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SFC OP => Orion Pirates Patrol Battles Arena => Topic started by: GDA-Kel on March 08, 2005, 09:13:55 am
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Fellow League Members,
Upon completion of the current PBR season, I will resign my position as League Commissioner and will not participate in further PBR activities. In fact, I am retiring from all things SFC for good. This is part of a message I posted in the Gorn forums…
After much consideration, I have decided to hang up the uniform of the GDA for good. I have been around this community since spring of 2001. I have been a tabletop gamer most of my adult life and this was my first foray into online gaming. I must say, it has been a blast. Better than I had ever hoped.
As most of you are probably aware, with limited ‘gaming time’ it is difficult to invest enough time in more than one game to make them both worthwhile. Recently, I have not been as available for PBR matches as I would like to be, and I hardly flew on SG04 while being an ARM. It has always been my belief, that while this is still a game, it is played within a community, so it requires a level of commitment on my part to make the experience a good one for me and my fellow flyers. The fact is, I have found another game that I enjoy more at this point – World of Warcraft, and I can no longer give the necessary attention to this game and community that you deserve.
I had hoped to make GW 5 my final hurrah, but the timing simply isn’t right. I will continue to fly PBR through the playoffs for the GDA. Once the season has ended, I will resign my commission in the Gorn navy.
If the source code is ever released for OP, I may come out of retirement. This game has a lot of potential if we just had the wherewithal to get under the hood and make some changes.
You, the PBR community, must decide if you will move forward with another season of competition. If so, you must elect a new commissioner with moderator privileges in this forum. The ISC fleet has already stated more than once that they do not intend to go forward. That will put you at 7 fleets. I suspect a few other fleets are having a hard time getting enough pilots for matches. After a time, it becomes more of a chore to schedule a match…and that just sucks the fun right out of it. Each fleet will have to re-evaluate their commitment to PBR and whether they will continue or not.
The fact is, I would not expect many more D2 pilots to try out PBR. Those that were interested are already here. Josh, from CUGS, has spoken to me repeatedly about combining this league with something they would like to start up within their community. I have politely declined his offer in the past, but with a new commissioner and losing at least one fleet, perhaps now is the time to reach out and see what exactly he has to offer.
In closing, it has been an honor to be associated with such a fine group of gamers as this one. Good Luck to all of you in your future gaming experiences.
I will begin a separate thread on my recommendations for next season.
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You did an admirable job man.
I have been impressed with your ability to stay above the fray.
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Wow, there's goes another heavy-weight SFC community leader. :O
The exodus from SFCOP of admin/scripter types from the game is gaining in momentum over the last 8 months, I see. This is truly a time of changing the guard for the community. A lot of qualified people are going to have to step into the admin and scripter roles if SFCOP is going continue much longer, IMHO.
KEL, if you substituted "Star War Galaxies" for "World of Warcraft" in the your quoted post above you would be echoing my sentiments word-for-word and you do a great job of it. *ISC Frog salutes the Gorn* :D
Best of luck in your future WoW gaming endeavours. Don't forget SWG if WoW wears you out. ;)
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Good luck with everything, you will always be welcomed back. :thumbsup:
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Sorry to see you go Kel, like DH said in the above post you will always be welcomed back.
Thanks for your contributions.
Bach
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Thank you Kel.
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I WILL TAKE OVER!!!!
Muahahahahaha
Hell why not, I know all the rules and cant play so I'll take the JOB!!
Jakle to my ready room!
Division Season 6 from one of the guys that brought you Division play to begin with!!!!
New exciting rules, hard nosed action! Spill Thrills Chills!!!
Slider
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I WILL TAKE OVER!!!!
Muahahahahaha
Hell why not, I know all the rules and cant play so I'll take the JOB!!
Jakle to my ready room!
Division Season 6 from one of the guys that brought you Division play to begin with!!!!
New exciting rules, hard nosed action! Spill Thrills Chills!!!
