Topic: Heroic-Class, USS Christopher Reeve (Read 14135 times)

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #1 on:** October 12, 2004, 04:26:33 pm »

He would be proud and honoured, i think.

markyd · « **Reply #2 on:** October 12, 2004, 04:39:16 pm »

no I think about it... HE WOULD BE PROUD OF THAT!

Az Im sure you pull these out of a hat.... Awsome.... who is making the model? ???

Adonis · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2004, 04:46:36 pm »

Nice design as alway man

Mackie · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2004, 05:25:46 pm »

a very good and fitting design indeed

Azel · « **Reply #5 on:** October 12, 2004, 05:42:09 pm »

Quote from: markyd on October 12, 2004, 04:39:16 pm

no I think about it... HE WOULD BE PROUD OF THAT!

Az Im sure you pull these out of a hat.... Awsome.... who is making the model? ???

How about you???
Care to do the honor???

markyd · « **Reply #6 on:** October 12, 2004, 06:10:13 pm »

I would be honoured... if their are no takes I would make it... thank you.

I would also like to see the (Project)

J-O-K-E-R · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2004, 07:42:04 pm »

DAMN DUDE, You do some good pencil work too.
Very good looking design.

J. Carney · « **Reply #8 on:** October 12, 2004, 08:27:53 pm »

That is the best looking post-TNG work to come out in a long time...

Worthy to bear the name, without a doubt.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2004, 09:07:33 pm »

Damn!! That is freakin" awesome!

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #10 on:** October 12, 2004, 09:11:59 pm »

I'm not a big TNG/Post TNG fan any more but let me tell you what I have been thinking about this design:

I can see it as the USS Reeves and it rendered with the Earth below her and the sun at her back. The dedication plaque would read: "..faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive..."

Sister ships could have the names of the other actors who have played Superman and even Supergirl but the prototype of this class should be the creator of the man from Krypton (name escapes me at the moment) with the red 'S' instead of the starfleet emblem.

This is my odd way of saying: "Nice job Azel."

KF

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2004, 09:39:41 pm »

Do we have a registry number for her?

also when this is done, i would like to have a list of everyone who contributes to this project, no matter how insignifigant. If you add a little detail to the textures, i want to know it.
here is why.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #12 on:** October 12, 2004, 10:45:11 pm »

How about his birthdate as the regisrty ?

Major A Payne · « **Reply #13 on:** October 13, 2004, 12:01:05 am »

Excellent work Azel. I wonder if I should give this one a go for Armada??

Rhaz · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2004, 01:06:09 pm »

Azel - I agree - a super ship for a super being!

Fury - awesome plaque!

Best of luck to the modeler!

Azel · « **Reply #15 on:** October 13, 2004, 02:09:12 pm »

SV that is awesome work...we should release that in the Mod file of the ship

markyd · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2004, 02:55:50 pm »

work will start today!

Azel · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2004, 02:56:51 pm »

Quote from: markyd on October 13, 2004, 02:55:50 pm

work will start today!

NICE

Sapharite · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2004, 03:23:44 pm »

This was a nice Idea at all. I like this dedication plaque

Centurus · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2004, 04:51:19 pm »

Quote from: Furyofaseraph on October 12, 2004, 09:39:41 pm

Do we have a registry number for her?

also when this is done, i would like to have a list of everyone who contributes to this project, no matter how insignifigant. If you add a little detail to the textures, i want to know it.
here is why.

There anyway I could possibly get that image of the Superman insignia? I've been wanting to change my avatar but haven't found the image I want yet, and now I have.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2004, 08:35:40 pm »

Daihak - i just did a google search for Superman.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2004, 09:43:28 pm »

Azel...

My apologies for waiting so long getting to ya on this one... ( work related stuff again!)

.... bud as always ... one heck of a job !! I think that the primary hull looks a bit "stubby" from the side .. but other wise it is a "super job" for the man who we know as "super" !!

excellent !!!

Reverend · « **Reply #22 on:** October 15, 2004, 01:17:11 am »

Wonder if Mrs. Reeves and Jane Seymour would like to see this.... anyone got a contact address for either? I know they'd absolutely love it.

Azel · « **Reply #23 on:** October 15, 2004, 03:57:48 pm »

Dunno how that would be accomplished....but its an idea

Thanks for the support mates!!!

FleetCaptainFrost · « **Reply #24 on:** October 16, 2004, 05:32:27 pm »

As usual, Azel, exquisite work! And props to Furyofaseraph for that sweeeeet dedication plaque!

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2004, 10:42:46 am »

Quote from: Klingon Fanatic on October 12, 2004, 09:11:59 pm

I'm not a big TNG/Post TNG fan any more but let me tell you what I have been thinking about this design:

I can see it as the USS Reeves and it rendered with the Earth below her and the sun at her back. The dedication plaque would read: "..faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive..."

