Dam that looks great. Highly interesting, especially the nacelles.
Thanks all, I cant take the credit/blame for the warp nacelle design, there are several drawings on shipschematics.net that feature this warp. Funny but I didn't like this warp either until I actually started to mesh it, It grows on you. Its a good TOS-TMP transitition design. This is the plan I worked from and as you can see I added a few of my own details to help get her closer to the TMP era:
wow
But seriuosly, IMHO this ship is great. Its a great FCX for between TOS and TMP. Even though i dont like X-ships
LS - check your PMs
But sir, if the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep his PC on the QT, 'cause if it leaks to the VC he could end up an MIA and then we'd all be put on the KP ASAP.
Mariner, where'd you get that TMP era emblem from? could you send me the files perchance?
Oh and what's with the font? Do you not have the Starfleet bold extended font? I can send it to you if you don't have it.
You can see it is very different from the study model everyone regards as the Phase II Enterprise - that famous pic of the yellow model with the deflector and torpedo launchers missing
Cool, could you send me the files (include the Korloev modification too if you can) I like to see how other people do modifications like this, most of my texture alteration work is fairly basic and it's nice to get some additional skills now and then.
I never noticed the Phase II had not outline on the regs, I don't like to use that font though as it's too similar to Microgramma which is the DS9/Voyager era font for a lot of ships.
I've already actually started modifying the textures on this one, done regs for a USS Sicilia and plan to add some weathering to the rather pristine looking secondary hull and nacelles, and possibly even swap the bridge out for the phase II style one on WZ's Ptolemy, maybe.
You can see it is very different from the study model everyone regards as the Phase II Enterprise - that famous pic of the yellow model with the deflector and torpedo launchers missing
Yep, that's the one... and it's the only one pictured in my book on the Phase 2 series... which is why I'm wondering what the heck the deal is... one would think that, if the Reese-Stevenses are hooked up enough to become "Enterprise" story editors, why wouldn't they have been able to find these pics? ;)
(apologies to LS for participating in this thread hijack, BTW :D )
judging by the info on that page it seems these only came into the public domain recently, maybe they were lying forgotten in some basement with the unsold copies of Bill Shatner's album. ;D
judging by the info on that page it seems these only came into the public domain recently, maybe they were lying forgotten in some basement with the unsold copies of Bill Shatner's album. ;D
Here's a wet dream: the Monitor design with TSP Connie parts...ohh yeah. :)
So, Schtupp, are you transitioning towards the TMP era now?
I've already actually started modifying the textures on this one, done regs for a USS Sicilia and plan to add some weathering to the rather pristine looking secondary hull and nacelles, and possibly even swap the bridge out for the phase II style one on WZ's Ptolemy, maybe.
That Aurora is looking slick. Have you considered re-redoing your Connie in light of the new(er) version seen on ENT with the aft weapons?
Hey Schtupp, would you mind a (small, large, depends on your view of things) critique about the Aurora?
I assume the hull is slightly modifed from the plans, as well as the B/C deck, so account for their slightly inaccurate shapes? I rmember you giving a long dictation on "Conny Blueprint Quality" back when TSP made his.
Hey Schtupp, would you mind a (small, large, depends on your view of things) critique about the Aurora?
Hey Schtupp, would you mind a (small, large, depends on your view of things) critique about the Aurora?
I doubt you've convered things as nitpickily as I have, but why not?
BTW, if it's about the bussards on the second pic, ignore them. The most recent WIP is the one with IaMD style bussards, which I suggested. :)
No dammit I havnt seen it (i dont get UPN), but I sure would like to see some good screencaps of that. I have been working on my Connie V2.0, all new mesh based on the casimiro plans seen here mapped to the hull. The warp engines here are the old ones but they will be all new as well. I'll try to do a full set of regs + blanks as i usually do. I havnt forgot about the Hornet ;D
Wow that compliment is better than the model itself lol Thanks buzzard :thumbsup: (reminds me I need to update my website. the only dl links available are at the beginning of this thread. Doh!)I hope you know your holding up my mod because of your nitpickyness. Geter done allready. :P
Ive been messing around whith this light cruiser design for a few months now, but Ive been so nitpicky that its difficult to get it finshed, esp with reallife issue and whatnot:
([url]http://www.dallypress.com/schtupp/forums/bussard1.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.dallypress.com/schtupp/forums/aurora5.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.dallypress.com/schtupp/forums/fncl4.jpg[/url])
Hey Schtupp, would you mind a (small, large, depends on your view of things) critique about the Aurora?
No not at all. Whats on your mind?
You know, E, maybe it's just the chair that got smashed into my head talking, but now that you mention it, it does vaguely look like the Sovereign. Vaguely, mind you; might not look that way when my brain's no longer concussed.
