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Title: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: stoneyface on May 22, 2010, 05:07:02 pm
http://buzzaldrin.com/space-vision/rocket_science/starbooster/

a very interesting design concept. very modular and flexible depending on mission objectives. i like it. give it a look
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: marstone on May 22, 2010, 06:30:43 pm
looks interesting.
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Kreeargh on May 22, 2010, 07:13:33 pm
I hope they get it done. The shuttle fleet is all but dead now only a few flights left and we cant trust the russians to get us up there.
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Tulwar on May 23, 2010, 12:46:07 am
I don't like this concept at all.  The Challenger and the Columbia were destroyed by the consequences of the booster arrangement.  This concept differs by putting two orbiters in peril at the same time.
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: FoaS_XC on May 23, 2010, 01:06:13 am
I don't like this concept at all.  The Challenger and the Columbia were destroyed by the consequences of the booster arrangement.  This concept differs by putting two orbiters in peril at the same time.

I'm sure the designers have considered that and taken steps to mitigate any danger based on specific points in the findings.
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Tulwar on May 24, 2010, 01:06:34 am
I believe in the KISS principle.  This looks complicated.
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Sirgod on May 24, 2010, 06:11:07 pm
I believe in the KISS principle.  This looks complicated.

LOL, Well it is Rocket Science. :D :D :D

Stephen
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: stoneyface on May 24, 2010, 08:21:23 pm
actually it is quite simple much simpler than nasa method. nasa tries to make 1 vehicle do everything. this method has a few designs to best match mission parameters. quite ingenius if you ask me
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Tus-XC on May 24, 2010, 08:39:04 pm
Interesting, but nothing really new with the concept.  It is how we work with our current medium to heavy lift vehicles.  Take the Atlas V or Delta IV for example, our current evolve expendable lift vehicles (EELV) - It can be conifigure multiple ways to achieve the the mission parameters (hell there has been talk of man rating an atlas V).

as i said, interesting concept, not exactly revolutionary. 
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: FoaS_XC on May 24, 2010, 08:39:58 pm
Interesting, but nothing really new with the concept.  It is how we work with our current medium to heavy lift vehicles.  Take the Atlas V or Delta IV for example, our current evolve expendable lift vehicles (EELV) - It can be conifigure multiple ways to achieve the the mission parameters (hell there has been talk of man rating an atlas V).

as i said, interesting concept, not exactly revolutionary. 

See, this is why I hang out with Tus, he really is a rocket surgeon
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Tus-XC on May 24, 2010, 08:46:47 pm
I don't like this concept at all.  The Challenger and the Columbia were destroyed by the consequences of the booster arrangement.  This concept differs by putting two orbiters in peril at the same time.

It actually has nothing to do with the booster arrangment, and more to a) a fault in the booster itself or b) material weaknesses.  The arrangment itself is a sound one, and has been used alot over the past 40 years.  Of course the fact of the matter is until we can develop a technology that can get us to orbit quick and easy with out the need of volatile fuels there will always be inheret dangers involved with sending men into space.  Frankly I think people need to get over this one fact and quit being panzies so we can actually progress in space.  Then, just maybe, we can get to the point where going to space is just as safe as any other human method of transportation.
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Tus-XC on May 24, 2010, 08:48:06 pm
I believe in the KISS principle.  This looks complicated.

there is no such thing as 'simple' when it comes to rockets.

edit: rockets as in those capable of putting  a manmade payload or a human into orbit ;).
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: marstone on May 24, 2010, 10:04:06 pm
a mile long artillery piece.  Nice simple, Boom, in space.  :D
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Tus-XC on May 24, 2010, 10:25:09 pm
a mile long artillery piece.  Nice simple, Boom, in space.  :D

lol, well ya, simple concept, but not simple to do though.
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Tulwar on May 25, 2010, 12:13:07 am

there is no such thing as 'simple' when it comes to rockets.


Simplicity, in my view, is limitting the number of components making up the vehicle.  This is obvious.

Marstone has a point.  It is possible to launch a payload to orbit from a howitzer.  If you remember, Iraq, under Sadam Husein started such a program.  The payloads would overfly Israel.  I think he had a plan to dispose of his arsenal of chemical weapons by sending them into space.  An accident there could have been bad.
Title: Re: =/\= interesting space vehicle/launch rocket design by buzz aldrin's company
Post by: Sirgod on May 25, 2010, 03:54:18 am

there is no such thing as 'simple' when it comes to rockets.


Simplicity, in my view, is limitting the number of components making up the vehicle.  This is obvious.

Marstone has a point.  It is possible to launch a payload to orbit from a howitzer.  If you remember, Iraq, under Sadam Husein started such a program.  The payloads would overfly Israel.  I think he had a plan to dispose of his arsenal of chemical weapons by sending them into space.  An accident there could have been bad.

There was a movie/Documentary about that Giant gun also, But darned if I can remember the name of it. Now I got to go digging around for it.

Thanks for reminding me of that, I believe it was an HBO film.

Stephen