Sister ships could have the names of the other actors who have played Superman and even Supergirl but the prototype of this class should be the creator of the man from Krypton (name escapes me at the moment) with the red 'S' instead of the starfleet emblem.

This is my odd way of saying: "Nice job Azel."

KF

Superman was created in 1933 by
Writer: Jerry Siegel http://theages.superman.ws/Creators/siegelBio.php
and
Artist: Joe Shuster http://www.stta.nu/Creators/shusterBio.php

Actors who played Superman:
Clayton "Bud" Collyer - The voice of Superman for radio during the 1940's.And later for cartoons during the late 1960's
Kirk Alyn - Played Superman in movie serials 1948-1950
George Reeves - Superman on TV 1951,1953,1954-1957
Christopher Reeves - Superman in movies late 70's early 80's
Dean Caine - Superman TV 1990's (The Adventures of Lois and Clark)
Tom Welling - Superman TV ,present ( Smallville)

Helen Slater - Supergirl movie 1984

Hope that helps
-MP

Starforce2 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 18, 2004, 12:05:14 am »

you know, it's too bad you couldn't have taken the superman "diamond" and incorperated that as a major design feature on the ship, such as a bridge. Obviosuly it wouldn't look right on the above design, and I doubt you'd want to redesign it (we don't need another titan...lol). Perhaps life pod hatches being that shape? Doesn't need to have the S on it too that'd look too cheezy, but life pod hatches would be a nice touch. Some of superman in the ship itself.

Azel · « **Reply #27 on:** October 18, 2004, 05:24:27 pm »

Quote from: Starforce2 on October 18, 2004, 12:05:14 am

you know, it's too bad you couldn't have taken the superman "diamond" and incorperated that as a major design feature on the ship, such as a bridge. Obviosuly it wouldn't look right on the above design, and I doubt you'd want to redesign it (we don't need another titan...lol). Perhaps life pod hatches being that shape? Doesn't need to have the S on it too that'd look too cheezy, but life pod hatches would be a nice touch. Some of superman in the ship itself.

well the Escape pods on the Sovie are already shaped like that...so that can work as the ship is Sovie era-esq

wulf111 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 19, 2004, 09:19:02 am »

is anyone modeling this yet ? would love to see what it looks like in 3D

Azel · « **Reply #29 on:** October 19, 2004, 10:12:08 am »

Aye MarkyD is tacking a crack at this baby...we are waiting on him

markyd · « **Reply #30 on:** October 21, 2004, 07:42:35 am »

Im on the case.... 60% done... Ive started and restatrted it about ten times... but it looks spot on now!!!

Sochin · « **Reply #31 on:** October 21, 2004, 01:53:45 pm »

marky I know Unity is comming up but can we have some pics please.

markyd · « **Reply #32 on:** October 22, 2004, 08:48:13 am »

ohhhh your gonna have to ask really really nicely....

nah I will post pics this weekend as the model should be finished by sunday!!

Sochin · « **Reply #33 on:** October 22, 2004, 12:48:53 pm »

Please please please please please post some pics, I promiss I wont shoot at you on uniyt oh go on you know you want to.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #34 on:** October 22, 2004, 01:58:42 pm »

COOL !! This should be good !! Looking forward to it !

markyd · « **Reply #35 on:** October 22, 2004, 04:08:56 pm »

Im not a big fan of showing progress piccies... I swear you will see the finished article on sunday... the criticism can begin

**edit**

Now you will see it when its finished

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #36 on:** October 23, 2004, 09:21:22 am »

Don't know so much about the criticism part ... but we await your completed project.

thanks

Red_Green · « **Reply #37 on:** October 23, 2004, 08:56:54 pm »

Quote from: J. Carney on October 12, 2004, 08:27:53 pm

That is the best looking post-TNG work to come out in a long time...

Worthy to bear the name, without a doubt.

This looks exactly like LordBiles Scorpian with texture alterations. Another design rip off

J. Carney · « **Reply #38 on:** October 23, 2004, 09:07:19 pm »

Quote from: reaper on October 23, 2004, 08:56:54 pm

Quote from: J. Carney on October 12, 2004, 08:27:53 pm
That is the best looking post-TNG work to come out in a long time...

Worthy to bear the name, without a doubt.

This looks exactly like LordBiles Scorpian with texture alterations. Another design rip off

Never seen the ship you are refering to before...

Post it and I'm sure that credit will be given if it is due. People around here don't 'rip off' designs.

Mackie · « **Reply #39 on:** October 23, 2004, 09:34:09 pm »

Quote from: reaper on October 23, 2004, 08:56:54 pm

Quote from: J. Carney on October 12, 2004, 08:27:53 pm
That is the best looking post-TNG work to come out in a long time...

Worthy to bear the name, without a doubt.

This looks exactly like LordBiles Scorpian with texture alterations. Another design rip off

dont be such an arse, Atolm aka Azel has a few designs similar to this... but ill give you that, the resemblence is something that can be seen. going by your "logic" every fed ship is a rip off of the other.

