Post by: anduril on November 15, 2003, 09:59:42 am
The Federation CVA.
I wanted to keep this one to 3200 or less and I'm close to that but I'd like to cut in a couple torp launchers and possibly the fighter bay doors. So it will be decision time this weekend. After Atrahasis came out with his smooth decked ncl and nca I of course had to spend a few polies and make the long spine of this ship match! A lot of the hull is one piece so that cost me a few faces but I like em that way as it may save me a texture sheet which will more than pay for a face or two.
Of course the SCS will follow.
And....just to whet your appetite. Dispatches have been intercepted that have indicated that another independant shipyard is making a competing CVA design....
Well not so independant as one might think.
Post by: sandman69247 on November 15, 2003, 10:39:36 am
Post by: Terradyhne on November 15, 2003, 10:46:07 am
Post by: Fire Blade on November 15, 2003, 11:01:54 am
Post by: Rogue on November 15, 2003, 11:43:01 am
Status report for the SFC community.
-Wicked Zombie; never left and went on a streak of some really fun new models.
-Atrahasis; returns with a vengence! Polishes up his fleet and having fun with new stuff.
-Dark Drone; comes home and sparks the GAW project!
-Hollis J Wood; Who woulda thunk? Glad to see this man again
-Thu11s; returns from extended holiday!
-111wallace111; annonces a new homepage!
-Anduril; see preceeding posts. Great modeler and yer basic good guy.
-New people doing amazing stuff. FireSouls OP+ project, Desty Nova, I Mudd, Smiley...
Did I miss anyone? Likey... excuse please.
Just how good is this? I would guess that we couldn't hope for much better.
PS. Klingon Fanatic still hoping for his Melak.
Post by: CptSavage on November 15, 2003, 11:55:19 am
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 15, 2003, 11:56:18 am
Those Warps are really nice looking, Anduril.
Post by: Atrahasis on November 15, 2003, 12:01:18 pm
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 15, 2003, 12:04:59 pm
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As always, happy to see a WIP posted by one of the starship model crafters that has given so much to the community. Need I even say this looks good?
Status report for the SFC community.
-Wicked Zombie; never left and went on a streak of some really fun new models.
-Atrahasis; returns with a vengence! Polishes up his fleet and having fun with new stuff.
-Dark Drone; comes home and sparks the GAW project!
-Hollis J Wood; Who woulda thunk? Glad to see this man again
-Thu11s; returns from extended holiday!
-111wallace111; annonces a new homepage!
-Anduril; see preceeding posts. Great modeler and yer basic good guy.
-New people doing amazing stuff. FireSouls OP+ project, Desty Nova, I Mudd, Smiley...
Did I miss anyone? Likey... excuse please.
Just how good is this? I would guess that we couldn't hope for much better.
PS. Klingon Fanatic still hoping for his Melak.
If the SFC Community were on the stock exchange, I would buy - certainly it is trending up...
Post by: anduril on November 15, 2003, 01:19:49 pm
A it's a testament to your 3 year old ship and it's longevity that it's taken me this long to make a version of my own!
I'll just edit this post to add a pic of a very subtle tos paneling effect I'm putting on my saucers now.
Post by: TheStressPuppy on November 15, 2003, 03:09:11 pm
i got it as ark royal ncc-2203. i dont have a source for carrier names. awsome work.Yes it does seem like the "Old School" is returning.. now all we need is moonraker
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 15, 2003, 03:26:32 pm
Way...
Post by: Atrahasis on November 15, 2003, 03:26:34 pm
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Thanks all.
A it's a testament to your 3 year old ship and it's longevity that it's taken me this long to make a version of my own!
I'll just edit this post to add a pic of a very subtle tos paneling effect I'm putting on my saucers now.
A, I like the TOS registry style, but for this ship you may (I'm not recommending it per se but throwing a suggestion out) want to use the TMP-style-font because even the SFB material / art portrays the more advanced ships with that type of font. Or you can do both and see how it looks. Either way it'll be awesome.
PS You spelled "caesar" wrong! :P
Post by: anduril on November 15, 2003, 03:29:53 pm
I'm already considering using the TMP symbols for the hull pennant and changing the bridge dome to the Phase 2 one anyways.