Slider
:screwloose:
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Thank you for your time and effort Kel. You really did a great job and this League will miss that.
Now as for Slider taking over, I'm cool with that. It's good to "shake up the kittens in the box', from time to time.
Wraith 413
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I do beleive its very early for farewell as we r just in the middle of the cycle but Kel really did a great Job till now. :thumbsup:
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Thats a shame Kel, I was hearing good things about what you where doing, but on the other side of things Josh over at CUGS has alot more to offer then just a forum set up and he has a great crew that contributes alot to the SFC community.
I sure with the proper replacement here the PBR will continue as well as it has in the past. JUST DONT GIVE THE POWER TO ANY OF THE OLD GZ GUYS if you do failure of the PBR will be in the future.
If I was you guys I would reconsider CUGS offer.
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Um, what is there offer? I didn't notice.
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Um, what is there offer? I didn't notice.
In the past, Josh has offered free forums and web space for a custom site (I assume) with the vague notion that CUGS and our league would merge into something greater than the sum of the two parts. I say 'vague' not in a bad way. We simply never sat down and discussed details.
With Summer coming on and activity here noticably declining, I strongly suggest my successor at least have a talk with Josh and/or other CUGS leadership and see what they can bring to the table. This is of course if you (as a group) decide to move forward with another season of PBR.
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GUGS is working on a gamepy style game matching service.
I am going to put together an SFC direct tcp/ip game matching page using the EAW, OP and SFC3 command line parameters to launch games directly from the webpage... no ads... no gamespy login...
I intend to share this work with CUGS and whoever else is intersted.
This will not happen overnight but I do intend to do it over the next year.
I think our leagues can develop in parallel and share technology... It should work out nicely. If there is an amalgamation it should be the natural evolution of it and not be forced...
My 2¢ ...
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Um, what is there offer? I didn't notice.
With Summer coming on and activity here noticably declining, I strongly suggest my successor at least have a talk with Josh and/or other CUGS leadership and see what they can bring to the table. This is of course if you (as a group) decide to move forward with another season of PBR.
It might be wise to suspend operations for the summer - period. Cycle II was painful last summer, although we managed to finish it. Come September, we had all kinds of peeps coming out of the woodwork saying they wanted to play again.
Of course Cycle III then fizzled....
Summer has always been the dead season for SFC - you could feel it even back in the MPlague days - except then, dead meant 150 people online instead of 300.
Come next Autumn, see whether there is enough organic support for continued PBR Divisional play, or whether it should be hung up or sold to CUGS (I cringe at the notion, but that's just me - you all do what feels right)
This forum could still serve as an informal rallying site during the summer months to initiate some fun games or whatever.
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Why dont we do something different for the summer.
We can set up some 2 v 2 fleet actions with rung challenges just to get us through. Each Team can field multiple teams but members of one "Battle Wing" cannot just move from one group to the other.
This can be race centric or not depending on interest.
Since its smaller teams more people who are around can get in on the action and being rung based, activity is strickly up to the players.
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How about some sort of "King of the Hill" tournament, where a champion is declared before the matches and anyone who wants to sign up for a weekly schedule can try to knock him (or her) off the top of the rung.
Those are intense, and manageable with a smaller player base.
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Awesome Idea +1 Karma for you.
Race centric or any race any ship?
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You can go with what suits you. I've done these with paintball and they can work a couple of ways. The easiest is to pick a set number of top seats. Those players compete with the "King of the Hill". Row 2 players compete to get shots at the Row 1 players, Row 3 to get at Row 2, etc. It means you'll have several "JV" games during the week, and the Championship fights on Friday or Saturday night.
You'll need to decide what happens to the King of the Hill if he is unseated, does he drop to Tier 1, or cycle all the way to the bottom rung. You can make an argument either way, but it's pretty tough for a level 4 or 5 player to make it to King. Also, you can make the winner the one who is king when it all ends, or the one who spends the most time in the position.
