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SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
« on: June 09, 2005, 06:25:13 am »
Slave Girls of Orion V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls



Storyline:

    “The Governor's transmission code has been cracked, captain. We will have intelligible audio only in just a moment.”

    “Track the telemetry. I want to know exactly where these two ends are. The moment you have one or the other or both, let me know immediately.” Captain Mike Jerard noticed his breathing getting faster. He took a few deep breaths to calm himself. This moment was a long time in coming and the sacrifice had so far been considerable. He could feel the excitement and the trepidation. He wondered if he was being too greedy going for two at the same time.

    “Aye captain, computing the telemetry transmission data now.”

    Captain Jerard punched a button on his armchair panel. “Captain to transporter room. Sergeant, prepare your marines for assault.”

    “Standing by for your orders captain,” came a quick reply from the marine commander.

    Mr. Sinclair, the comms officer, turned toward his captain and flipped a switch. “Backing it up to the start … 10 second delay, sir. Speakers on.”

    Crackly static popped through the speakers then gave way to a heated conversation between a man and the sultry seductive sounding voice of a woman.

    “… when they fall in line. So don’t take me for a fool, Governor Ankhbar. You know as well as I that you have NO ground to stand on here.” She laughed. “Well, at least you do at the moment.”

    "You are a fool, Jadis and crazy too. Your plan is insane and doomed to failure. You have another thing coming if you expect the cartels to fall in line behind this insidious idea. They won’t ever follow the likes of you and your kind and you still won’t be taken seriously, I mean, how could you? And then you will be hunted down by every cartel and bounty hunter in known space. Oh, the things they would do to you… Death would the kindest fate you could possibly beg for.”

    “Shut your mouth you worm! You try my patience! Do you think I don’t know what it is you are trying to do here? I will not debate this with you and give your soldiers time to board this ship. If you won’t give me the access codes to the warp drive, then you leave me with no alternative. We have come too far to be stopped by a lickspittle like you. Your indignant refusal to cooperate in any way is in stark contrast to your usual groveling demeanor. Even I am surprised. So this is what you think of us. It is people like you who drive us to ends like this. Last warning. Give me the access codes or…”
    [/list]

    “Captain, we have the 1st end, it’s on the planet near the terminator, southern continent. Appears to be a heavily reinforced underground blast bunker.”

    “That’s Ankhbar. Transmit those coordiantes to the transporter room.”

    “Transporter room, this is the captain. Coordinates for the 1st end are inbound. It’s a reinforced blast bunker. Locate and detain Ankhbar. You will beam out on my command, good luck and standby. Prepare the second team.”

    “Copy that, captain, coordinates received, standing by. Team Two preparing.”

      “…if you kill me, you won’t get the warp drive access codes and then what will you do? Where will you go? You’ll be stuck in this system in a poorly armed interplanetary freighter. Think about that. So perhaps we can work out some other arrangement for you? I am a reasonable man. Return my ship and surrender now and we can discuss this in my private chambers. Laughter…”
    [/color]

    “Mr. Sinclair, where is the second end,” the captain asked the comms officer?

    Mr. Sinclair responded, “Looks like Jadis’ ship is on the other side of the planet. There are at least two comsat hops between her and the Governors bunker. We need to get line of sight to pinpoint her.”

      “…and I’m not in the least surprised you haven’t sent a distress signal. I mean, why would you? Obviously you don’t believe me enough to take me seriously. And you couldn’t stomach the embarrassment of needing help to deal with a woman. Savor your refusal to give me the codes and transmit my list of demands to the cartels as your last hollow victory.”

      “No, my victory will be your capture and then I’ll auction you off to the highest bidder, but not before I have my fun with you! Laughter…”[/list]

      Turning to the helmsman the captain said, “Red Alert! Commence Operation Spring Chicken. Pop the can, Mr. Moto and let’s light the fire.” Whatever ship Jadis is in, she can’t go to warp, Jarard thought. That means there is no where for her to go and I can get Ankhbar first and Jadis next. What a plan.