You know I had it right the first time then I looked at a shiplist someone posted with the feddies on it and then changed it....
Got burned.
Post by: Atrahasis on November 15, 2003, 03:34:50 pm
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Not a bad suggestion A.
I'm already considering using the TMP symbols for the hull pennant and changing the bridge dome to the Phase 2 one anyways.
You know I had it right the first time then I looked at a shiplist someone posted with the feddies on it and then changed it....
Got burned.
Those are good ideas too. Was it an oversight on Franz's part that his design for the DN did not have the bridge turbolift shafts? A ship that big, as well as the carrier here, need at least two shafts.
If you give it the TMP pennants and fonts, it would fit more into my theory that the TOS-style was an entire design philosphophy that existed right alongside the TMP design philosophy, and that the two styles were not just "old" vs "new".
Also, another thing I've been thinking of re the TOS-style deflector dishes, is that in the middle you have a ring of "blue glowie" similar to the way they did it with the def dish on the Galaxy. It would indicate an advanced design and yet still retain that TOS flavor. What do ya think?
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 15, 2003, 03:53:49 pm
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Not a bad suggestion A.
I'm already considering using the TMP symbols for the hull pennant and changing the bridge dome to the Phase 2 one anyways.
Yea that would look sharp. maybe do the class prototype "Napolean" in TOS and the "Caesar" TMP as above...
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You know I had it right the first time then I looked at a shiplist someone posted with the feddies on it and then changed it....
Got burned.
Im using the latest Chris Jones SFB shiplsts as my refernces. Imported it in Excel spreadsheet along with the fighter list. Then I color coded all fed ships divided by classes. Works great!
Post by: Desty_Nova on November 15, 2003, 05:06:05 pm
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Not a bad suggestion A.
I'm already considering using the TMP symbols for the hull pennant and changing the bridge dome to the Phase 2 one anyways.
You know I had it right the first time then I looked at a shiplist someone posted with the feddies on it and then changed it....
Got burned.
Those are good ideas too. Was it an oversight on Franz's part that his design for the DN did not have the bridge turbolift shafts? A ship that big, as well as the carrier here, need at least two shafts.
If you give it the TMP pennants and fonts, it would fit more into my theory that the TOS-style was an entire design philosphophy that existed right alongside the TMP design philosophy, and that the two styles were not just "old" vs "new".
Also, another thing I've been thinking of re the TOS-style deflector dishes, is that in the middle you have a ring of "blue glowie" similar to the way they did it with the def dish on the Galaxy. It would indicate an advanced design and yet still retain that TOS flavor. What do ya think?
Atra, on the Federation class Dreadnought, the bridge is embedded in the middle of the saucer, where it can't be easily hit. The structure on the top is another navigation dome similar to the one on the bottom of the CA's saucer. Hence no turbolift shaft.
Hey Anduril, you gonna make fighters to go with this? I'd really love to see F-14's and A-20's!
Ooh, you could do a SCS (since this is the Julius Caesar) and make a version with F-111's on mechlinks!
Post by: Rogue on November 15, 2003, 05:23:05 pm
And needless to say, that is shaping up to be a fabulous looking CVA.
Post by: TheStressPuppy on November 15, 2003, 06:12:29 pm
Still we put em on to retain the "classic" look of the TOS era ships 
Post by: Desty_Nova on November 15, 2003, 06:29:45 pm
Post by: Rogue on November 15, 2003, 07:01:25 pm
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I belive those are early sensor arrays not windows. I know thier placement doesnt make any sense. then again lots of things on TOS ships didnt make sense
Yet more sensors? Well, I suppose you have to have a broad spectrum of sensor devices to have as many senses as you can in deep space. I guess it's like sight, hearing, smell, touch... etc. Hmmm... Do starships smell? If so what do they smell like? Can you purchase the scent to get that new starship smell?
Gosh, I'm sorry. This will be the last OT comment on my part. We now return you to a master at work...
Post by: Atrahasis on November 15, 2003, 08:04:35 pm
Post by: anduril on November 15, 2003, 09:11:19 pm
Post by: Atrahasis on November 16, 2003, 11:22:52 am
Post by: anduril on November 16, 2003, 02:06:31 pm
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 16, 2003, 02:27:19 pm
Caesar approves. I feel sorry for the Gauls now...
