Topic: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull.. (Read 5588 times)

FireSoul · « **on:** October 02, 2003, 10:54:30 pm »

I was at Montana's with Strafer, the SO and the baby.. and I was drawing on the table diagrams and ideas along the lines of OP+, what could be added.. .. and I was describing captured ships, when I had this interesting revelation..

Historical Background (made up, of course..)
In Y176, A F-CC+ was ambushed along the Romulan neutral zone by multiple warbirds. The battle was absolutely one-sided as the Fed was conned into WW to the wrong weapons, was stripped of all its shields by 2 Envelopping PLaRs and was forced to declare emergency saucer separation to what turned out to be a well-thought out feint which left the secondary hull relatively intact. The still-battle-worthy saucer section was quickly dispatched and the now inactive rear-hull was kept as a prize.

.. but what do you do with still 'good' Federation secondary hull? Well, you replace the saucer portion of course..
.. but with what? .. Why, with .. something that has the size and shape of a Federation saucer, and has impulse only..
.. Like a WB+, which has only impulse engines.

PS. Yes, the model is crappy, but I just wanted to see what it would look like.

Do you like the idea?

-- Luc

Edit: Original title not catchy enough. Stats have been separated into sections that clearly define the WB's and Fed's parts.

FireSoul · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2003, 02:01:41 am »

PS:
Looking for comments about story, model, etc..
If it's good enough, it just might be an interesting submission to ADB.

Soreyes · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2003, 03:56:18 am »

I think your on to somthing here FireSoul. The story is very well thought out.
The only thought I have is that maybe there should be two break away supports, from the WB to the secondary hull. I would think the mass of the WB is abit more then the saucer section?

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2003, 05:18:07 am »

This is a good idea, but I think I'd like it even better if WZ45's connie and War Eagle were kitbashed together...

Qapla!

KF

DONOTDELETE · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2003, 07:33:09 am »

Bonjour FireSoul,

Mon Dieu!!!
Sa c'est magnifique!
Tellement magnifigue!!!,

Vous etes un vrai artiste de la 3d starship modding,

Quote:

PS:
Looking for comments about story, model, etc..
If it's good enough, it just might be an interesting submission to ADB.

J'aime beaucoup votre Fed/Rom Hybrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C'est tellement beau,

Salut,

Agent Sloan (aka Don "le Maudis Anglais"

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Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2003, 10:19:59 am »

hi Firesoul
go to demon renagade studios links are with wz's sig line.

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2003, 12:06:22 pm »

Cool idea, FireSoul.

I like the idea of some of these captured ships making it into our shiplists and model folders. The added flava is cool...

Atrahasis · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2003, 12:19:51 pm »

LOL My IKV Hood model has inspired many I see.

Azel · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2003, 01:39:26 pm »

Firesoul,
This maybe one of the greatest concepts!!!!
I love it.!!!!
Thanks
Hey can you do another one using better models???
And a variant using the whole warbird??? with 2 necks holding the connie hull???

Atrahasis · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2003, 02:09:13 pm »

Speaking of captured ships, what about that captured Romulan Bird of Prey-turned-Fed ship that was on the frontpage of newships all those years ago? I always thought that one was neat, if someone has the model maybe I can upgrade it if it needs it.

FireSoul · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2003, 02:11:56 pm »

I've just been advised that the WB+ itself, as crappy as it is, as a movement cost of 1. So does the WE, as it happens.

Well.. here's a different idea..
.. what if we made this a DN?

FireSoul · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2003, 02:41:40 pm »

Ok.. here's the deal..

.. the WB+ is too heavy to mount in the front like I suggested.
.. SO, what if..

.. what if we reinforce the neck of the secondary hull, and installed a WE instead WITH the warps. In the rear, reinforce the struts to support and install warps from a crippled KR-series ship (which would mean I would have to romulanize a good set of KR warps). The plasmas would have to be removed from the neck due to stress, but the ship would still be worthy:

Azel · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2003, 02:44:22 pm »

Very cool..a DN now

or lose the aft Nacelles...but still cool man

DONOTDELETE · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2003, 02:45:12 pm »

Hey man,

Its 3d modders perogative,
It was your minds-eye creation last night in your head,
So you get to design her,
and you get to name her,

"Bon Chance Captaine"

Take care,
Agent Sloan

FireSoul · « **Reply #27 on:** October 03, 2003, 03:23:15 pm »

Well.. I'm gonna put down the designer pen since now the model looks silly, and is not very workable in SFB. I *am* going to try to find alternatives to a WE, but I am not holding my breath. However, the idea has at least been presented to the forum, and someone else may pick up on it if they want.

EDIT:
Ohh. Ohh. The BattleHawk's perfect.

Back to the original design, then.

Kaenyne · « **Reply #28 on:** October 03, 2003, 03:32:43 pm »

How about an enlarged version of the Romulan Warbird that appeared in "Enterprise"? She might be pre-TOS, but she looks more advanced than her later counterparts.

A long time ago one was made for that modeling contest, but it disappeared. Specs are published in an issue of Star Trek: The Magazine but I have seen little else about this nifty Romulan.

Atrahasis · « **Reply #29 on:** October 03, 2003, 03:45:53 pm »

Hmm maybe a Belknap sec hull would be better, since it's smaller it would look more proportional to the small hull of the WE.

Azel · « **Reply #30 on:** October 03, 2003, 04:14:16 pm »

That was Anduril's Pre-TOS warbird...But its not for DL...unfortunately

Marauth · « **Reply #32 on:** October 03, 2003, 04:45:45 pm »

Hang on a mo, was not his King Condor and that Sebastopol he did put up for d/l along with a few other things he did that escape me at the moment. Anyway, I wouldn't use the so-called pre-TOS warbird as it totally doesn't fit the TMP era romulan designs like the war eagle in those pics does. In any case I don't think the romulans would waste a prefectly good war eagle hull on a conversion of a fed ship, they would be more inclined to use the less-capable battlehawk as a basis for such a conversion as they were not as needed in the fleet as the war eagles. Just IMO. Only problem then is that we need a decent battlehawk model...

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