      “Affirmative, sir. Popping the can.”

      High in orbit above Sindar IV, a small sparsely populated Korgath Cartel-controlled planet in the neutral zone between Klingon and Mirak space, the interplanetary freighter ‘Silver Falcon’ literally fell apart. Side, top, front and rear, the exterior of the craft blew outward with explosive bolts and compressed gas. A few moments later, once cleverly hidden in its place, a Prime Cartel commando frigate, the ‘PCF Panther’, began to power up.

        “Word will spread soon enough and then our demands will be fully known and respected. I’m sorry, Ankhbar, but there will be no other arrangements. Oh, and you are out of time.”[/list]

        “Captain, systems online. We have full power.”

        “Excellent, Mr. Moto. Transporter room, this is the captain. Beam down. Go, go, go! Second team prepare for boarding action.”

          “What are you going to do now, Jadis? Blow up my planet? Laughter…“ 

          “That is precisely what I’m going to do.”

          “Laughter”[/list]

          The captain hung on those last words for a moment and turning to the Comms officer, he asked, “We are on a 10 second transmission delay?”

          “Yes sir.”

          “Transporter room! Beam them back up NOW! Get them back!” The captain yelled. Just to be safe...

          “Captain, you don’t really think that she can bl…” The comms officer was cut off in mid sentence. At that very moment, the viewscreen filled the bridge with blinding white light. Several moments later, everyone was knocked to the deck by a sudden shockwave and the lights flickered.

          “Everyone ok?” The captain asked getting back to his feet. Looking around the room, he saw the bridge crew nodding and returning to their stations. “Status?”

          “Lucky we were in high orbit and had gone to red alert, captain, or this would be operation roasted chicken. The shields held. Some sensors and cameras are offline and we will need a new paint job that much is certain. The rest is superficial. I’m maneuvering us through the debris field now.”

          “Transporter room, do I want to know?”

          “Uhhh, no sir, you don’t. I’m sorry.”

          “Understood…” The captain spun around in his chair and slammed his fist down on the bridge rails, his face full of fury and anger. He just lost part of his best commando team and his bounty on Ankhbar. “Damnit, how could she have? No one can blow up a whole planet! Damn her all to hell.” He wasn’t going to lose his bounty on Jadis too. After all this, she'd sure be worth a fortune. Maybe even enough to hire a new crack commando team and get his ship fixed. He jumped over to the helm station and looked at the viewscreen. Searing white hot plasma and burning chunks of molten rock were all that was left of Sindar IV.  “Helm, bring us around the planet, er debris field and lay in an intercept course for Jadis’ ship. She will pay. Oh yes, she will pay.”

            On board the warp disabled freighter ‘Gillespie’, Jadis’ second in command spoke. “Jadis, a Prime Cartel commando frigate approaches. Shall we prepare to fire?”

            “The crew, scan them. Are they human males?”

            “Scanning… Affirmative.”

            “Then no. Let them come. Lower the shields and let them board us. Once we are taken prisoner, we will then take the ship from them and use their warp drive to leave this system and set in motion the second part of our plan.”

            “Jadis,” her Second asked, “Taken prisoner, is this wise?”

            “Of course!” She said seductively while unzipping her corset to her belly button. “After all, no human male can resist us…”
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            Coalition



            Features:

              15 day server coming sooner or later.
              2267 yr start to 2285 end.
              Live interactive webmap.
              4 minute economy and shipyard.
              Web Based shipyard purchasing where the ship you want is ALWAYS available.
              Web based battle reporting system complete with player stats, rankings, etc.
              Coalition: Roms, Klinks, Lyrans and ISC vs Alliance: Feds, Gorn, Mirak, and Hydrans.
              PF's and Ftrs for almost every race.
              FS 4.0 type shiplist similar to past servers.
              Mision pack similar to past servers.
              Some ftrs and PF's will have new models.
              One click do-it-all install/uninstaller.
              Program menu shortcuts for PF/Ftr info lists, webmap, server info/rules, web based battle reports, etc.
              Number of ships allowed = 1
              Multiple accounts ok.