Post by: Desty_Nova on November 16, 2003, 06:54:28 pm
Looking great Anduril! I'm really looking forward to getting this one!
Post by: E_Look on November 16, 2003, 11:37:54 pm
Post by: Atrahasis on November 17, 2003, 08:45:20 am
You da man. Post by: Kaenyne on November 17, 2003, 08:50:39 am
She'll be a great addition to either my TOS OR TMP fleet!
I'm looking forward to this beauty!
Post by: Bernard Guignard on November 18, 2003, 06:20:05 am
Post by: Pataflafla on November 18, 2003, 08:10:02 am
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Post by: Anthony_Scott on November 18, 2003, 10:28:02 am
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WOW!!!! That's beautiful!!!!!!
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Semper Fi, Carry On
Post by: Fire Blade on November 18, 2003, 12:16:36 pm
Post by: Rogue on November 18, 2003, 01:23:24 pm
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WOW!!!! That's beautiful!!!!!!
Yes it is, isn't it. Anyone expect less? Anduril always made good ships but start looking at his more recent texture maps. As good as anyones, IMHO.
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 19, 2003, 03:05:16 pm
Post by: Parislord on November 19, 2003, 10:59:33 pm
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I say they could be reaction control thrusters. Yes, I know they don't in any way fire off to the sides to be proper reaction control thrusters, but it could be that the vectors are manipulated with force fields. Ever wonder how a ship like the Enterprise (any of the Enterprises) applies reverse-thrust with its impulse engines, when the only impulse engines it has are at the back and none at the front? The only......ONLY......way to be able to do this is if the impulse exhaust is re-vectored at some point outside of the ship so that it traces the path of a square bracket " [ " using force fields. If impulse exhaust can be re-vectored like that, I don't see why reaction control thrusters can't.
This is called a "thrust-reverser" in aircraft engines. Basically, it's a pair of clamshell-like bits that close aft of the nozzel, directing the thrust forward. Good call, Atra! A hard sci-fi answer to treknobable.
Your reaction control thrusters could also be imagined to be electronically-scanned like a phased-array radar antenna.
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 19, 2003, 11:57:26 pm
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I say they could be reaction control thrusters. Yes, I know they don't in any way fire off to the sides to be proper reaction control thrusters, but it could be that the vectors are manipulated with force fields. Ever wonder how a ship like the Enterprise (any of the Enterprises) applies reverse-thrust with its impulse engines, when the only impulse engines it has are at the back and none at the front? The only......ONLY......way to be able to do this is if the impulse exhaust is re-vectored at some point outside of the ship so that it traces the path of a square bracket " [ " using force fields. If impulse exhaust can be re-vectored like that, I don't see why reaction control thrusters can't.
This is called a "thrust-reverser" in aircraft engines. Basically, it's a pair of clamshell-like bits that close aft of the nozzel, directing the thrust forward. Good call, Atra! A hard sci-fi answer to treknobable.
Your reaction control thrusters could also be imagined to be electronically-scanned like a phased-array radar antenna.
The impulse engine "exhausts" become "intakes" during reverse operation, the entire unit tractoring or sucking the ship backwards.
Post by: Atrahasis on November 20, 2003, 12:08:22 am
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I say they could be reaction control thrusters. Yes, I know they don't in any way fire off to the sides to be proper reaction control thrusters, but it could be that the vectors are manipulated with force fields. Ever wonder how a ship like the Enterprise (any of the Enterprises) applies reverse-thrust with its impulse engines, when the only impulse engines it has are at the back and none at the front? The only......ONLY......way to be able to do this is if the impulse exhaust is re-vectored at some point outside of the ship so that it traces the path of a square bracket " [ " using force fields. If impulse exhaust can be re-vectored like that, I don't see why reaction control thrusters can't.
This is called a "thrust-reverser" in aircraft engines. Basically, it's a pair of clamshell-like bits that close aft of the nozzel, directing the thrust forward. Good call, Atra! A hard sci-fi answer to treknobable.