Azel · « **Reply #40 on:** October 23, 2004, 09:49:18 pm »

Quote from: reaper on October 23, 2004, 08:56:54 pm

Quote from: J. Carney on October 12, 2004, 08:27:53 pm
That is the best looking post-TNG work to come out in a long time...

Worthy to bear the name, without a doubt.

This looks exactly like LordBiles Scorpian with texture alterations. Another design rip off

I ran a search on the net to find this "scorpion"
Did you mean this???

If you are, then you are totally incorrect...As you can see the designs are very very different...the dorsal view seems to have a superficial resemblence
but thats about it...the similarity is inalogous to a galaxy to a connie...similar arrangement very different ship

So I would think that you are mistaken mate

Starforce2 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 24, 2004, 08:06:38 am »

Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on October 24, 2004, 07:46:37 am

heheheh ... another negative Karma thingy eh !! hehehe must have struck a nerve some where !!

some gutless coward has been giving me a - karma every day for, well, the last 25 or so..and I know it's the same person cuz it only goes up one a day...and I haven't flammed that many ships lately...
Oh well, always gotta have one abusing the Karma system...

Azel · « **Reply #42 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:31:19 am »

Hey any updates MarkyD???

J. Carney · « **Reply #43 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:33:13 am »

Quote from: Starforce2 on October 24, 2004, 08:06:38 am

Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on October 24, 2004, 07:46:37 am
heheheh ... another negative Karma thingy eh !! hehehe must have struck a nerve some where !!

some gutless coward has been giving me a - karma every day for, well, the last 25 or so..and I know it's the same person cuz it only goes up one a day...and I haven't flammed that many ships lately...
Oh well, always gotta have one abusing the Karma system...

Might not be one person you know...

I'm retty sure that I got mine from a diverse group of Liberals.

Azel · « **Reply #44 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:50:57 am »

Quote from: Furyofaseraph on October 24, 2004, 10:41:58 am

Of all the threads, THIS one had to become a flame war?
Is this how you want to honor Mr. Reeves?

teh, have fun.

Aye lets just keep this on target ok mates

I really appriciate the statements...but lets not forget the man who we are honouring

"they can be a great people, if they want to be", Jor-El

Update???

dogfighter · « **Reply #45 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:57:43 am »

i loike the way the bridge is connected to the hull. the organic shape is impressive. that ship is definitly worth the name of a hero.

any plans for a 3d model?

J. Carney · « **Reply #46 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:58:31 am »

Quote from: Azel on October 24, 2004, 10:50:57 am

Update???

That's the $64,000 question, right there...

Come on... *begins chanting* pics, pics, pics, pics...

markyd · « **Reply #47 on:** October 24, 2004, 01:32:01 pm »

Mesh finished yesterday... texturing begins tommorow... No piccies til its done though.. in the meantime my commodore class will be finished within the hour!

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #48 on:** October 24, 2004, 01:35:57 pm »

heheh

you really know how to keep up the suspense there bud !!

markyd · « **Reply #49 on:** October 24, 2004, 02:05:19 pm »

I like it that way.. keeps the topic going.. open for suggestions i.e additions you would like to see added or changes made!

Please feel free to hit the -karma

for being a pain in the butt

Or hit the +karma for azel as this is for a good cause!

markyd · « **Reply #50 on:** October 24, 2004, 04:06:58 pm »

Yep he has... His designs are next to none... I only hope I can do the drwings justice.... and more to the point, do the memory or christopher reeve justice

** oh and to comment that this design is a rip off was bang out of order by he way! It is almost impossible to create an original feddy ship as most concepts have been done already **

Bad boy who ever started that

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #51 on:** October 24, 2004, 05:31:05 pm »

Thats about the finest TNG fed I have seen. Excellent design and drawing! Cant wait to see markyds model...

Azel · « **Reply #52 on:** October 24, 2004, 05:46:19 pm »

Thanks

markyd · « **Reply #53 on:** October 24, 2004, 07:23:10 pm »

Ok Commodore class finished... I will start texturing the reeve next!!

Red_Green · « **Reply #54 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:01:28 pm »

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on October 23, 2004, 11:59:47 pm

Reaper stop trying to cause trouble the 2 ships look nothing like each other the only thing that is even remotly similar between the 2 ships is the saucer shape "shape" been they key word look at the configuration of the ship the pylons come from diffrent parts the nacelles are diffrent infact the whole thing is diffrent so i suggest you buy some glasses and use what you have between the ears and i dont mean cobwebs

I stand by my opinion, very similar only slight alterations. Yes all feds are deriatives of previous feds but this is too similar to LB's Scorpian not to credit him. Azel acts like he had to search to find it, like he hadn't seen it before. That is a crock. LB's Scorpian is well know to anyone in the forum for over 3 years as Azel has been. LB did 2 versions of it and I believe it was entered in Taldren's SFC3 model contest.