            Map:

              [/list]

                Map has neutral Starbase hexes which are not destructible located thoughout friendly space. These may be flipped any color so a race may operate far from home.

                Hexes start off at 10 and may be raised to 20.

                Before the start of the server, each side has 200 DV's they may put down in groups of 5 anywhere in friendly space to raise the hex DV up to 20. Each side will be allowed 1 BATS per race they may put anywhere in friendly space.

                Terraforming: There will be 3 hex locations made know per side that is an empty hex. These empty hexes have a planet which is not on the map, but has the opportunity to be terraformed and if certain conditions are met, a Planet will be added to that hex. In order for this to happen, several hexes deep behind enemy lines will need to be flipped. No LoS is necessary. The flipping of these hexes will constitute a 'raid' that your side has conducted in order to get the last know secret terraforming technology that was in the enemy's possesion. Each side will have the same opportunity. The hex and surrounding hexes must be under your control and you may terraform only one of these 3 hexes.

                Scorched Earth: If a former enemy Planet or Starbase (starbases are mission-indestructible) is surrounded and controled with a LoS, it may be bombarded and destroyed and wil be removed from the map.



              CnC and Rules:

              Penalty Box

                - If you lose one of the following ‘Special’ ship types, you may not fly another one of that class or higher for 24 hours. This applies to all of a person’s multiple accounts. The following ships below are considered ‘Special’: BB, DN, CVA, BC/V's.

                - Max Special ships on at the same time: 16 points. The following ships are worth the following points:

                  BB:    11
                  CVA:  8
                  DN:    6
                  BC/V: 4

                - No special ships are allowed to fly in a mission together. If they happen to by accident, one must immediately leave the battle without engaging the enemy.

              PvP V.C.’s

                - Kills will be recorded via a simple web based battle report system located on a link at the Interactive Web Map. Once a kill has been made, go to the battle report (done by the server) and click a box and type your name to confirm the kill.
                - Total PvP pts will be traded for map DV’s at the end of a VC period. Only the side with the higher point difference gets map DV's.
                - That side picks friendly hexes with LoS and the map is reconfigured and play continues.
                - Pts for ships are as above for special ships and 1 point for line ships.

              PF CnC

                - Full Tenders with 3 or 4 PF’s may carry no more than 1 Leader, and 1 Special PF.
                - Casual Tenders with only 2 PF’s may recover but not re-launch them because they have no repair capability per SFB and may not carry a leader or special PF.

              Fighter CnC

                Klingons, Lyrans, Romulans, Mirak and Gorn
                - No CnC

                ISC
                - Not more than 1 squad of HF ftrs.
                - FDF and HF ftrs may not be carried at the same time.

                Federation
                - F-14 ftrs can’t be used on ships except the CVS, BCV, CVA (2 squads max), DVL, and BB.
                - F-15 ftrs can’t be used on ships except the CVS, F-BB.

                Hydran
                - No more than 50% Hellbore ftrs, (ST-H).
                - Ships with only one squad may use ST-H ftrs.

                *Note* SFB Fighters with PlaD were converted to PhoF, "plasma mini-bolts", and a Ph3 360`.[/list]

                Map VC’s

                  - Planets = x pts.
                  - Bases = y pts.
                  - Special hexes = z pts.
                  - Must have an uninterrupted LoS to an allied HW.


                Bases

                  - BATS and BS's are destructible and will cost a lot. SB's are not destructible. (exception: See scorched Earth)
                  - May be placed anywhere with a LoS to a friendly base/planet as long as they are not adjacent to another base/planet.


