The journal Physical Review Letters shares details about a recent study of the cosmic microwave background – light emitted when the universe was only 400,000 years old. It is relic radiation that fills the universe and acts as evidence for the Big Bang theory. In 1992 the Cobe satellite discovered tiny fluctuations on the almost completely smooth microwave background; these were thought to be seeds from which galaxy clusters grew.
The physicists’ new model may explain why time moves in a straight line for us. Dr. Adrienne Erickcek and fellow researchers from the California Institute for Technology believe that these fluctuations somehow link to a “bubbling off” of our universe from a previous one. According to their model, new universes may be spontaneously created from empty space – a remarkably unspectacular event from inside the parent universe.
This “arrow of time” has long been blamed by physicists on the second law of thermodynamics. According to this fundamental physical rule, systems move from order to disorder over a period of time. This rule is so fundamental, in fact, that Arthur Eddington, a pioneering astronomer quipped, “If your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation".
Professor Carroll agrees that the law cannot be avoided, unless, of course the Universe began its life in a disordered state. In Carroll’s presentation, he explained that if a Big Bang were created from cold space of a previous universe, the new universe would begin its life in an ordered state. He explained, “Every time you break an egg or spill a glass of water you're learning about the Big Bang”. The fact that you can’t re-assemble a broken egg, and the apparent direction of time are simply consequences.
Is that pretty much ALL you think about?
I agree on the bad tv shows part. But all I've got is movies, I don't have any TV whatsoever.
Yes, but everyone wants what is "popular". I miss those old Bugs Bunny cartoons. Also, what's Sledge Hammer?
I was born in 1993, so I'm 15. My older brother is the one who'd know about that. Beshides, I don't watch much TV anyway, I prefer to be with my girlfriend or be enjoying a fireworks show of homemade bombs.
I'll look into it. But I still prefer my 50. cal over that. My dad has an authentic 50. cal fromm WW2, chains and all.
Hey, I ain't never seen Sledge Hammer, never even heard of it before you mentioned it. I like anything that makes a loud BOOM!
Perhaps they'll put it on one of those rerun shows on TV one day...........
They have the shows "Hammeroid" and "Here's to you, Mrs Hammer" on U-Tube.
"Hammeroid" was a brillian piss take of "Robocop". ;D
Basically Hammer is a "Guns and Ammo" nut and a Nhilalist.
Great one liners in every show....
Oh my gosh, if you belive some of this, you're a complete idiot. I belive in a Big Bang theory, but you've got the wrong time period. It will be at the end of time, it was not at the begining.
Back on topic.[/color]Oh my gosh, if you belive some of this, you're a complete idiot. I belive in a Big Bang theory, but you've got the wrong time period. It will be at the end of time, it was not at the begining.
I don't pretend to have the scientific knowledge to fully evaluate this.
On what education in physics and cosmology do you base your assertion?
This is so easy, I ain't even gonna touch it.
This is so easy, I ain't even gonna touch it.
Perhaps, but sometimes people do surprise me.
Awww, come on. Even I surprise you once in a while. Especially that time you found me in your sock drawer planting marbles.
Awww, come on. Even I surprise you once in a while. Especially that time you found me in your sock drawer planting marbles.
At least now we know where you lost your marbles.
In one episode Sledge turns up at the Police Station with what looks like a megaphone stuck onto the ned of his trusty gun.... he anounces that his invention is called a "Louder" and works in the opposite way to a silencer to mke a gun sound louder.... he then proceeds to demostrate it in Captain Trunk's office as cops dive for cover.
Sledge is gun mad and once returned from a 2 week vacation in Beruit.... which he decribed as his kind of city. This was in the mid 1980's.... ::)
When a neighbour refused to turn down his hi-fi, Sledge simply shot it through the wall.... ::)
Sldege once drove up and down a freeway with a "scumball bag snatcher" handcuffed outside his car, for an hour in order to let the criminal consider his crimes. Sldege said that he didn't want to make his car's interior dirty.
Seldge's favourite piece of music is the 1812 overture.... ::)
Sledge once had an attack of vertigo on seeing a picture of Mount Everest.
Sledge compains that left wing pinko bleeding heart liberals are ruining the country. He also likes shooting guns a lot..... as do certain H&S members, mentioning no names.
Sledge is a typical H&S member, come to think about it. ;D
Was the "Big Bang" just God fooling around with a "loudener"?? ;D
I think I know what Akira based his ideas off of, I think he goes with some Christian ideas, my friend has some of the same ideas as well. Things such as evolution and the Big Bang theory are just absurd. Also, I don't take kindly to jokes about God, I learned the hard way (bullet ricochete hit me in the side, just after I made a joke about God.)
I think I know what Akira based his ideas off of, I think he goes with some Christian ideas
I think I know what Akira based his ideas off of, I think he goes with some Christian ideas, my friend has some of the same ideas as well. Things such as evolution and the Big Bang theory are just absurd. Also, I don't take kindly to jokes about God, I learned the hard way (bullet ricochete hit me in the side, just after I made a joke about God.)
