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now now...
don't be mad. After all art judging is a very inprecise thing. Don't take a contest too personally, it's not about one winning or losing, it's about a display of models.
Don't give up, as long as someone appreciates your work, it's not in vain.
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now now...
don't be mad. After all art judging is a very inprecise thing. Don't take a contest too personally, it's not about one winning or losing, it's about a display of models.
Don't give up, as long as someone appreciates your work, it's not in vain.
I'd be mad if I were him too.. he entered in some of his classic stuff in these rounds, plus new stuff that's been asked for (like that new Rommie variant based off the new one from Enterprise.. and did it in more than one round. Not a nod, or even that much of an acknowledgement.
I'm more than annoyed as well, because my two entries never were even mentioned as being entered! This despite being sent in the day *after* round 3 ended so that I could be sure to have it in in time for round 4. I wouldn't have minded not winning, but I wanted to at least *see* my models as being entered...
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My heart just tells me that Taldren only picks the models by people they like. Not the ones that deserve to win. They seem to judge the models on a "friend" basis.
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Winners are chosen by a panel of Taldren artists. They do not know who is connected to each model and judge it based upon their own personal criteria.
-Davie Ferrell, http://208.57.228.3/ubb/Forum1/HTML/020985.html
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Well, Lets look at the some of the models that won, there is no way skinman's ship should have won with some of the other ships that were entered, and this last round, I think Rick knox and myself had some of the best ones. Im not saying that I SHOULD have won, but the one that did, should not have.
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I never received an entry from you, unless it was the one in the mail below:
The entry above was never resubmitted(to the best of my knowledge but hey the user didn't identify himself so maybe he did, if so it was judged).
Thanks,
Dave
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To enter, zip up your model and mail it to admin@taldren.com. Be sure to put the words 'Model Contest' in the subject line.
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to be honest, I think that was only said, but not enforced. otherwise I think Rick Knox would have won this round.
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Im sorry if it hurts you that i dont think your model was the best.
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Well, im sorry, but by voicing my opinion, one of the results of that is going to be insulting to someone, no matter what. but as a modeller, I can see whats what, and the winners of the last 2 rounds were not the best, and there are many people here that agree with me, but dont want to lose face in front of others. thats their right, and it IS my right to disagree with the results, and im sorry, but it will offend the winners. there is no way for me to say my opinion without someone getting upset in this case, thats life, i deal with it everyday at my job. you cant sugar coat the truth.
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Obviously Skin Man, you havent read all of my posts. i Dont think about just myself. I think your ship that won the third round was completely unworthy compared to cleeves ship. i would have much rather lost to his model. its nothing personal, just my opinion. So you have a degree and I dont, does that mean, in your eyes, I cant have an opinion on this? I have just as much right as you do to state what i think on a PUBLIC forum. As I said, i dont care only about myself, but I DO think that the models that won round 3 and 4 were not the best. Im sorry if it hurts you that i dont think your model was the best.
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Well, im sorry, but by voicing my opinion, one of the results of that is going to be insulting to someone, no matter what. but as a modeller, I can see whats what, and the winners of the last 2 rounds were not the best, and there are many people here that agree with me, but dont want to lose face in front of others. thats their right, and it IS my right to disagree with the results, and im sorry, but it will offend the winners. there is no way for me to say my opinion without someone getting upset in this case, thats life, i deal with it everyday at my job. you cant sugar coat the truth.
And our professional modelers who judged the constest are chop liver?
You are nothing but a spoiled child who is upset because you didn't win. Well it wasn't even close. Rick Knox came
close, Cleeve came close, you weren't even in the running.
See you later loser,
Dave
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Well, im sorry, but by voicing my opinion, one of the results of that is going to be insulting to someone, no matter what. but as a modeller, I can see whats what, and the winners of the last 2 rounds were not the best, and there are many people here that agree with me, but dont want to lose face in front of others. thats their right, and it IS my right to disagree with the results, and im sorry, but it will offend the winners. there is no way for me to say my opinion without someone getting upset in this case, thats life, i deal with it everyday at my job. you cant sugar coat the truth.
And our professional modelers who judged the constest are chop liver?
You are nothing but a spoiled child who is upset because you didn't win. Well it wasn't even close. Rick Knox came
close, Cleeve came close, you weren't even in the running.
See you later loser,
Dave
Thats the response I expected. you take what i say and twist it completly around to make me look worse. and excuse me, but if you are going to start calling me names now, I think that may end up being more trouble than you can ever imagine or would ever want. be careful how you address me.i never called you names, i never said that your modelers are chop liver, but since you brought it up, ive spoken with game companies that use your models as examples of WHAT NOT TO DO.
You can justify it any way you wish. im just sorry you dont see where I am comming from here. as i said before, i wasnt talking about just my stuff.
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<SNIP> you have now insulted our artists, (good guys that have a lot more talent than you). </SNIP>
Dave
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you know im so happy that im not that active around here anymore. just listen to all of this crap...
look what a simple contest turns into now.
there were some nice models, and some not so nice ones from what ive seen.
some of the winning ships are not that fantastic and to be totally honest at the risk of being flamed for voicing my opinion like LB, had i entered such a contest i would have expected better from taldren and the judges.
im not taking any sides here, but its just my thoughts on things...