                Deepstrikes

                  - If you draft or are drafted into a PvP in a hex that has no Allied or Neutral hexes adjacent to it at the time of the draft, then you may not disengage and must fight to the death.
                  - (Optional: Not decided) Exception: Romulan ships who disengage from PvP via cloak as long as at the time of the draft they are not in or adjacent to an enemy planet or base hex and they are fully cloaked before entering the red line and stay fully cloaked as they disengage without being tractored and T-bomb flashes don’t count.


                Disengagement/Destruction Rule

                  - If you are forced to Disengage in a PvP match, then you are banned from the hex you either took the mission in or were drafted in for 'x' number of turns. If your ship was destroyed then you are banned from that hex for 'y' number of turns. If this happens on a Planet or Base or any of the adjacent hexes, then you follow the above for the Planet or Base hex and all the adjacent hexes.

                General Rules

                  - If a mission causes all players to drop, then all those players must attempt to log back on and retry the mission allowing the slowest connection to draft. If this player is known to cause drops or lags, this player must not be on the front lines drafting, being drafted and causing connection issues. It isnt fair to anyone else. They need to do missions elsewhere.
                  - All other rules, same as past servers.


                Wild Geese

                  - 3-5 volunteer players will be the sole property of the admin. These players will start off with the side of their choosing and every 3 days, if one side has 'x' number more hexes controlled than the other, these players will switch sides.




                « Last Edit: August 28, 2005, 07:00:17 am by Dizzy »

                Offline Father Ted

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #1 on: June 09, 2005, 07:32:56 am »
                Was wondering where you were hiding.... ;)

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 07:50:04 am »
                Just wondering, can I get a Jennifer Connely pic as an Orion Slave Girl this time around? ;D
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                A tax code should exist to procure the funds necessary for the operation of government, not to manipulate human or business behavior.

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 09:14:41 am »
                VERY NICE plotline:D

                I am psyched to play this one though I think I'll make sure to fly only DD's or CL's to be safe.  Love the detail of your campaign plan + you've added more dimension to it  :woot:.  Psyched to check out the interactive webmap:)

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 09:32:32 am »
                How will you enforce the max # of whatever-type-ship in a hex rule? What if 2 get drafted in the same hex by accident?

                And where is my green Sophie Marceau?

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #5 on: June 09, 2005, 09:34:34 am »
                And where is my green Sophie Marceau?

                Yeah, her too!!!  :multi:
                Political Correctness is really Political Censorship

                A tax code should exist to procure the funds necessary for the operation of government, not to manipulate human or business behavior.

                A nocens dies in loricatus est melior quam a bonus dies procul opus.

                A bad peace is even worse than war."  --  Tacitus

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 12:37:50 pm »
                I like the green Dana Delaney. ;)

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #7 on: June 09, 2005, 12:57:20 pm »
                How will you enforce the max # of whatever-type-ship in a hex rule? What if 2 get drafted in the same hex by accident?


                Easy. Carriers can't operate in the same hex. Same for DN's. If by 'accident' 2x carriers or 2x DN's get caught in a mission, then one of them has to voluntarily disengage and are bound by the disengagement penalty.

                Here ya go FT.


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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #8 on: June 09, 2005, 01:58:00 pm »
                DNs and BCHs need to be treated the same.   Some races don't get BCHs untils a decade after others.
                Who'd thunk that Star-castling was the root of all evil . . .


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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #9 on: June 09, 2005, 02:17:32 pm »
                DNs and BCHs need to be treated the same.   Some races don't get BCHs untils a decade after others.

                So now you're penalizing us cuz we're better ship designers than you?
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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #10 on: June 09, 2005, 03:24:10 pm »
                DNs and BCHs need to be treated the same.   Some races don't get BCHs untils a decade after others.

                So now you're penalizing us cuz we're better ship designers than you?