This forum is for science and technology not religion. If you wish to debate religious reasons not to believe these theories please start a thread in Hot and Spicy to do so.
Does that mean I can't pray to the Fonz anymore?
Does that mean I can't pray to the Fonz anymore?
Sure you can - in the appropriate forum.
Sorry about that Nemesis, I got a little carried away there. Also, who the heck is "the Fonz"?
Well, when you climb the mountain of truth, you'll see that the Baptists were sitting there the whole time. * pointing at himself and other Baptists alike*
I'm not trying to argue points in denomination, beshides, I'm too young for H&S, I'm only 15.
Ok, but show me a very convincing piece of evidence supporting the Big Bang theory and I may begin to belive it, but I know that there's nothing like that anywhere in the world. Show me that evidence, and I'll renounce everything I've ever belived.
So, it may be moving on it's own, not because of a bang.
Who knows what that's from, until you build a time machine to prove t, I consider it false. So, anything else you want to try to convince me?
They are still showing the same dang thing, another one not conserning radiation.
I never said a device, I said evidence, not a device.
I have none, but I don't dwell on it because I've got better things to do than worry about it. But if you want to say it's true povide enough evidence to indesputably prove it.
I have none, but I don't dwell on it because I've got better things to do than worry about it. But if you want to say it's true povide enough evidence to indesputably prove it.
The only reason I'm on here debating it is because I'm sick and I can't go working outside today. Beshides, you want scientific proof, which I have none, execpt perhaps that it disprves age, there are 110-120 ways to age the planet, and only 7 or so ways say the planet is older than 10,000 years old. Beshides, Carbon-14 is very unreliable, put some chicken in the microwave and it will be older, much older than you are. So Carbon-14 is an unreliable way to age th planet, beyond that, I have nothing.
The only reason I'm on here debating it is because I'm sick and I can't go working outside today. Beshides, you want scientific proof, which I have none, execpt perhaps that it disprves age, there are 110-120 ways to age the planet, and only 7 or so ways say the planet is older than 10,000 years old. Beshides, Carbon-14 is very unreliable, put some chicken in the microwave and it will be older, much older than you are. So Carbon-14 is an unreliable way to age th planet, beyond that, I have nothing.
Obviously, I was told wrong by my science teacher, but I know of none of the other methods, I've been trying to do other things online. I rarely bother with this because I'm usually busy with other things, I said only seven were saying that the Earth is older than 10,000 years old. The rest are saying is it's young. I just go with what a good Christian man is saying, he's the pastor of my church and does not lie, wait till this Sunday and I'll have the proof you want.
Obviously, I was told wrong by my science teacher, but I know of none of the other methods, I've been trying to do other things online. I rarely bother with this because I'm usually busy with other things, I said only seven were saying that the Earth is older than 10,000 years old. The rest are saying is it's young. I just go with what a good Christian man is saying, he's the pastor of my church and does not lie, wait till this Sunday and I'll have the proof you want.
Obviously, I was told wrong by my science teacher, but I know of none of the other methods, I've been trying to do other things online. I rarely bother with this because I'm usually busy with other things, I said only seven were saying that the Earth is older than 10,000 years old. The rest are saying is it's young. I just go with what a good Christian man is saying, he's the pastor of my church and does not lie, wait till this Sunday and I'll have the proof you want.
The figure of the earth's age at 10,000 years is derived from biblical literalism, tracing the genealogies in the bible until you reach a point where you can correlate figures mentioned against the bible with known historical figures and dates. Your pastor may be truthful in saying that he does not believe the earth to be older than 10,000 years, but that does not mean the earth is not older.
Biblical terms say the Earth is 6,000 years old. I belive him, he's also the one who told me about those methods. He bashes evoloution and the Big Bang theory often. If you wish to dispute him, be prepared because he graduated college as part of a Science Honors Society. he knows much more than I do and I believe what he says.
Biblical terms say the Earth is 6,000 years old. I belive him, he's also the one who told me about those methods. He bashes evoloution and the Big Bang theory often. If you wish to dispute him, be prepared because he graduated college as part of a Science Honors Society. he knows much more than I do and I believe what he says.
I never said that, I was only stating that which I was told. He spent alot of time studying both arguments with an open mind. He found more evidence supporting Christian beliefs than those supporting the Big Bang. Also, I may be young, but I don't find this intresting, I just took a look and decided to put a small note in and it became this debate. I did my best to follow my pastors steps as best I could to allow me to see exactly what he saw and I saw exactly what he saw, it makes more sense to believe in something like ID or Christianity than the Big Bang, I'd rather not belive in something that happened by complete accident.
Eh, centur,
the big bang and "God did it" both have the same problem with them:
There isn't any explanation as to what happend BEFORE God existed, or what existed -- if anything -- before the big bang.
That's the hypocracy of the creationist mindset. They are unable to explain what existed before God. Of course, in the bible it states that "God is and ever was" implying a certain paradox that is difficult or impossible to comprehend in human terms. But still, the hypocracy still exists: The unablity to explain what came BEFORE.
