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Title: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: Starforce2 on March 16, 2008, 09:26:02 pm
I'm cuious how this runs in SFC? I have a ship I can pass along from longisland26, a Legacy modder, that has only around 2k more poly than the gagarn. If you guys think 15k and change will run I'll drop the ship over here for proper converting.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Red_Sharif on March 16, 2008, 09:56:58 pm
I'm cuious how this runs in SFC? I have a ship I can pass along from longisland26, a Legacy modder, that has only around 2k more poly than the gagarn. If you guys think 15k and change will run I'll drop the ship over here for proper converting.

If you are referring to AsylUm's Gagarin, I've used Atheorhaven's port extensively in SFC:OP with no issues. Aside from a minor texturing issue on the nacelles, the ship is flawless. My rig is decent, if dated...about three years old.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Centurus on March 16, 2008, 10:02:33 pm
15K for a ship is nearing the poly limit for SFC3.  I do not know the poly limit for SFC2/OP, but I would imagine that the same would apply as well.

I haven't used the Gagarin in SFC3 yet.  Been kinda lazy about getting her speced out.  But, if you want, send tha model this way and we'll gladly see how she runs in SFC.

Can't hurt to try.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Starforce2 on March 16, 2008, 10:27:48 pm
Ok, what email would you like me to send it to? It's pushing 7000k, well over the attach limit for the board.

And Red, what are those nacelle issues ya were refering to?
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Centurus on March 16, 2008, 10:36:50 pm
Hmmm....good question.  I think in this case we should gather up a mailing list for this particular ship.  Anyone who wants to test her out.

Send mine to either Golden_Centurion@hotmail.com or F9thCenturus@gmail.com
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Kreeargh on March 16, 2008, 10:41:08 pm
15K for a ship is nearing the poly limit for SFC3.  I do not know the poly limit for SFC2/OP, but I would imagine that the same would apply as well.

I haven't used the Gagarin in SFC3 yet.  Been kinda lazy about getting her speced out.  But, if you want, send tha model this way and we'll gladly see how she runs in SFC.

Can't hurt to try.

By my own experiance sfcop can run my 47580 poly tiger tank model but the lag is horrable  :D
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Centurus on March 16, 2008, 10:44:31 pm
15K for a ship is nearing the poly limit for SFC3.  I do not know the poly limit for SFC2/OP, but I would imagine that the same would apply as well.

I haven't used the Gagarin in SFC3 yet.  Been kinda lazy about getting her speced out.  But, if you want, send tha model this way and we'll gladly see how she runs in SFC.

Can't hurt to try.

By my own experiance sfcop can run my 47580 poly tiger tank model but the lag is horrable  :D

You've got to be sh***ing me!!!!  Seriously????
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Starforce2 on March 16, 2008, 10:49:24 pm
Hmmm....good question.  I think in this case we should gather up a mailing list for this particular ship.  Anyone who wants to test her out.

Send mine to either Golden_Centurion@hotmail.com or F9thCenturus@gmail.com

Ok, tomarrow sometime I will send it (hopefully I wont forget lol) and I think it's in 3ds (there's also milkshape file) so it will obviously need to be messed with first as I don't know the porting process and I'll also send you the authors email so you can keep him aprised of the release status. He has more than one ship and intends to send more, I believe they are all roughly on the same poly level.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Kreeargh on March 16, 2008, 10:53:52 pm
15K for a ship is nearing the poly limit for SFC3.  I do not know the poly limit for SFC2/OP, but I would imagine that the same would apply as well.

I haven't used the Gagarin in SFC3 yet.  Been kinda lazy about getting her speced out.  But, if you want, send tha model this way and we'll gladly see how she runs in SFC.

Can't hurt to try.

By my own experiance sfcop can run my 47580 poly tiger tank model but the lag is horrable  :D

You've got to be sh***ing me!!!!  Seriously????

Yea ive got some screen caps of it in game and also my other super high poly model for me any way the edmund fitgerald it works in game its around 20000 poly
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Red_Sharif on March 16, 2008, 11:10:29 pm
Put me on that mailing list as well, please...

p.chris.hughes@gmail.com

Thank ya.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Tus-XC on March 16, 2008, 11:24:41 pm
EAW/OP don't have a poly limit like 3 does, so 14k is fine.  Its really textures that cause slow downs for future reference.  Some people will complain though if you release something that big... i can almost guarantee it...
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Centurus on March 16, 2008, 11:27:01 pm
15K for a ship is nearing the poly limit for SFC3.  I do not know the poly limit for SFC2/OP, but I would imagine that the same would apply as well.

I haven't used the Gagarin in SFC3 yet.  Been kinda lazy about getting her speced out.  But, if you want, send tha model this way and we'll gladly see how she runs in SFC.

Can't hurt to try.