Oh, and Schtupp, one question: what's the difference between Connie 1.0 and 2.0, for those of us who don't have comparison pics handy? And would somebody hook this man up with some HDTV screencaps of the ship from ENT?
P.S. the new Connie looks very sweet, are those details your textures of just the Casimiro plans layed over the mesh? Speaking of the plans, I've not had a chance to compare them with photos of the studio model, do you have any pics of the areas you think he got wrong?
I never compared the Aurora to a Sovereign-class, but I do see a trait or two. The only traits worth noticing being the torpedo launchers near the center of the ventral area of the saucer, actually a Constitution-class trait, but more Sovvie-like due to visibility. Also, no "neck" area and a secondary hull thinner as you near the end of it. But still, it's no Sovereign-class. If anything, the Sovereign should be compared to the Aurora due to the Sovvie's retroized design, as it looks out of place in TNG-era Starfleet design lineage. But I digress...
Here's ([url]http://benni.info/albums/S04E19/S04E19_011.jpg[/url]) a pic from that same website Schtupp dug up a couple of pictures from. It clearly shows the "ball points" of where they are located, reminicient of the aft phasers from the Constitution-class refit. So far, you're doing a nice job with re-doing your Constitution-class. The engines in that WIP pic, look weathered and somewhat more-detailed I think, a plus in my book if that's what you intended. Otherwise, it could just be my eyes need a checkup again.
As I've seen the Aurora WIP pics before, you know how much I like the Aurora. :)
I never compared the Aurora to a Sovereign-class, but I do see a trait or two. The only traits worth noticing being the torpedo launchers near the center of the ventral area of the saucer, actually a Constitution-class trait, but more Sovvie-like due to visibility. Also, no "neck" area and a secondary hull thinner as you near the end of it. But still, it's no Sovereign-class. If anything, the Sovereign should be compared to the Aurora due to the Sovvie's retroized design, as it looks out of place in TNG-era Starfleet design lineage. But I digress...
Re: the Aurora, I think the reason some people get the impression of a Sovereign class, is the very smooth transition between the B/C deck superstructure and the engineering hull, the hull smoothly covers the back of the saucer and joins into the back of the bridge module, obviously the Sovereign doesn't have a module as it's such a big ship but the same shape is evident on that ship, the engineering hull continues fairly smoothly into the saucer (at least it does so completely on the fugly Nemesis version - CGI suxxorz the big one1111!!!) Fortunately for your ship all the other views aside from the top show the very different proportions of the 2 hulls. I like the hull the way it is myself.
First off, I really like the way it looks... and that's kind of the problem! It doesn't quite smell TOS; it has more the aroma of TNG. Allow me to clarify- my first impression was that it reminded quite a lot of the post-TNG Sovereign (Ent-E). Now, I'd d/l it and play it as is just because it's pretty to look at. But I'd also be thinking of finding a Borg cube to kick the crap out of in a TOS mod... I guess I'd never finish any missions!
The General Lee? Now that'd be interesting to see on a starship.
Urgh what an ugly vehicle!
The General Lee? Now that'd be interesting to see on a starship.
Actually the General Lee was a '69 I believe (I'd have to look at the tail lights ) not a '66
The 66 was pretty cool .. but the '69 Charger and the Charger Daytona were my Fav.
Hmm funny but I never even thought about the Sovy. Youre all gonna laugh but Originanally i wanted to build a simple SFB type of NCL. Well one thing led to another etc etc and 16 max files later this is about where she stands. If you look closely you can see that the sensor/deflector pod is removable, also note the two blue pods (stand in objects only). The purpose of this degree of modularity is for quick conversion for mission-specific pods: scout, ECM/ECCM, hvy weapons, carrier and so on, just as is described in the old old old SFB Expansion #2 for the general war. So its Late TOS. As for the simualrity to the Sovy it purly coincidental. This is what the hull is really based on:([url]http://charger.faithweb.com/images/1966_dodge_charger_r-t.jpg[/url])
'66 Dodge Charger R/T
Note the roofline.... ;D
They definitely traded up, Rod. ;)
Those that haunt the H&S boards have already been introduced to the "Bee".
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/superbee/superbee.jpg[/url])
Fed's 1971 Dodge Charger Super Bee w/383 Magnum
Fabulous car, Fedman!!! 1971, the last year for real musclecars. :'( ...and yeah, the Charger could trash the Goat, no problem. GTO's are still really cool, though.
The General Lee? Now that'd be interesting to see on a starship
QuoteThe General Lee? Now that'd be interesting to see on a starship
I did the General Lee as a shuttle last year ;)................