Your reaction control thrusters could also be imagined to be electronically-scanned like a phased-array radar antenna.
The impulse engine "exhausts" become "intakes" during reverse operation, the entire unit tractoring or sucking the ship backwards.
I'm sorry, but would that work well in space where there is very little to be sucked in?
Hmmmm might be possible though, I hadn't considered that.
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 20, 2003, 12:52:45 am
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I say they could be reaction control thrusters. Yes, I know they don't in any way fire off to the sides to be proper reaction control thrusters, but it could be that the vectors are manipulated with force fields. Ever wonder how a ship like the Enterprise (any of the Enterprises) applies reverse-thrust with its impulse engines, when the only impulse engines it has are at the back and none at the front? The only......ONLY......way to be able to do this is if the impulse exhaust is re-vectored at some point outside of the ship so that it traces the path of a square bracket " [ " using force fields. If impulse exhaust can be re-vectored like that, I don't see why reaction control thrusters can't.
This is called a "thrust-reverser" in aircraft engines. Basically, it's a pair of clamshell-like bits that close aft of the nozzel, directing the thrust forward. Good call, Atra! A hard sci-fi answer to treknobable.
Your reaction control thrusters could also be imagined to be electronically-scanned like a phased-array radar antenna.
The impulse engine "exhausts" become "intakes" during reverse operation, the entire unit tractoring or sucking the ship backwards.
I'm sorry, but would that work well in space where there is very little to be sucked in?
Hmmmm might be possible though, I hadn't considered that.
Ah yes I thought you might ask that..
The Schtupp Suck Theory of Reverse Impulse Propulsion (or SUCKRIP):
The impulse coils act as attractor plates for interstellar hydrogen (and in later impulse technology subspace anti-neutrons) sucked in at near lightspeed, where Newtonian two-body physics explain the relative movement between the ship and the hydrogen nuclei. Impulse engines glow blue during reverse operation.
Heck- SUCKRIP works so good, they shoulda' put the engines in front...
Post by: Atrahasis on November 20, 2003, 03:44:37 am
One thing wrong with that though........if partciels are attracted INTO the impulse engines form the back, they'd be tranferring their momentum forwards, which would actually give the ship forward thrust and not reverse thrust. For reverse thrust to happen you have to have thrust exhaust going to the front of the ship.
But that is a novel idea.....
Actually, I don't see why our two ideas couldn't be COMBINED........that the impulse engines can suck as well as spew with re-directed exhaust, but just not at the same time.
Sorry for hijacking your thread, A.
Post by: Bernard Guignard on November 23, 2003, 05:55:53 am
Nice to see you get back in the swing of things looking forward to the release of both types carriers. This is too good
to be on page 2.
Post by: Bernard Guignard on November 28, 2003, 05:03:43 am
Post by: anduril on November 28, 2003, 08:09:03 am
Drive needed a reload anyways since the box has been slowing down but one day I'll run into one of the little pieces of trash who spend their lives in mommies basement doing things like that.
So, not much new to report other than some basic detail going on.
No problemo on the Hijack A. I'm more frustrated at the fact I spent 8 years living in a world of Acronyms, considered myself one of the kings of them and I can't come up with one even remotely humorous to add to this discussion....
Post by: Rogue on November 28, 2003, 08:38:19 am
First, that looks marvelous. You have a few fans here, of whom, I am one. Undoubtably it will be the new reference model for this class.
Secondly, that hompepage hijack thingy... fixed that for a friend of mine that I had given my old computer. It was accomplished with a little script that instals itself in the windows folder and executes upon every boot. I changed the name of the extension to test it and all was well again. That little script was deleted immediately after. If it crops up again look for a visual basic file under C: or Windows and you may have found the offending script.
Post by: Lord Schtupp on November 28, 2003, 10:51:53 am
Hull textures are looking sweet Anduril
Post by: anduril on November 29, 2003, 08:07:51 am
Post by: Atrahasis on November 29, 2003, 10:05:35 am
Post by: anduril on November 29, 2003, 06:08:39 pm
I changed the above pic to take a look with some quickie Miranda doors.