                I was actually thinking about the ISC, but if screwing Hexx is an added bonus I say yes!   ;D
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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #11 on: June 09, 2005, 04:34:59 pm »
                Good point. Both are coalition races. Prolly need to do something like that even if only to screw hexx.

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #12 on: June 09, 2005, 05:32:23 pm »
                Good point. Both are coalition races. Prolly need to do something like that even if only to screw hexx.

                For AOTK2, we're using a points system.   X amount of Heavy Metal points on at a time.

                So if you are allowed 6 HM points on at a time, you can have either 3 BCHs or 2 DNs on at a time.   

                Feel free to rip this off though J'inn may try to collect a royalty.
                Who'd thunk that Star-castling was the root of all evil . . .


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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #13 on: June 09, 2005, 09:46:47 pm »
                Sounds like a good idea. I think I'll just buy him a bottle of scotch instead...

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #14 on: June 09, 2005, 09:47:42 pm »
                Make sure you get the cheap watery crap or he will complain!

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #15 on: June 09, 2005, 10:11:28 pm »
                Make sure you get the cheap watery crap or he will complain!

                Yoo voluntering a fine bottle of Cutty from your collection?
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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #16 on: June 10, 2005, 09:33:52 am »
                Arrrgh!!   I have not been paying proper attention to this forum.   I blame myself for my lack of attention.

                Tsk.

                Well . . . allow me to handle my chores.


                762,   BITE ME!

                Dizzy, BITE ME!

                DH, BITE ME!!


                Oh yes,  and I support the screwing over of Hexx 100%.


                There that's done.   Time for a nap.  Policing this forum is such hard work.

                   

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #17 on: June 10, 2005, 06:26:58 pm »
                 ;D Wow this looks really cool!

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #18 on: June 10, 2005, 08:09:37 pm »
                Yes, sign me up! I wonder who I should play this time?

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #19 on: June 12, 2005, 12:37:40 pm »
                This looks interesting. 

                I wish you would reconsider the wild geese concept.  You should not be penalized for getting out your troops. 
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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #20 on: June 12, 2005, 12:53:05 pm »
                This looks interesting. 

                I wish you would reconsider the wild geese concept.  You should not be penalized for getting out your troops. 

                By the same token, players on a side with fewer pilots signed up, or less available nutter time, shouldn't be punished either, I always found a campaign more fun if my side could win by superior piloting and strategy rather than superior numbers.  Actually, I've had a better time when my side lost for those very same reasons as well.  Nothing more frustrating than a numbers imbalance.

                I'll be happy to do Geese duty.

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                « Reply #21 on: June 12, 2005, 01:00:29 pm »
                Sounds like a winner to me

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #22 on: June 12, 2005, 06:24:50 pm »
                This looks interesting. 

                I wish you would reconsider the wild geese concept.  You should not be penalized for getting out your troops. 

                 ;) ;D
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                « Reply #23 on: June 12, 2005, 10:10:05 pm »
                This looks interesting. 

                I wish you would reconsider the wild geese concept.  You should not be penalized for getting out your troops. 

                You are penalized. The penalty is having a dull server with no opposition.

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #24 on: June 12, 2005, 10:30:13 pm »
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                Wild Geese


                - 3-5 volunteers will switch sides every 3 days when needed to balance player numbers.

                Who decides "when needed?"

                What do you do if a side decides to "rope-a-dope" near a VC counting period to get 3-5 volunteers on their side for the next three days, then come on in force? 

                If you know you have three Wild Geese on your side, do you trust them with message board access, and tell them everything you know, realizing they may be the opposition tomorrow?

                I've come to the conclusion that the Wild Geese concept is a bad idea.  I hope it does not come to pass.  I will be much less interested in a server that employs this concept. 

                Dizzy, I urge you to get rid of the Wild Geese concept on your server.  If you have it, I would appreciate it if you would be very specific about how you intent to run it.  I also think we should know who is "wild".
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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #25 on: June 13, 2005, 04:06:17 am »
                Dizzy, I urge you to get rid of the Wild Geese concept on your server.  If you have it, I would appreciate it if you would be very specific about how you intent to run it.  I also think we should know who is "wild".