([url]http://www.freewebs.com/manitobashipyards/General%20Lee.JPG[/url])
-MP
QuoteThe General Lee? Now that'd be interesting to see on a starship
I did the General Lee as a shuttle last year ;)................
([url]http://www.freewebs.com/manitobashipyards/General%20Lee.JPG[/url])
-MP
Damn Mackie, nice Charger!
I WANT MY CUDA BACK WHAAAA!!!! :'(
But...but...
I bought a 2000 Mustang last month, doesn't that count for something?
Edit: Wait, wasn't this thread about something else?
Besides now weve seen 2 models inspired by dodge chargers; my Aurora and the General Lee shuttle. Idea: Im gonna do a registry USS Charger NCC-1971. Perfect.quite so, quite so. 8)
That shuttle has just given me an ispiration. Are there any ships to go with that shuttle, is is that the only Confederate ship out there?
At the moment, I thnk so. But I have two sitting on my HD that need to get uploaded this weekend. The Bubba and Cletus Class ships.. both are flying Confederate colors..
Schtupp, a couple questions on the Aurora. First, what's the inspiration for the blue/red striping on one of them? Second, were you aware that there already was a cruiser called Aurora on TOS?
In that chapter, he questions why Gene Roddenberry picked mostly American-derived names for the 12 Connies, and then wonders why he chose to name one Potemkin instead of Aurora.
In that chapter, he questions why Gene Roddenberry picked mostly American-derived names for the 12 Connies, and then wonders why he chose to name one Potemkin instead of Aurora.
"Billions and billions of contradictions!"
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cc:Bob Justman
TO: Gene Roddenberry DATE: AUGUST 9, 1967
FROM: Bob Justman SUBJECT: STAR FLEET STARSHIPS
Dear Gene:
I am in receipt of a memo from someone using the pseudonym of D. C. Fontana. This character suggests that we establish the names of the 12 ships of the Enterprise Starship Class.
Of the names that D. C. Fontana mentions, I prefer the following:
Enterprise
Essex
Excalibur
Lexington
Yorktown
Endeavor
Eagle
Constellation
Hornet
Wasp
Lafayette
I think there would be several other candidates, such as Saratoga and perhaps another English Carrier, a French Carrier, a Russian Carrier and certainly a Japanese Carrier. In addition, I think a name ought to be made up that would be of Vulcan origin.
Bob.
Earlier this week I started back on my Aurora NCL project, as can be seen I made some changes to the basic mesh, made a much nicer photon bay, and have progressed on the textures somewhat. The big red stripe is a little experiment, Ill use something like that for one of the advanced versions. the small purple pods are placeholders for mission specific pods or weapons, i.e. ecm, sensors for scout variant, torps for heavy weapons variant, and so on, in keeping with the modularity of the SFB NCL.
Something like the Baton Rouge or The Starfleet Museum's ([url]http://www.starfleet-museum.org/[/url]) Asia-class ([url]http://www.starfleet-museum.org/asia.htm[/url]) looks more plausable to being such a candidate.
Also, keep in mind the stock SFC or KA models having three-digit registry numbers. For example, ships like the Akula-class and Okinawa-class (Respectively the F-DD and F-FF stock models in KA and SFC 1/2/OP) have low registry numbers. The Akula's registry was NCC-278-A. Yeah, it has a -A so it can't count. The Okinawa's registry number was NCC-150, the same as the U.S.S. Daedelus's registry number in canon Trek. It implies that two TMP-era starships belong in the Pre-TOS-era, if we take registry numbers seriously in a cronological way. I don't know if it's the same or different in the SFB universe.
I'm not sure what you exactly envision as a predescessor to the Constitution-class, and I can't be for sure what I exactly envision in that subject either. Although that's the beauty of Trek and science fiction in general: utilizing imagination, to create a universe in your head and explore it...
The only thing I'd change is moving the torp launchers to the top of the saucer ala SFB/TOS.
Something like the Baton Rouge or The Starfleet Museum's ([url]http://www.starfleet-museum.org/[/url]) Asia-class ([url]http://www.starfleet-museum.org/asia.htm[/url]) looks more plausable to being such a candidate.
Oddly enough, the Akula TOS model in "Generations at War" has the reg number of 578 to put it in line with Franz Joseph's ships, but the TMP model has 278-A (ALEC! ;)0. The 1300-series has been used for the previously mentioned Baton Rouge-class, which made me recall that idea for this vessel.
Perhaps in SFB it's 2000+ registries that get Dreadnought or Heavy Carrier or Battleship status, anything between 2000 and 1000 cruisers, and Destroyers and Frigates get anything below in three-digit numbers? *shrug* I don't know anything about SFB, or not much about it, so I'm guessing.