Mackie · « **Reply #55 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:20:16 pm »

even if so...
fire was independantly reinvented a few times .
wheel was in independantly reinvented least twice.
you know i f*cking ripped off scorpion in one of my kitbashes? OMG FUX OMFG

http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=163348217.0;id=751;image
Not.

J. Carney · « **Reply #56 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:47:33 pm »

Mackie...

Just let the guy

his little heart out.

Azel's word is good enough for the rest of us.

Reaper:

Seeing as how LB has an account and gets around here more than occasionally, I would think that he would have spoken up if he felt plagerized in any way.

Mackie · « **Reply #57 on:** October 24, 2004, 11:06:10 pm »

GOOD TUS MACKIE LIKE, MACKIE GIVE TUS COOKIE
*goes back to teh cave*

Azel · « **Reply #58 on:** October 24, 2004, 11:13:16 pm »

Quote from: reaper on October 24, 2004, 10:01:28 pm

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on October 23, 2004, 11:59:47 pm
Reaper stop trying to cause trouble the 2 ships look nothing like each other the only thing that is even remotly similar between the 2 ships is the saucer shape "shape" been they key word look at the configuration of the ship the pylons come from diffrent parts the nacelles are diffrent infact the whole thing is diffrent so i suggest you buy some glasses and use what you have between the ears and i dont mean cobwebs

I stand by my opinion, very similar only slight alterations. Yes all feds are deriatives of previous feds but this is too similar to LB's Scorpian not to credit him. Azel acts like he had to search to find it, like he hadn't seen it before. That is a crock. LB's Scorpian is well know to anyone in the forum for over 3 years as Azel has been. LB did 2 versions of it and I believe it was entered in Taldren's SFC3 model contest.

ok mate....believe what you wish...
I thought a while back you and I established/settled a "misunderstanding" between you and I in another thread:
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,46.0.html
I guess I was wrong...I guess there still exists one
A shame really...I hate to think that Egos can ruin a thread and a community
I will not be baited

Reverend · « **Reply #59 on:** October 24, 2004, 11:36:53 pm »

Hey Reaper.... nice of you to post... there had better be a good reason for this.

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Wicked Zombie · « **Reply #60 on:** October 24, 2004, 11:53:17 pm »

I should point out that LB only built/textured the Scorpion, he didn't design it. The design itself was by Raven Night, who is on good terms with Atolm. They even collaborated once or twice on a few design projects in the past. If Raven or LB felt their work was plagiarized, they are easily capable of defending themselves without any overzealous outside help.

It is incredibly possible to make a scratch built design and have it resemble a preexisting one. I've done it once or twice and later saw another ship with striking similarities. With so many people tampering around with ship designs all the time, I'd be surprised if something didn't resemble another ship in some way.

Atolm doesn't keep tabs on all the designs that are tossed around and believe it or not, there are people who haven't heard of the Scorpion. So the ship has a vague similarity to the Scorpion, yet both have totally different part arrangements and details? I study ship design almost religiously (ironic since I'm not the religious type) and the Heroic never struck me as resembling anything else, especially the Scorpion. If one wants to pick a fight about rip-offs, at least make it about two ships that are more obviously similar and not ships that take a lot of explaining and mapping out to define the duplication. Of course, I'm betting this isn't about rip-offs so much as it is about just wanting a reason to complain.

I never saw any reason in attacking anyone for doing something that has absolutely nothing at all to do with me. Of course, not everyone has learned to mind their own business...

Reverend · « **Reply #61 on:** October 24, 2004, 11:58:33 pm »

For the learning disabled, including Reaper himself.... I posted my own viewing of the log-in nature of "Reaper", using our fine forum tools.
It says the owner is Red_Green, or that which he logs himself in as.
It is apparent that one is able to change HOW you appear, but not HOW you log on.

Who here can tell me if this is true or not?

NOOOOWWW, this wouldn't be the same Red_Green, who builds Hydrans, threatens to 'leave the forums' because 'no one give him any thanks'? The Red_Green I know is a great mesher, modeller, and texturer, and wouldn't treat anyone the same way he claims to be treated. The same Red_Green I know is supposed to be representing 9th Fleet, or 11th, and would deface said organizations by such behavior.
Is this a typo, does the forums have another 'red_green'? It was in lowercases.
There is none else more pitiful and diseased than a traitor. Abandonment isn't the same, at least one made a DISTINCTION.
Red_Green, say it isn't so, I believe in you.... but I have been Atolm's #1 fan for 3.1 years, and can't tolerate anyone defaming such a gentle and intelligent creature, not even that spineless cesspool Harry... Berman's pet...you know what Im talking about too, big shot. Your seat wont always be so high, and we'll be waiting here when it isn't.

Good call WZ, good to see another of my heroes here.

Operators are standing by for apologies due, fool(s).