Post by: Desty_Nova on November 30, 2003, 01:01:14 am
Post by: Fire Blade on November 30, 2003, 06:40:28 am
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 02, 2003, 05:01:08 pm
Post by: Atrahasis on December 02, 2003, 11:14:42 pm
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 02, 2003, 11:44:48 pm
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By the way A, the Impulse Engines are supposed to be back of that ledge that sticks up, back of the saucer......it has great potential to scorch the hull, imo, but hey that's they way it is.
Except during reverse operation, of course
Post by: Atrahasis on December 03, 2003, 02:59:55 am
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 03, 2003, 03:23:49 am
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 03, 2003, 03:29:48 am
Post by: Atrahasis on December 03, 2003, 03:40:56 am
Post by: anduril on December 03, 2003, 05:41:35 am
Progress is slow but not quite snails pace. But at least it's all mapped out except for the inevitable pushing, pulling, and repositioning of the mesh.
Had to throw on some of Lord Schtupp's most excellent phaser textures too.
I never did send my condolences for the the loss of your cousin. Lily was a unique and gifted woman and is missed by all.
Post by: Atrahasis on December 03, 2003, 07:40:10 am
Are you gonna stick that sesnor dish on it or come up with somethng a bit more advanced looking?
Post by: Rogue on December 03, 2003, 11:33:07 am
Edit: Hey! check it out. I'm a commander now. More like space cadet.
Post by: anduril on December 03, 2003, 11:50:38 am
Right now the standard dish is below. I've been playing with the textures a bit. Right now it has copper around the outside and a blue center that is textured similar to the TMP ships dishes. If I go with a hybrid I will probably remove the antenna. I have also considered one in the front of the saucer itself. It will probably be the last thing I do.
Post by: Atrahasis on December 03, 2003, 12:30:42 pm
I like that idea of the standard dish-on-a-stick, but make it more stylin', like giving it a TMP glow in the center.....
Post by: James_Smith on December 03, 2003, 01:02:44 pm
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Nooo anything but putting a dish at the front of the saucer!
I like that idea of the standard dish-on-a-stick, but make it more stylin', like giving it a TMP glow in the center.....
I agree with Atra, a dish on the front ptobably isn't the way to go. The WADE units like on Atra's Siva model might look good, but otherwise I'd go for the dish hanging down underneath the saucer on a mount.
Post by: Smiley on December 03, 2003, 01:46:50 pm
Wade units!
Please anything but dangling dishes!
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 03, 2003, 01:57:59 pm
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You mean Captain Kirk, of course?
LOL who else? All starship captains want to be like Kirk, or should want to.....
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 03, 2003, 01:59:44 pm
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Post by: DestinyCalling on December 03, 2003, 02:09:31 pm
If you go for the dish though, dont make it too big... It doesn't need to be any bigger than standard....
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 03, 2003, 02:50:23 pm
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 03, 2003, 02:54:13 pm
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I'm not really sure what it is supposed to be but I'm considering it an array. Maybe an AWAC's type to allow the CVA to seriously take charge of what is going on. That and the fact they wanted it painted copper suggests a system other than power.
If memory serves isnt there a crosshatch or grid pattern on this bit? If its a sensor array then maybe it should glow inside the grid lines... hmm doesnt seem right though - shrug....
Post by: Khalee on December 03, 2003, 03:20:03 pm
So im just kinda wondering if your going to show it.
And it looks good so far.
Post by: James_Smith on December 03, 2003, 03:31:34 pm
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Whutsa Wade unit?
Take a look at the leading edge of the saucer on Atra's Siva class model - those are WADE units.
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 03, 2003, 03:52:50 pm
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Whutsa Wade unit?
Take a look at the leading edge of the saucer on Atra's Siva class model - those are WADE units.
Ok did that, thanks. So is a wade unit a sensor, scannor, nav deflector, or all of the above?
Post by: Khalee on December 03, 2003, 04:03:50 pm
Post by: Desty_Nova on December 03, 2003, 05:24:22 pm
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You do know that the ship has a balcony and trac system correct?
So im just kinda wondering if your going to show it.
And it looks good so far.
Yes, I'm interested to see what you do with the fighter balconies as well.