By my own experiance sfcop can run my 47580 poly tiger tank model but the lag is horrable  :D

You've got to be sh***ing me!!!!  Seriously????

Yea ive got some screen caps of it in game and also my other super high poly model for me any way the edmund fitgerald it works in game its around 20000 poly

Incredible.  Simply incredible.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Centurus on March 16, 2008, 11:28:41 pm
EAW/OP don't have a poly limit like 3 does, so 14k is fine.  Its really textures that cause slow downs for future reference.  Some people will complain though if you release something that big... i can almost guarantee it...

I think you can certainly guarantee it.   ;D

But it is very interesting to know that SFC2 and OP don't have poly limits.  The poly limit for SFC3 might have been one of the code issues that Taldren was never able to address.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Kreeargh on March 17, 2008, 01:42:44 am
EAW/OP don't have a poly limit like 3 does, so 14k is fine.  Its really textures that cause slow downs for future reference.  Some people will complain though if you release something that big... i can almost guarantee it...

I dont want to argue about this but my tank only has 1 512 x 512 color map poly count does have some lag problems  :angel:
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Tus-XC on March 17, 2008, 03:47:25 am
well i should clarify, when we are dealing w/ poly counts from 1k- 15k, its the textures that cause the majority of the performance issues ;)
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Starforce2 on March 17, 2008, 05:50:06 am
Well folks, when I get home from work this afternoon, there will be a second ship...a Kumari...I just got the pm for handing that over to SFC modders sometime overnight.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Starforce2 on March 17, 2008, 08:42:47 pm
ya should have yur ships.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: ModelsPlease on March 18, 2008, 07:56:18 am
Send one my way SF  :)
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: Starforce2 on March 18, 2008, 10:19:06 am
What email? Ya need something that can take 7 meg unless you want to get on msn...
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: atheorhaven on March 18, 2008, 10:35:43 am
If you are referring to AsylUm's Gagarin, I've used Atheorhaven's port extensively in SFC:OP with no issues. Aside from a minor texturing issue on the nacelles, the ship is flawless. My rig is decent, if dated...about three years old.

If I get some time one of these evenings, I'll go back to the mesh and see if I can't fix that.  It happened during the .MOD export I think, it didn't look like that before..
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: Red_Sharif on March 18, 2008, 02:02:21 pm
If you are referring to AsylUm's Gagarin, I've used Atheorhaven's port extensively in SFC:OP with no issues. Aside from a minor texturing issue on the nacelles, the ship is flawless. My rig is decent, if dated...about three years old.

If I get some time one of these evenings, I'll go back to the mesh and see if I can't fix that.  It happened during the .MOD export I think, it didn't look like that before..

I'm sure your time is at a premium, but if you can revisit this, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?
Post by: atheorhaven on March 18, 2008, 03:29:10 pm
I'm sure your time is at a premium, but if you can revisit this, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Premium is about right.. I usually work on SFC at the expense of getting a lot of sleep.  ;)

But it does need to be fixed.. the original mesh as sent over didn't have it, so exporting it shouldn't add errors to a great mesh..
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: Starforce2 on March 21, 2008, 02:53:07 pm
centarus I've not heard form you...did the mail go through?
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: Centurus on March 21, 2008, 03:01:04 pm
I knew I forgot to do something.  I'll check either later today or sometime during the weekend.

I don't know what I ate, but damn I've beeen spewing some noxious gas that would make Satan reach for the air freshener.

Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: Centurus on March 21, 2008, 03:02:28 pm
*smacks SF with a rubber chicken and turns him into Barbara Streisand's nose*

Get a better spellchecker.

 ;D
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: Starforce2 on March 21, 2008, 04:13:12 pm
I knew I forgot to do something.  I'll check either later today or sometime during the weekend.

I don't know what I ate, but damn I've beeen spewing some noxious gas that would make Satan reach for the air freshener.



F9thCenturdus? :laugh:
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: Centurus on March 21, 2008, 06:58:49 pm
I knew I forgot to do something.  I'll check either later today or sometime during the weekend.

I don't know what I ate, but damn I've beeen spewing some noxious gas that would make Satan reach for the air freshener.



F9thCenturdus? :laugh:

*smacks SF again and turns him into Rosie O'Donnell's last tampon*
Title: Re: Hows the performance of the gagarn?<-those who wanted the ships check yur mail
Post by: Centurus on March 26, 2008, 12:05:21 am
Well, I decided to take a look at the ships.  They look very nice.  I recognize the Sentinel from Legacy UU.  Not a bad ship.  Not my personal choice for a Fed, but she's alright.  Could do with better textures, but that's just me.

The Kumari is also nicely constructed.  However, the lightmaps could use some enhancement, especially when it comes to the impulse engines and a couple other things.  They barely show at all in MAX under Radiosity.