Starforce2 · « **Reply #62 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:07:27 am »

Also, last I checked, the scorpion was owned by nightsoft, and nightsoft allows a wide range of uses for their stuff, an open door policy, shall we say. This basicly means that it is OK to"rip off" the design, alter it slightly, use it as inspiration, whatever. I think it needs to be atleast 65% different from the original to be exempt from being automaticly owned by nightsoft and needing a disclaimer...or something like that. So, hypotheticly speaking, even if atolm had based this on the scorpion...there wouldn't be anything wrong with it. And there is certainly 65% difference betweent he scorpion and the Reeves so he's not stealing. Your arguement is a mute point, so please...STFU.

Red_Green · « **Reply #63 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:58:38 am »

Quote from: Lord Schtupp on October 25, 2004, 03:12:51 am

I can see easily how Azel evolved this design based on certain design features found in his earlier works. His designs usually feature curved warp pylons and elliptical sectioned hulls for example. In contrast, Ravens work favors straight (front view) warp pylons and angular sectioned hulls. In other words, they are about as similar as a Spitfire is to a JU-87 Stuka. In my opinion this is a much sleeker, more refined design than the scorpion. The front and side views are completely different, and only the top view bears a general resemblence to the scorpion. Besides, any statement that says Azel ripped off a design flies in the face of three years of original work that he's posted in the various SFC forums.

Well I was surprised that no one saw a similarity to the Scorpian until I brought it up. Oh And as someone mistakemly pointed out. I have no affiliation rith 9th fleet or 11th fleet or any fleets for that matter. I find it odd how offended everyone is by my post as I people have never failed to point out when anything I did resembled a past work. I suggest you all got some thicker skin.

Red_Green · « **Reply #64 on:** October 25, 2004, 01:04:12 pm »

Quote from: Tus on October 24, 2004, 10:59:59 pm

My friend, i would be careful what you sling around because what you may be tossing at atolm might come back to bite you in the arse...

OK, from my last thread i pointed out 4 very important differences between the designs, i will continue by pointing out some more....

1) the naccel struts on the reeve flow directly from what could be precieved as the saucer section on the ship. this means that all hull lines that are present on the saucer, flow directly to the struts. this is visible in both the top and side views of the reeve. the scorpion on the other hand has struts which do not flow to the saucer but instead protrude from it as a seperate part.

2) the reeve has a neck to connect the saucer to the secondary hull, the scorpion doesn't even have a secondary hull besides the "akira" buldge on the bottom of the saucer (btw if i go by your logic, then the scorpion shares far to many similarities w/ the akira, so it should be credited to show that)

3) The part that could be called the sacuer on both the Reeve and the Scorpion are vastly different. the Reeve has what could be called and egg shaped saucer if the struts weren't attached. It also has a very visible and traditional bridge section. on the other hand, the scorpion has a saucer design is vastly different, considering that it is snub nosed and contains more straight sides than the Reeve. Not to mention the fact that the scorpion's saucer section would be nearly twice the size of the reeve if they were scaled the same.

If you wish for me to go on will. I have shown several examples of the differences between the the Reeve and the Scorpion, demonstrating their vastly different designs. Presently all you have told us is that you "stand by your opinion" which is "This looks exactly like LordBiles Scorpian with texture alterations. Another design rip off" and have given us nothing of which to base your opionion off of. All i can assume based off of that is that your vision is in a state of decay and you can no longer distinguish differences betwen these two designs, you are totaly ignorant of the features that both designs have and are just posting random nonsense attempting to cause a problem in this community, or you actually do see similarities so strong that they compel you to post that remark. But that is as far as i can go because i can not nor will i learn to read minds. I would suggest that you start backing up your opionions, because so far based on your two posts it would appear that you are currently attempting create a conflict with atolm/azel and attempting to tarnish his reputation. So far all you have currently done is piss me off as well as a few other people on this forum. I would suggest you refrain from posting until you have somthing intelligent to say backing your opinion, otherwise i would do what i would do, go to another thread and ignore the design all together.

Very Respectfully,

Robert

Ok well want I mean is it looks as if this ship was based off of the Scorpian or is a refit of it. As such I think the original designer deserved a mention.

Red_Green · « **Reply #65 on:** October 25, 2004, 01:54:21 pm »

Quote from: Lord Schtupp on October 25, 2004, 01:12:14 pm

Quote
Well I was surprised that no one saw a similarity to the Scorpian until I brought it up. Oh And as someone mistakemly pointed out. I have no affiliation rith 9th fleet or 11th fleet or any fleets for that matter. I find it odd how offended everyone is by my post as I people have never failed to point out when anything I did resembled a past work. I suggest you all got some thicker skin.

Yes it is odd that people are offended when some worm accuses someone that has contributed 3+years of original work to the community of ripping off an obviously inferior design. I just dont get it. I also dont get why suddenly I would get a negative karma point for clearly stating what differences there are between the two. It must be one of those thin skinned adolescent worms that get jerked off too much.

Oh wait - I just realized that worms don't have eyes - thats why they cant see the difference between the two designs.