Post by: anduril on December 03, 2003, 05:57:32 pm
If you are looking for real balconies you'll get moist when a certain unnamed source gets around to finishing up his CVA variant......
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 04, 2003, 02:16:28 am
I started a new job a little while back, six months into it and I'm already infamous lol. Myself and partner (decent chap, likes rush deep purple judas preist etc.) run the prepress dept at a printing company. Anyway we had been keeping a close tab on your carrier, so it was kinda neat to see that.
yay
Post by: anduril on December 04, 2003, 08:43:56 am
I've tried numerous designs on the dish, most came out a bit on the gaudy side. Here's where I'm at now. Ideas?
Post by: Sbloyd on December 04, 2003, 10:19:19 am
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 04, 2003, 12:50:13 pm
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Ideas?
Maybe a little more built up in the center like the phase 2 Ent as depicted in the "comic book" ads. Also a cool dish is the "dish gun" that the Rebels had on Hoth defending the trenches. The dish part was built up nicely on that.
Post by: Rogue on December 04, 2003, 05:11:21 pm
How about this for an off beat idea... Since some have a problem with the aestheticly challenged hanging dish, how about this for a varient... take the lower sensor dome and replace it with equal diameter tube with that same dome at the end. Then describe a forward facing parabolic, that is reduced in heigth, so that the tube would not need to be long to accomodate it. Walla, a deflector dish and a sensor dome in one without that odd looking lower dish. I would kind of like to see if it might be a visualy interesting alternative. Just an idea.
Post by: DestinyCalling on December 04, 2003, 05:55:54 pm
Post by: anduril on December 04, 2003, 07:46:40 pm
Post by: Atrahasis on December 05, 2003, 02:14:52 am
Either that, or add a glowing ring with a radius of 1/2 the dish, and add a small glowing center, like the Galaxy-class deflector.
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 05, 2003, 04:47:33 am
My idea for this problem is to build a conventional TOS dish with center antenna but do a small ring of glow at about 1/2 radius out, with many fine radiating lines inside this ring kinda like a turbine engine. Perhaps use an orange Phase2 type of glow instead of blue.
I agree with Atra regarding the spokes not looking quite right but if you used orange instaed of blu then i think that would look better.
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 05, 2003, 04:53:45 am
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Hey Lord Schtupp.. any progress to report on those WIP's on yonder page (Hermes and Antares)... They've been WIP's for a year now... Not like I'm bugging but just how much drool do you think I have!!!!
Work on all WIPS has been resumed, negotiations with striking shipyard workers for improved working conditions were successful.
Post by: Atrahasis on December 05, 2003, 06:03:39 am
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My idea for this problem is to build a conventional TOS dish with center antenna but do a small ring of glow at about 1/2 radius out, with many fine radiating lines inside this ring kinda like a turbine engine. Perhaps use an orange Phase2 type of glow instead of blue.
That's exactly what I was getting at, you read my mind!
Post by: anduril on December 05, 2003, 08:18:43 am
I'm just a simple beer drinking harley ridin man.
But I decided last night after that last post I didn't like the blue and was going back to a tos style so here's a quickie 20 minute unrefined job I just did. I may add some smaller cut outs between the lines already there.
Post by: Kaenyne on December 05, 2003, 08:38:45 am
Post by: Rogue on December 05, 2003, 11:56:49 am
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 05, 2003, 12:21:33 pm
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I'm just a simple beer drinking harley ridin man.
This has the makings of a great country-western song, if there is such a thing lol...
New dish looks better, I like the orange better too.
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 05, 2003, 01:49:09 pm
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That's exactly what I was getting at, you read my mind!
Ahh I see- I thought you meant no antenna; just basically a smaller tmp style sensor set into a TOS dish which is why i thought your idea would need a small pod behind it - my mistake
Post by: Desty_Nova on December 05, 2003, 08:39:07 pm
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You guys are killing me.
I'm just a simple beer drinking harley ridin man.
But I decided last night after that last post I didn't like the blue and was going back to a tos style so here's a quickie 20 minute unrefined job I just did. I may add some smaller cut outs between the lines already there.
Just do it classic style, Anduril! I like the cheesy hanging dishes the way they are!
