 Ti so I can handle the higher end one, but I don't know what everyone else uses. The main advantage of shrinking textures is it reduces the size in the file and makes it easier for older cards to handle (3,000 kb for a 1024 x 1024, but only 800 kb for 512 x 512) but it does reduce that details as well. It also depends on the DPI settings you did them at, if they are at 120 or so (or less) when you convert them move the resolution to 200+ and you might be able to save that detail without it blurring away on you.
So I would save the orginal make a copy and see were you are with DPIs' on the textures you might be able to shrink a few of those big ones. Any texture of the 1024 x 1024 size that doesn't have allot of detail can also be shruck down, the 1024 x 512 again depends what is on them and anything 512 x 512 and smaller doesn't matter. What I am worried about is the small details like the aztec you used that will almost disappear into a blur depending on the settings you started with.
Post by: Reverend on November 14, 2003, 11:52:42 am
she looks fantastic, she really does Smiley- thank you for you dedication- we all appreciate it...
Post by: Azel on November 14, 2003, 03:20:26 pm
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Post by: Heavens_Eagle on November 17, 2003, 11:17:22 pm
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Post by: Smiley on November 20, 2003, 09:41:38 am
Post by: Azel on November 20, 2003, 09:47:04 am
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Yes she will, once I have finished my coursework and my exams
NICE!!!
Along with the Andor???
Post by: Core on November 21, 2003, 05:53:40 pm
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Post by: Kaenyne on December 01, 2003, 01:07:18 pm
Post by: Smiley on December 01, 2003, 04:48:14 pm
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You know the drill...
One word: Exams
Post by: Azel on December 01, 2003, 07:48:07 pm
Good Luck on them man!!!
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on December 26, 2003, 11:23:06 am
Post by: Reverend on December 26, 2003, 11:35:10 pm
Quote:Threeeee timessss, a laddyyyy...
oh-oh-oh-oh BUMP me girl, uh! once times, twice times!
Post by: Fury_of_a_Seraph on January 12, 2004, 09:00:08 pm
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Post by: starwolf3500 on February 19, 2004, 09:10:18 pm
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Old thread alert!!
Maybe, but it's a Great oldie!
~S~
Post by: ModelsPlease on February 20, 2004, 02:56:22 am
Unbelievable work,I must have this ship. -MP
Post by: Azel on February 20, 2004, 01:07:45 pm
KKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNN!!!!!
Post by: Kaenyne on February 20, 2004, 01:54:53 pm
SMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!
Post by: ModelsPlease on February 24, 2004, 02:53:25 am
Post by: Smiley on February 26, 2004, 06:58:23 am
Post by: ModelsPlease on February 27, 2004, 08:10:46 pm
-MP
Post by: Kaenyne on March 10, 2004, 12:34:08 pm
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