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TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/26/04
« on: October 31, 2004, 11:46:08 am »
OK, started a new one so y'all can find the relevant pics easier. ;D It's been a couple of months since I did anything on this, and I started out this time re=working the saucer. Here's a couple of pics of that...notice, I already fixed the nacelles, still need to re-work thw pylons and try to refine the 2ndary shape. When I start texturing her, I probably won't post wip pics...if there's something about the textures you don't like, then change 'em after d/ling. ::)

Here's a couple of pics...
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2004, 12:59:50 pm »
your work is improving Sandman ..  what ever you do don't give up !!  I know ya can do it !

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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2004, 01:04:09 pm »
I love it... dont think mutch of the colour scheme though  :D

Good work Bud...  ;)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2004, 04:02:34 pm »
Hmmm, nice.
 
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2004, 12:07:52 am »
Oh I get it: Female personnel in the primary hull (pink); male personnel in the secondary hull (blu). Kirk wouldnt like that arrangement ;D

Looks like its gonna be a nice ship Sman, aesthetically speaking.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2004, 06:22:45 am »
Sandman keep up the excelent work the model looks briliant.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2004, 08:07:04 am »
Personally, I'm glad to see him back on the job...

GO FOR IT BUBBA !!!
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2004, 10:30:37 am »
THX!! ;D
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2004, 11:22:11 am »
i have a question. how do you do the inset part of the saucer? i have been trying to figure that out for a while now
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2004, 11:27:03 am »
Splines...on this version, I made a spline shape, then used SHAPEMERGE...then negative extrude. :)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2004, 11:32:53 am »
ok i think i got ya there ill have to try that when i get home
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2004, 01:16:08 pm »
OK, just a quickie...when I did the pylons the 1st time, I did 'em backwards...flipped 'em and repositioned 'em and...
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2004, 01:20:31 pm »
 :notworthy: Great stuff Bud.... what does the poly count stand at??
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2004, 01:23:51 pm »
looks good besides a few smoothing errors on the saucer, but i figure you'll get around to fixing those eventually :).  keep up the good work
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2004, 01:25:43 pm »
Thanx, and right now she's 6440 polies...not too bad, and I hope to reduce that as I go. ;)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2004, 03:16:14 pm »
Dang that looks great.Good to see ya back at it.This time pace yourself,no more mad headaches.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2004, 09:56:36 am »
Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on October 31, 2004, 12:59:50 pm
your work is improving Sandman ..  what ever you do don't give up !!  I know ya can do it !



I'll second that.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2004, 11:45:26 am »
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Splines...on this version, I made a spline shape, then used SHAPEMERGE...then negative extrude.

i went to try this last night and could not get it to work any chance you could do a little step by step write up for me to make sure i am doing it right?

TIA

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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2004, 01:18:04 pm »
You could also try exruding or beveling the faces?  ;)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2004, 02:09:36 pm »
beveling anything locks up max on me and i havent had any luck extruding faces either
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2004, 09:22:50 pm »
Better yet, I'll send ya the tut I found on shapemerge. ;D

Thx for the support guys. ;D :rwoot:
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2004, 08:44:48 am »
cool thanks Sandman send it to jspeckma@sarcom.com i apreciate the help
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2004, 09:00:18 am »
Sandman what would be the chance of getting that tutorial sent to fatbloke146@hotmail.com, a few people I know would find it a great help.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2004, 09:52:21 pm »
Just a quick note...I've started the texturing, and been in contact with Buzz...as I stated before, I won't be showing the WIP work on the texturing...too many different views and opinions, threw me for loop last time. :P Slow going at the moment, as once again I'm fighting pneumonia...I love having emphysema, getting sick all the time, Great stuff. ::) :'( Oh well, this is kinda theraputic, as long as I don't get too stressed about it, lol. ;D

Anyway, after I get approval regarding the saucer textures, I'll post pics. ;)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2004, 06:50:43 am »
Bump for front page and how are you feeling sandman.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2004, 07:27:42 am »
sandman, are you using a  spline tut?  I have a very basic one for saucers, but  not for anything else.
if any of the tuts are compatable with max3 send them to starforce2@bcfiles.com wtf I  might as well give  ona  shot.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2004, 10:23:39 pm »
I'm feeling good, thx for asking. ;D Friday was my last day off until next Friday, so not much online time, sorry for delay in getting the tut out...sending right after this. :P

SF2...yeah it's a spline tut...well shapemerge, but you use splines with it. ;D Sending a tut your way also. ;)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2004, 08:02:45 am »
thanks for the tut my friend i know it will be of great use to me to learn more
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2004, 08:43:14 am »
Same hear thankyou very much
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2004, 10:54:13 am »
NP guys...you can also get a good video tut on splines at http://www.simplymax.com...you have to join, and I think the tut is like 3 dollars or something, but it's 45 minutes long and explains a lot. ;D
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2004, 11:51:35 am »
OK, I said no pics of texturing til done, but for some reason when I send these to Buzz and Azel I get a delivery failure message, so...

please keep suggestions realistic. ;) These still need some tweaking, this kis just to get an idea for placement.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2004, 12:56:49 pm »
I am partial to registry on one side mane on the other :)
like : USS Titan(space) NCC-bla bla bla bla....lol
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2004, 01:52:23 pm »
Also Id say Bin the stroke on the text... I dont really like the red outline... The textures though look good... they will really come out when you start adding detail bud! Great work... glad your posting WIP!! ;D
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2004, 02:30:57 pm »
I agree with both Markyd and Azel ...

BTW....  I dont what happened to the DL to my addy ..  my son just tried to send some picts last night too ..  same problem. 


good work Sandman .....  keep 'er comming !
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2004, 03:24:09 pm »
Quote from: MarkyD on November 12, 2004, 01:52:23 pm
Also Id say Bin the stroke on the text...
Say who? :P
You mean get rid of, or alter?