They use this critique against the big bang theory; stating that since we don't know what came before the big bang that somehow invalidates or pokes a large hole in the theory, yet they seem to be unwilling to address that the very same critique can be applied to the creationist concept as well. What came before God...what existed before he created the universe.
So, it may be moving on it's own, not because of a bang.
I never said that, I was only stating that which I was told. He spent alot of time studying both arguments with an open mind. He found more evidence supporting Christian beliefs than those supporting the Big Bang.
Sorry about earlier everyone, I raise the white flag. But I've was taught to be intolerant of other beliefs because the devil would try to allure me into a trap of some sorts. But, I guess the only way to find out for sure is to die and find out for yourself. Then to the problem of sending a messenger back to the living. also, the beliefs I was refering to was standard Christian beliefs, not counting Johovah's Witnesses..
Of course not, I'm Protestant!
Thanks, but I finally surrender, but I still will not become a Big Bang supporter.
Oh well, as long as it don't involve Centurus colliding with a rubber chicken, I'll listen.
Perhaps that's why you're obsessed with rubber chickens.............................. :huh:
:huh: What was that?
No, I ain't hungry, I want to blow stuff up. And my name ain't Rosie!!!!
Take it back! * throws it back and it detonates leaving a thick cloud of smoke*
*winces............................no exsplosion* Ha its a dud! Beshides, I had on another arm. *takes off the spare arm and hands it to Centurus*.
I also regenarate, you didn't know that. *gets back up on two legs with a new arm* Here you go. *hands a thermite grenade to Centurus, it has maximum stregth super glue and sticks to his chest. The pin is missing, spartan leans back and watches a barbeque as Centurus screams in pain.*
You've got it all wrong.
I created the universe. In all my great and infinate wisdom, I decided not to allow any evidence of my existance or creation to survive the act of creation.
I've come to the conclusion that it's much funnier to let all you hapless mortals argue and fight over my existance than to give any clear evidence.
All of lifes foibles are for the entertainment of the supreme being.
We don't care for you Bishop, and how'd you know about the mannequien legs and arms????
I got them at Wal-Mart.......And sorry Punisher, I was just calling you what your name says. Sorry.....
No I had mens parts. But O'Mally may be around here some where, be ready and tell your rubber chickens to seek him out and kill him before he aquires the launch codes for the US nukes.
No, they're all organic. * takes out a knife and draws blood from the right arm, right and left legs.* See they're real.
Now, this is my father's bouy knife. It's real.
Aww, you son of a *cut off by Shelia the tank blowing Centurus up. He's amazed by Shelia*
You've got it all wrong.
I created the universe. In all my great and infinate wisdom, I decided not to allow any evidence of my existance or creation to survive the act of creation.
I've come to the conclusion that it's much funnier to let all you hapless mortals argue and fight over my existance than to give any clear evidence.
All of lifes foibles are for the entertainment of the supreme being.
Oh yeah? Then how do you explain Pee Wee Herman?
You've got it all wrong.
I created the universe. In all my great and infinate wisdom, I decided not to allow any evidence of my existance or creation to survive the act of creation.
I've come to the conclusion that it's much funnier to let all you hapless mortals argue and fight over my existance than to give any clear evidence.
All of lifes foibles are for the entertainment of the supreme being.
Oh yeah? Then how do you explain Pee Wee Herman?
Even God has an off day.
You've got it all wrong.
I created the universe. In all my great and infinate wisdom, I decided not to allow any evidence of my existance or creation to survive the act of creation.
I've come to the conclusion that it's much funnier to let all you hapless mortals argue and fight over my existance than to give any clear evidence.
All of lifes foibles are for the entertainment of the supreme being.
Oh yeah? Then how do you explain Pee Wee Herman?
Even God has an off day.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Rodger. Shelia responded *Shelia's turret turns right to Centurus's head, then fires* Eeeewwww. Brains all over the wall. *Spartan hears a voice and turns to see a guy running towards a red base.* He yells "Church! I'm coming to help! Don't start without me! *Then a rocket hit's the blue guy and he blows up* Church stands prisonor on top the Red base. "Caboose! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" *Spartan turns back and thinks it's so familiar.*
*During the rucus, Spartan sneaks to his fighter, gets in and flies to space. He calls Centurus* and says, too bad, I'm the one who pulled the trigger, you destroyed the wrong one.
Ok, but you can't catch me now! I'm now in a alternate dimension and you'll never find me. Oh no...............
No! It's a whole world of Centurues! I'm doomed!
OMG! I'm being surronded by floating rubber chickens, they're all dead, what happened here?
They're dead, I'm in freaking space, they're all dead! Oh well, target practice!
Who's Rosanne?
What? How am I supposed to know? It's just like that Fonz guy.
Ah shut up. I just am clueless.
Oh well, now to the building of empires!
Biblical terms say the Earth is 6,000 years old. I belive him, he's also the one who told me about those methods. He bashes evoloution and the Big Bang theory often. If you wish to dispute him, be prepared because he graduated college as part of a Science Honors Society. he knows much more than I do and I believe what he says.