Post by: Atrahasis on December 06, 2003, 09:03:03 am
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You guys are killing me.
I'm just a simple beer drinking harley ridin man.
But I decided last night after that last post I didn't like the blue and was going back to a tos style so here's a quickie 20 minute unrefined job I just did. I may add some smaller cut outs between the lines already there.
Dat's the ticket, laddie! But did the blue look bad or something?
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 06, 2003, 12:11:27 pm
Makes sense too, as orange is lower on the energy spectrum thus implying lower power/older tech.Isnt there a canon precedent for an orange dish or just where did that come from anyway???
Post by: anduril on December 09, 2003, 02:00:54 pm
Tos or tmp style?
Post by: Kaenyne on December 09, 2003, 02:05:18 pm
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 09, 2003, 02:33:44 pm
Post by: Rhaz on December 09, 2003, 02:34:52 pm
Post by: Rogue NineCH on December 09, 2003, 07:15:08 pm
Post by: Rod O'neal on December 09, 2003, 11:03:26 pm
I'm TOS all the way, but we do have an acute shortage of SFB based TMP CVAs (also BCVs). Should you decide to do a TMP refit, this is a class that is needed, IMO.
Post by: anduril on December 10, 2003, 02:15:40 am
I've already toned down that orange to a browner color like the phase 2 connie.
Post by: Rod O'neal on December 10, 2003, 04:03:12 am
Post by: Bernard Guignard on December 11, 2003, 04:25:53 am
Post by: Bernard Guignard on December 12, 2003, 04:23:52 pm
Post by: anduril on December 13, 2003, 08:31:08 am
I did some detail work on the fighter pads and other places but not enough to warrant another image so I'll post this. I think I have the ship scaled to around 450 meters in this shot. I wanted the saucer to be 4 decks and I think the rest scaled nicely. The warps are a bit bigger than the CA's which is how they should be. IMO at least.
Post by: DestinyCalling on December 13, 2003, 09:18:08 am
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 13, 2003, 09:56:19 am
Post by: anduril on December 13, 2003, 10:16:13 am
As always these opinions are my own and are usually slightly wacked.
Post by: Bernard Guignard on December 14, 2003, 05:43:00 am
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Last three days have consisted of work 8-5, come home eat, get paged at around 6:30, go out and work till around 9:30, come home, go to sleep and get paged around midnight, go work till about 2:30, come home sleep till 6:30 and repeat. One long sentence since that's what this week was in essence.
I did some detail work on the fighter pads and other places but not enough to warrant another image so I'll post this. I think I have the ship scaled to around 450 meters in this shot. I wanted the saucer to be 4 decks and I think the rest scaled nicely. The warps are a bit bigger than the CA's which is how they should be. IMO at least.
Hi Anduril
Very nice work scaling the ship its looks like its almost ready to leave space dock.
Post by: Desty_Nova on December 14, 2003, 05:49:35 am
Anyway, grade-A work so far. I love how the model is coming along and I agree with your thoughts about the various technicalities of the design. It's so great to see so many SFB designs coming to life lately.
Post by: Rogue on December 14, 2003, 10:33:14 am
Post by: DestinyCalling on December 15, 2003, 03:09:02 pm
We cant let this one slide
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 15, 2003, 03:19:53 pm
Oh by the way Im ripping off Andurils saucer stripes - thank you very much
Post by: DestinyCalling on December 15, 2003, 04:30:53 pm
oh, and have you thouch of producing alternate registries for you connie.. I'd do them myself, but you wouldn't believe how hard it is to find the right font...
ta
Post by: Bernard Guignard on December 22, 2003, 11:34:53 am
Post by: DestinyCalling on December 24, 2003, 02:59:41 pm
Post by: anduril on December 24, 2003, 04:39:41 pm
U.S.S. Julius Caesar
Post by: Azel on December 24, 2003, 05:11:00 pm
And a happy Atolm-mas to you too
Post by: Rod O'neal on December 24, 2003, 05:57:46 pm
Post by: Bernard Guignard on December 25, 2003, 09:34:52 am
What a great Present! Thanks so very much
Post by: anduril on December 26, 2003, 11:44:01 am
When I get done with the SCS version of this ship and the Rom V4 I plan on pulling out the DN to update its saucer texture to go with this and the Connie that I've reworked a bit more over the past few months. It will have the new warps, some chages to the bridge dome/bc decks, properly configured rings behind the deflector and a couple other things that my fever/flu befuddled brain can't recall at the moment but I did make note of them in the readme. All that at 100 some faces less. I had made the alternate registries avail for an earlier version of the Connie so I still have them in the PSD file. When V2.5 of the Connie comes out I'll redo the zips of the three sheets that need to be swapped out for the individual ships.