I recall you wonce teeling me to get thicker skin. So now the shoe is on the other foot. Yes I did think the design was being ripped off- thats what I said and since then I have been diagnosed as having a learning disability, called a worm and told I need glasses. If you could look unbiased at the 2 designs without your emotional attaachment to Azel. The 2 are very close and no the Scorpian is not inferior. In fact it li=ooks more Fed than Azels due to his unique texturing he added in.

1 little negative karma boo hoo LS My opinion of you has lowered now that I see you can't take it.

J. Carney · « **Reply #66 on:** October 25, 2004, 04:48:48 pm »

Quote from: Tus on October 25, 2004, 02:23:35 pm

Quote from: reaper on October 25, 2004, 01:04:12 pm
Ok well want I mean is it looks as if this ship was based off of the Scorpian or is a refit of it. As such I think the original designer deserved a mention.

Would you mind explaining to me where you draw your conclusions from? I can only guess as to how you have based them, and since i have not mind reading abilities i can't confirm anything....

Don't think that mind reading abilities will do you any good in this situation, man...

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #67 on:** October 25, 2004, 04:56:40 pm »

I don't suppose we could let this go and let this model get done in peace now .. ??

particularly due to the nature of its dedicatory endorsement...

thanks

-LB- · « **Reply #68 on:** October 25, 2004, 06:05:22 pm »

I hope no one minds if I step in here......

I do Not believe this ship design to be a rip-off at all, in fact I would prefer to think of it as an evolutionary step in the ongoing design process of Fed ships. I could very well see this as being the next step or 2 after the scorpion design, because when Raven and I did this project, it was to be the next step in the evolution of Feds after the Prometheus style ships (without seperation). I commend the designer of this ship, VERY NICE INDEED. But a rip-off? I think not!!

I love this layout, reminds a little of the Scorpion, but then again, the Galaxy reminds me of the Connie. So whats the big deal?

By the way, Who have I offended? My karma is big time in the negs......

J. Carney · « **Reply #69 on:** October 25, 2004, 06:07:05 pm »

Quote from: -LB- on October 25, 2004, 06:05:22 pm

By the way, Who have I offended? My karma is big time in the negs......

One more towards working your way back to the + side, LB.

Red_Green · « **Reply #70 on:** October 25, 2004, 06:39:09 pm »

Quote from: -LB- on October 25, 2004, 06:05:22 pm

I hope no one minds if I step in here......

I do Not believe this ship design to be a rip-off at all, in fact I would prefer to think of it as an evolutionary step in the ongoing design process of Fed ships. I could very well see this as being the next step or 2 after the scorpion design, because when Raven and I did this project, it was to be the next step in the evolution of Feds after the Prometheus style ships (without seperation). I commend the designer of this ship, VERY NICE INDEED. But a rip-off? I think not!!

I love this layout, reminds a little of the Scorpion, but then again, the Galaxy reminds me of the Connie. So whats the big deal?

By the way, Who have I offended? My karma is big time in the negs......

OK LB you get the final word but I am not apologixes to anyone here fro my comments especially after being called names. Perhaps I owe some people for diagnoses all my disorders.

Red_Green · « **Reply #71 on:** October 25, 2004, 06:42:09 pm »

I screwed that quote up above by mistake. You know LS I contributed stuff here for 3 years as well. Ships, textures, scenery, planet mods and after I have 1 brain cramp I get -20 karma and only plus 8. Goes to show how negative this forum is.

Starforce2 · « **Reply #72 on:** October 25, 2004, 06:57:00 pm »

Well, for the record, I have a learning disability myself. ADHD and Tourettes syndrome too. I gave you a negative karma for using your handicap (or however you wish to refer to it) as an excuse...now THAT is lame.

will someone PLEASE hurry up and post a wip or something before this thread goes completley down the crapper...

Red_Green · « **Reply #73 on:** October 25, 2004, 07:35:04 pm »

Quote from: Starforce2 on October 25, 2004, 06:57:00 pm

Well, for the record, I have a learning disability myself. ADHD and Tourettes syndrome too. I gave you a negative karma for using your handicap (or however you wish to refer to it) as an excuse...now THAT is lame.

will someone PLEASE hurry up and post a wip or something before this thread goes completley down the crapper...

I didn't make an excuse I didnt apologize and I don't have a learning disability. I was referencey that Reverend said I did but he is not qualified to diagnose. I gave you a neg ative Karma SF for saying you gave me one.

Red_Green · « **Reply #74 on:** October 25, 2004, 07:39:02 pm »

Oh and I have done ships that weree based off previous ones like Lances' Bradbury but I mentioned it. People have pointed out any thing I did that resembled anyone eles and no one flamed there opinin. Why does Azel have a hands off policy in this forum?