                The idea here is simple. Player imbalance leads to server domination by side A and side B leaves the server which kills it. Servers are few and far between these days and too much effort is wasted on lopsided servers. Wild Geese are the only way to balance player lop-sidedness. Map design and VC conditions havent worked, neither have special rules or player signups or drafts.

                Now, I do see the flip side, dont think I do not. Mustering the troops before the server and then killing the enemy's ass completely and decisively early on by sheer numbers demoralizing them and forcing a win by enemy exodus from the server, have been in the past, a tried and true strategy which nets one side a win, but at the cost of PvP and player participation. While extremely satisfying to some, It isnt to me.

                So my server will focus on player participation and PvP using the Wild Geese as a tool to keep a player exodus from happening because one side is stacked more than the other.

                I'll decide every three days at a set time if the Geese switch and you will know who and when. And It's up to the RM what strategic info they get. If you dont feel you can trust them, then dont. I'll also have to be very specific what criteria I use to determine if they switch. It hasnt worked well in the past when an admin makes a 'judgement' call when it comes to 'steering' the direction of a server for the good of server longevity, so to avoid that backlash... I'm thinking of a set condition which triggers the switch. Perhaps a run-away with total hexes/types taken or a seriously lop-sided PvP score, not just because at 2am side B has 10 more players on. So a set of conditions the players know and can count on and possibly even work into their strategy is what should be used.

                I'll have to really be specific, so when it happens, it's taken as business as usual. But looking at the big picture, 3-5 players using specific guidelines as to how and when and who switches... shouldnt be that big a deal, and I think should be a standard server feature from now on...

                Hope that helps.

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                « Reply #26 on: June 13, 2005, 05:29:34 am »
                Actually I thought the draft system worked rather well   :thumbsup:

                I don't think every server should be draft oriented as it would restrict player racial choice but every once in a while I think it isn't a bad idea.

                Signups on the other hand are a lost cause, as many players for some reason or other never sign up and play like nutters and other sign and dont show at all.  In all my time of playing I've yet to see an accurate sign up for a server.

                A natural player for a wild goose role would be someone who didn't think they would have too much time on the first 3 days of the server and would sit out until day 4, that way they likely would not have to switch sides as much (or very likely at all).  I'd be willing to do this.  Another alternate might be to schedule players off instead of having them switch with a dominating side asking 3-5 pilots to take a break instead of switching.  I know I could find other things to do if I were on the side that was ahead, and that wouldn't require any need for plan secrecy.  Call these "Lazy Geese" if you will.

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                « Reply #27 on: June 13, 2005, 08:50:17 am »
                Ummm

                Offering to play a wild goose...
                Duck Duck Goose...


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                « Reply #28 on: June 13, 2005, 09:00:30 am »

                Duck Duck Goose...



                Now that was just painful . . .

                The draft on Mirror worked out in the end.   Though it was under-populated, the player balance was wonderful.
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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #29 on: June 13, 2005, 11:29:26 am »
                LAZY ALERT!!


                This may already be answered in here somewhere . .  but .. . .


                When would this start?

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                « Reply #30 on: June 13, 2005, 12:05:00 pm »
                LAZY ALERT!!


                This may already be answered in here somewhere . .  but .. . .


                When would this start?

                After AOTK2.   How is that map coming along?   :P
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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #31 on: June 13, 2005, 12:13:44 pm »
                LAZY ALERT!!


                This may already be answered in here somewhere . .  but .. . .


                When would this start?

                that is a good question, that I also want answered. ;D




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                « Reply #32 on: June 13, 2005, 12:39:10 pm »
                LAZY ALERT!!


                This may already be answered in here somewhere . .  but .. . .


                When would this start?