As to a BC variant off of the DN that's no a bad idea as a BC doesn't need to be a mutated CA. Kitbash away and show us the results. It might just alleviate my need to make one.
I'm going to try and come up with a believeable design for a variant of the DN with a weapons suite on the bottom of the sec hull so the DN variants are covered. In my shipyard at least. I'll probably have to ask the master engineer Lord Schtupp for some advice on that first.
If I rambled I'll apologize now. Delirium doesn't rock.
Post by: anduril on December 26, 2003, 11:49:13 am
So belay my last.
Post by: DestinyCalling on December 26, 2003, 11:52:11 am
Oh, if I didn't say so before... Great work my friend....
Post by: Lord Schtupp on December 26, 2003, 01:02:55 pm
Post by: Rogue on February 20, 2004, 05:43:30 pm
The subject came up recently and I thought this deserves to be bumped for anyone who may have missed this. Like me... and I was trying to keep tabs on it, too.
Post by: Klingon Fanatic on February 21, 2004, 11:45:37 am
[Star Wars: Episode IV; scene where Luke Skywalker is asking his Uncle Owen about Ben Kenobi...]
Luke: "You know that V-4 unit that's missing in action, I think it was owned by Anduril. You don't think he meant the Anduril who has the Galactic Fringe website and who frequents the Taldren Forums displaying his model making prowess do you?"
Uncle Owen, "You stay away from that crazy old wizard. Anduril disappeared a long time ago, about the same time as Terradyne, Atrahasis and P81."
Luke: "Anduril knew Atrahasis, Terradyne and P81?"
Uncle Owen: "I said drop it Luke!"
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Please Anduril release the FASA Romulan V-4.
KF
Post by: ModelsPlease on February 22, 2004, 12:21:00 am
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SENSE OF HUMOR ALERT:
[Star Wars: Episode IV; scene where Luke Skywalker is asking his Uncle Owen about Ben Kenobi...]
Luke: "You know that V-4 unit that's missing in action, I think it was owned by Anduril. You don't think he meant the Anduril who has the Galactic Fringe website and who frequents the Taldren Forums displaying his model making prowess do you?"
Uncle Owen, "You stay away from that crazy old wizard. Anduril disappeared a long time ago, about the same time as Terradyne, Atrahasis and P81."
Luke: "Anduril knew Atrahasis, Terradyne and P81?"
Uncle Owen: "I said drop it Luke!"
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Please Anduril release the FASA Romulan V-4.
KF
Now that's comedy!
Please release the ship Anduril sir.
Post by: Khalee on June 12, 2004, 02:47:51 am
Post by: Khalee on June 12, 2004, 03:26:02 pm
Post by: Fallen_Warrior on June 12, 2004, 03:29:16 pm
Post by: ModelsPlease on June 12, 2004, 06:48:17 pm
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Some one has got to have this ship PLEASE send it my way if you do. You know If I had a ship you were looking for Id send it no problem. <Im on my knees Begging> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.
Andurils version was never released. However Red_Green aka James Formo did 2 outstanding versions of this ship and you can find them at SFU.
V4 TOS version
V4 TMP version
Enjoy
-MP
Post by: Khalee on June 12, 2004, 07:42:41 pm
Post by: Bernard Guignard on June 13, 2004, 07:06:08 am
Check your email I just sent it to you.
Post by: Khalee on June 13, 2004, 02:39:32 pm
Post by: ModelsPlease on June 14, 2004, 03:38:30 am
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Yes I got it thanks fellas
Hey Khalee sir,please send it my way please. I'm sure by now you have my addy
Thanks
-MP