Thanx for advice...and for you PS users, any walkthrus you can do...I'm trying to get this right. :-\
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2004, 03:27:49 pm »
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2004, 08:41:48 pm »
OK, here's a little more. Redid the reg as per Azels suggestion and left off the stroke as per MarkyDs suggestion. ;D

I'm having a slight problem with PS right now...it keeps crashing on me. :banghead: When it does, I lose a lot of work...even saving the file doesn't really help, cause it gets corrupted. :banghead: :banghead: I think it's because I'm doing 1024x1024 textures, and my machine can't handle them...so, I'm gonna convert to 512x512 and see if that helps. :skeptic:

I know, I know, some of you laugh at the "curse" business, but it seems like this is going the way of the Melak (crosses fingers, rubs rabbits foot, strokes four-leaf clover ;D). I'm determined to get this done, so don't worry. ;)

Anyway, here's the pics...
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2004, 09:00:44 pm »
Looks good!

Small note:

Smaller windows + More windows = Greater sense of scale  ;)

Am liking her a lot, good work!  8)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2004, 03:20:34 am »
Looks mutch better ^what ryker said also a good point  ;)
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2004, 07:29:24 am »
aye...and reduce the scale of the name/registry by about 25%
then you got it :)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2004, 12:02:26 pm »
OK, added more windows, reduced their size, reduced the reg size. Started on the bridge module...disregard the horizontal lines on the bridge modul;e top, they're just for placement right now. :P
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2004, 11:49:46 pm »
Believe it or not, I wasn't able to do more work on this as I got a damn migraine again...but, not from this. 3 kids with too many days off from school  ;D (Veterans Day holiday, thurs., fri., sat., sun. :P). Anyway, I should be able to do more tomorrow, finally got rid of the damn headache. :woot:
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2004, 12:16:20 am »
Looks great but the front stripe in the trench is off. Glad to hear your headache is better.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2004, 12:46:59 am »
looks good bud.   May i suggest when you work with shapes and stuff like you are, use the pen tool and make vector maskes.  the shapes will be alot smoother that way :)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2004, 03:29:55 am »
Yep mutch better... also one more thing if I may



could get rid of these crinkles if you weld the vertices together after you made the cut out of the hull....  ;)

Great work dude keep it up!
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2004, 10:50:48 am »
Quote from: Tus on November 14, 2004, 12:46:59 am
looks good bud.   May i suggest when you work with shapes and stuff like you are, use the pen tool and make vector maskes.  the shapes will be alot smoother that way :)
I've tried that, but then it comes out blocky. Have any tuts? :)
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2004, 01:00:51 am »
not really, though if you mess w/ the points with the pen tool you can make the shapes curvy (its on of the tools for the pen, it looks like a this ^ ) it will let you select points and make the line curvie... hope that help some
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2004, 05:19:23 pm »
Sorry, been hectic in RL. :P

Thx for the explanation Tus...I'll give that shot. :thumbsup:
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2004, 05:26:54 pm »
Aye its cool mate...I have been sick for the last4 days...so I can relate...lol
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2004, 02:50:27 am »
Quote from: Azel on November 17, 2004, 05:26:54 pm
Aye its cool mate...I have been sick for the last4 days...so I can relate...lol

Feel better Azel.
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2004, 02:34:09 pm »
Just a quickie...been working on finishing the saucer, should have more pics soon, but kindaslow going as RL job is in retail and this season is BUSY!! ;D
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« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2004, 04:24:57 pm »
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2004, 04:49:39 pm »
OK, here's a few more pics...saucer's almost done, then on to the hull hopefully...remember, I got this far before and then...blooey! ;D And yes, I know some of the stuff is off center...I'll fix that during the final tweaking...just trying to get stuff in place right now. :P

Anyway, here ya go...
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/24/04
« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2004, 05:13:56 pm »
Ok!!!
the top looks good...I would make the shuttlebay 50-60% wider
The bottom needs the trench too like the top...but thats it for the meshing aspect
Sweet work thus far mate
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/24/04
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2004, 07:45:21 pm »
Thanx!! ;D

That damn trench system is the hardest thing to mesh, besides the secondary hull...grumble, grumble...hoped ya wouldn't notice that, lol. :rofl:
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/24/04
« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2004, 08:07:59 pm »
Awsomness ;D

One thing I would change is that the aft impulse engine looks a little lo res in comparrison to the rest of the saucer ;)

Apart from that... damn fine work  ;D
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/24/04
« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2004, 09:15:59 pm »
Hey Sandman ....

 dont't look now bud ... but you're growing !!

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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/24/04
« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2004, 11:06:15 am »
Whats growing? :skeptic: :rofl: Thanx Buzz, though I know that what people are really waiting for is to re-texture this baby and do her justice...my textures are ok as a placemap, but someone will re-do her and then she'll really shine. :-\ ;D
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/24/04
« Reply #58 on: November 25, 2004, 12:05:20 pm »
OK, here's a little look with the bottom trench textured in instead of meshed...what do you think, acceptable?
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/24/04
« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2004, 04:17:20 pm »
Not bad at all..  Ya might try increasing the depth or intensity just a tad..  but other wise .. looks good
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/24/04
« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2004, 11:49:24 am »
OK, a little more...
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Re: TITAN WIP thread 2 UPDATED PICS 11/26/04
« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2004, 12:17:06 pm »
is the gray areas for the escape pods..  ??  ( just asking)

The one thing I see as a suggestion would be to straighten up the windows, make them a tad smaller, add more rows  ( especially around the edges ...  making some them diffenent shapes: square or retangular ) ..  that would make this ship look larger in scale)

Other wise ..  thsi looks great bud !

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