Red_Green · « **Reply #75 on:** October 25, 2004, 07:51:25 pm »

Screw evryone here- I made A comment about Azels ship and am asked to apologize after being flamed by 3-4 people. I am left with no space to apologize and now SF2 says the learning disablity I don't have is no excuse. I never apologized nor do I intent to. I released over 50 ships to this forum and I need an excuse and an apology now? F off all of ya. When I made designs based off of Hobbes Diligent I got flamed and no one flamed the people that commented on it.

GotAFarmYet? · « **Reply #76 on:** October 25, 2004, 09:10:36 pm »

Some moderator lock this thread it nolonger serves the purpose or the sprit that it was started with.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #77 on:** October 25, 2004, 09:55:54 pm »

Ya know guys .. I'm just a crusty ol' fart with some really old fashion idea (hence the name Ol Buzzard fits like a glove)... but ya know... If we agree (most everyone that is) .. that this is a good idea and we want this thing done .. I say we petition the management here to simply clean up the thread .. get rid of ALL of the negative statements .. (mine too) .. and get this done RIGHT!

Good night alive !!! With all of this technology at our disposal ... surely we can clean this mess up and do the job RIGHT ... just like it was supposed to be !!

What-do-ya-say guys .... You with this old man on this one?

lets turn this puppy around .. COME ON GUYS !! I KNOW WE CAN DO IT !!

Azel · « **Reply #78 on:** October 25, 2004, 09:58:39 pm »

I await MarkyD's model .

aand I agree Oldman

Starforce2 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 25, 2004, 10:52:36 pm »

Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on October 25, 2004, 09:55:54 pm

Ya know guys .. I'm just a crusty ol' fart with some really old fashion idea (hence the name Ol Buzzard fits like a glove)... but ya know... If we agree (most everyone that is) .. that this is a good idea and we want this thing done .. I say we petition the management here to simply clean up the thread .. get rid of ALL of the negative statements .. (mine too) .. and get this done RIGHT!

Good night alive !!! With all of this technology at our disposal ... surely we can clean this mess up and do the job RIGHT ... just like it was supposed to be !!

What-do-ya-say guys .... You with this old man on this one?

lets turn this puppy around .. COME ON GUYS !! I KNOW WE CAN DO IT !!

sounds like a plan. Are we allowed to delete our own posts? perhaps we don't need the admins...

Reverend · « **Reply #80 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:42:29 pm »

Quote from: Starforce2 on October 25, 2004, 10:52:36 pm

Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on October 25, 2004, 09:55:54 pm
Ya know guys .. I'm just a crusty ol' fart with some really old fashion idea (hence the name Ol Buzzard fits like a glove)... but ya know... If we agree (most everyone that is) .. that this is a good idea and we want this thing done .. I say we petition the management here to simply clean up the thread .. get rid of ALL of the negative statements .. (mine too) .. and get this done RIGHT!

Good night alive !!! With all of this technology at our disposal ... surely we can clean this mess up and do the job RIGHT ... just like it was supposed to be !!

What-do-ya-say guys .... You with this old man on this one?

lets turn this puppy around .. COME ON GUYS !! I KNOW WE CAN DO IT !!

sounds like a plan. Are we allowed to delete our own posts? perhaps we don't need the admins...

Yet. I just deleted a sizable suitable response... but it seems I received a unspoken order from a superior.... actually, more than one superior; several.
Gee, no matter how many circles I try to get it, I'm still a peon!

So, about that ship... heh... heh.... ol' Christopher Reeves, what a guy...

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #81 on:** October 26, 2004, 12:42:48 am »

Well for my part I owe reaper an apology, sorry dude. I guess I was caught on a thin skinned day...

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #82 on:** October 26, 2004, 05:56:40 am »

Alright, i just deleted my post in good faith.

markyd · « **Reply #83 on:** October 26, 2004, 06:48:19 am »

Whrn I do finish the model I shall not post it in this particular thread

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #84 on:** October 26, 2004, 07:42:34 am »

Good to see everyone pitching in and turing this around ... I've done the same.. I'm at work right now..... soooo if I missed one don't panic .. I'll try to pop in when we can and fix it right away!

Let's keep this going .. IT CAN BE DONE !! We just got to want to bad enough !!

AZEL ... you keep right on designing those ships sir !!

Markyd.. she's all yours to finish !!

Thanks for the cooperation of EVERYONE !!

ATTENTION ON DECK !!

<S>

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #85 on:** October 26, 2004, 11:27:58 am »

Yea when you think about Chris Reeves and the problems he went thru, smiling like a total champion, really makes these other problems and arguments shrink to total insignificance.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #86 on:** October 26, 2004, 11:44:53 am »

Quote from: Lord Schtupp on October 26, 2004, 11:27:58 am

Yea when you think about Chris Reeves and the problems he went thru, smiling like a total champion, really makes these other problems and arguments shrink to total insignificance.

100% TOTALLY .. RIGHT ON THE MARK sir ... !!!