The format is really customizable to allow you the flexibility you want it personalizing a tournament. When you think about it for a few days, the ideas will really flow. You can also have different categories if you want, and have Race centric fights that feed champions into a general melee. You could then crown a Best Player of each race, and an overall champion.
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GUGS is working on a gamepy style game matching service.
I am going to put together an SFC direct tcp/ip game matching page using the EAW, OP and SFC3 command line parameters to launch games directly from the webpage... no ads... no gamespy login...
I intend to share this work with CUGS and whoever else is intersted.
This will not happen overnight but I do intend to do it over the next year.
I think our leagues can develop in parallel and share technology... It should work out nicely. If there is an amalgamation it should be the natural evolution of it and not be forced...
My 2Ά ...
This sounds great Bonk! :thumbsup:
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"JUST DONT GIVE THE POWER TO ANY OF THE OLD GZ GUYS if you do failure of the PBR will be in the future."
Of course this has nothing to do with them having tossed you right Morph?
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"JUST DONT GIVE THE POWER TO ANY OF THE OLD GZ GUYS if you do failure of the PBR will be in the future."
Of course this has nothing to do with them having tossed you right Morph?
One of the good things about the current league is that there is not any person/admin with any power.
All fleets that participate vote for any rule change or league setup etc..
Only the owners of these forums have the power to allow this league running and shut it down if they want to and they r not or will be the GZ guys GZ is dead...
I beleive that after this cycle ends should be a long time break and then if Cugs beleive they have fleets that can participate in this league format they should cooporate somehow with XC and run a new cycle together provided more fleets will be added from the Dyna community and CUGS.
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Has anyone stepped up to take over as Moderator?
Whether this will pick up in the fall or not is an open question, but it would be nice to know that someone will actually take that question up...
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I'll do it, but I will need to draft someone else as fleet rep for the GDA.
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Heh!
Let me know what server you are on Kel :)
And morph, get help man...
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Hey Whoo. You loser. How's fatherhood going?
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Loving every minute of it.
Alicia is a complete joy :)
How are you doin?
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Doing ok still pretenting I play this game.
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I don't understand, why take up CUGS's offer when the same offer has been on the table since PDR got their own forum section here?
D.Net / XenoCorp has supported PDR and will continue to support PDR. I would LOVE to see a PDR website and forums themselves, but I don't think combining it with CUGS will be a good thing, unless you are into donating money and paying for services.
Here, it's done for free.
So, is anyone ever going to take me up on the offer?
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What offer....?
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What offer....?
"I would LOVE to see a PDR website and forums themselves, but I don't think combining it with CUGS will be a good thing, unless you are into donating money and paying for services."
He is talking about making a PBR website hosted on D.net for us.
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oh....duh
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Ok duck be polite here -- remember you left your evil nasty ways behind with the end of SL days...
Now that being said just a few comments (polite ones) regarding Princess Morphs poke at don't let the old GZ gang handle this PRB issue...
Unless I am mistaken PRB was created by Jakle who at the time was acting as lead admin for SFC/OP issues for GZ..so the comment about ensuring the "old gz crew doesnt take control" well I guess it sort of makes me wonder if... (HOLD BACK NOW DUCK BE POLITE HERE)
Ok it makes me wonder if Princess Morph wants to steal the concept of PBR and pretend it his own concept -- ya know sort of like he tried to steal FireSouls OP4.0 or was it 3.4..jeeze maybe steal is to harsh a word -- how about use without giving credit to firesoul well I mean who would have thought firesoul would mind that they changed the name of his work..snicker..
So lets just say we can call this a CUGS/PBR designed by PMorph.. and well he can change some of the punctuation to ensure its all on the up and up right?
Anyways ya get my drift..
Have a nice day y'all
Duck
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LOL @ Duck.
Ya know the saga of this little SF dream we have all had together would make a really great book.
And I second the Slider nomination to run things.
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Man it would be like kicking the dead horse to send this thread back to the top.
I shouldn't do it
I'm better than this.
Ah hell with it........