Azel · « **Reply #87 on:** October 26, 2004, 12:04:26 pm »

great to see this project back on track with the proper spirit

I commend you all

Red_Green · « **Reply #88 on:** October 26, 2004, 09:12:15 pm »

Sorry for my out of hand accussation Azel. I too can delete my posts if you would like. Though I prefer to leave as an example of how big an arse I can be at times.

It saddens me that I stooped to this level and if it helps I can change my handle to something more appropriate like, troll. Unfortunately I am impulsive to a fault at times. I think my spewing my mouth off was out of jealousy for all the attention your work recieves.

Too be honest I don't like deleting posts as if nothing happened because ST is an idealist program followed by idealist fans. In real life, behavior like I exibited usually does not recieve a second chance and I don't expect one.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #89 on:** October 26, 2004, 09:21:36 pm »

Quote from: reaper on October 26, 2004, 09:12:15 pm

Sorry for my out of hand accussation Azel. I too can delete my posts if you would like. Though I prefer to leave as an example of how big an arse I can be at times. It saddens me that I stooped to this level and if it helps I can change my handle to something more appropriate like, troll. Unfortunately I am impulsive to a fault at times. I think my spewing my mouth off was out of jealousy for all the attention your work recieves.

Too be honest I don't like deleting posts as if nothing happened because ST is an idealist program followed by idealist fans. In real life, behavior like I exibited usually does not recieve a second chance and I don't expect one.

+1 Karma

J. Carney · « **Reply #90 on:** October 26, 2004, 09:22:59 pm »

+1 more.

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #91 on:** October 26, 2004, 09:39:37 pm »

Quote from: reaper on October 26, 2004, 09:12:15 pm

Unfortunately I am impulsive to a fault at times.

Boy do I relate. Same here

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #92 on:** October 26, 2004, 11:51:49 pm »

Quote from: J. Carney on October 26, 2004, 09:22:59 pm

+1 more.

ditto ... forgiven !!

It's moments like this that a community can feel good about things ...

thanks guys ( I knew you could do it !! )

Sochin · « **Reply #93 on:** October 29, 2004, 02:13:28 pm »

Bump for news.

markyd · « **Reply #94 on:** October 29, 2004, 02:46:57 pm »

read help topic im having problems

Azel · « **Reply #95 on:** October 29, 2004, 08:08:22 pm »

Crap

markyd · « **Reply #96 on:** October 30, 2004, 02:46:20 am »

You said it mate... I'm not giving up though... In the meantime Im workig on the defiant looking thing on my lappy!!

(the one you and buzz came up with mesh is almost done screnies posted!)

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #97 on:** October 30, 2004, 09:33:30 am »

best of luck to ya getting the problem solved .. I know PC's .. while a good thing .. can also be a big pain in the tail feathers !!

Azel · « **Reply #98 on:** October 30, 2004, 11:54:10 am »

Ok mate..I still hope for the Reeve's resurrection

Azel · « **Reply #99 on:** November 01, 2004, 02:02:51 pm »

Back to Page one

markyd · « **Reply #100 on:** November 01, 2004, 02:08:09 pm »

Lost gone bye bye....

I will start this again though..... just need some time to take a run up.... after getting it 70% done and showing no piccies... its been a big kick in the butt for me... so im gonna finish the vigilant, then help rage with some pirate models... then Im gonna restart the reeve...

Azel · « **Reply #101 on:** November 01, 2004, 02:21:53 pm »

Aye ...but she's gotta get done...too much has been held against her, to not see this through

markyd · « **Reply #102 on:** November 01, 2004, 02:43:29 pm »

Rest assured this bird will fly

Starforce2 · « **Reply #103 on:** November 02, 2004, 09:57:32 am »

hope it's not another Malek curse...lol

Azel · « **Reply #104 on:** November 24, 2004, 04:14:51 pm »

Bump for news and/or info...please

markyd · « **Reply #105 on:** November 24, 2004, 08:00:46 pm »

Vigilant then this

Red_Green · « **Reply #106 on:** November 26, 2004, 02:52:28 pm »

Quote from: Starforce2 on November 02, 2004, 09:57:32 am

hope it's not another Malek curse...lol

Well if a ship is cursed because it gets delayed in textured or never gets textured. Then I have about 20 cursed ships on my hard drive.

Azel · « **Reply #107 on:** December 10, 2004, 12:54:21 pm »

Quote from: S31-MarkyD on November 24, 2004, 08:00:46 pm

Vigilant then this

Bump???

markyd · « **Reply #108 on:** December 10, 2004, 10:47:29 pm »

rofl.. its coming dude...

Azel · « **Reply #109 on:** December 11, 2004, 07:42:25 am »

markyd · « **Reply #110 on:** December 11, 2004, 09:43:08 am »

Do not worry people... she is comming.. Ive finished the saucer area and the texture mapping

Azel · « **Reply #111 on:** December 11, 2004, 05:26:08 pm »

Quote from: S31-MarkyD on December 11, 2004, 09:43:08 am

Do not worry people... she is comming.. Ive finished the saucer area and the texture mapping

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