                After AOTK2.   How is that map coming along?   :P

                Can't do the map until we answer  "The Big Question"


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                « Reply #33 on: June 13, 2005, 02:28:23 pm »
                U go 1st J'inn, dont wanna step on any pooty tat paws.

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                « Reply #34 on: June 13, 2005, 03:24:06 pm »

                Can't do the map until we answer  "The Big Question"



                What's under the tutu?
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                « Reply #35 on: June 13, 2005, 06:00:57 pm »
                Not that question, you ass.  ::)  Geeze. You're obsessed.   :P
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                « Reply #36 on: June 13, 2005, 06:55:21 pm »
                at least he's not obsessed...  ;D

                obseesed / obsessed   ::)
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                « Reply #37 on: June 13, 2005, 08:28:43 pm »

                Can't do the map until we answer  "The Big Question"



                What's under the tutu?

                Inquiring minds want to know(except Josh)  ;)

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                « Reply #38 on: June 13, 2005, 08:55:21 pm »

                Can't do the map until we answer  "The Big Question"

                What's under the tutu?

                Inquiring minds want to know(except Josh)  ;)


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                « Reply #39 on: June 13, 2005, 10:36:35 pm »
                I thought the "Big question" involved scheduling, to be more precise Die Hards fantasy weekend with Rosie O'Donnell....... ;D

                I could swear I heard him mentioning dating "Rosie" on teamspeak one night.....

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                « Reply #40 on: June 14, 2005, 09:15:01 am »
                U go 1st J'inn, dont wanna step on any pooty tat paws.

                OHHH NO YOU DON'T!!    They look surly!!   You go first!!

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                « Reply #41 on: June 14, 2005, 10:31:31 am »
                Ummm...

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                « Reply #42 on: June 14, 2005, 11:10:47 am »
                I guess there's always GSA unitl this gets sorted out.... ;)
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                « Reply #43 on: June 14, 2005, 11:23:16 am »
                GRUMBLE!!!

                Alright.  Unless Jeff has SS3 ready to go soon . . . .

                I'll get the map done this weekend.

                DH can start on the techie stuff . . . erm . .. well . . . now I guess.

                It shouldn't take too long to get this one ready for testing.


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                « Reply #44 on: June 14, 2005, 12:09:32 pm »
                Go with 3 sided J'inn !!

                Use the map VC's to make sure no two sides can gang up on the third, and let it rip !
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                « Reply #45 on: June 14, 2005, 03:14:11 pm »
                Okay Okay . . . .


                I though 2 sided was best.  Really I did.   But Jeff here is INSISTING on a 3 sided war.   Who am I to deny Mr. Jeff?   I mean really, he works hard, I should let him pick this. 

                So . . . .


                3 sided it is . . .


                Blame Jeff.



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                « Reply #46 on: June 14, 2005, 03:48:34 pm »
                You are assuming that 3-ways will work if the RM's decide to 'care' about the VC structure rules. On SG4, it was quite clear that side A didnt 'care' that side C would win, they only 'cared' about crushing side B. To hell with the VC's... That's a big assumption. I wouldnt bet on it.

                Damn thread hijackers!

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                « Reply #47 on: June 14, 2005, 04:25:24 pm »
                3 sides means we get to double-team Hexx  ;D
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                « Reply #48 on: June 14, 2005, 05:34:02 pm »
                The problem with 3 sides has nothing to do with VC's. The problem is when one of the sides gets gang-banged by the other two and quits the server.

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                « Reply #49 on: June 14, 2005, 05:43:09 pm »
                The problem with 3 sides has nothing to do with VC's. The problem is when one of the sides gets gang-banged by the other two and quits the server.

                Then we take it down until people stop being schmucks.
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                « Reply #50 on: June 14, 2005, 05:47:20 pm »
                Um, that would mean that it would never come back up since some people are schmucks by nature...

                I won't mention any names of course...
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                « Reply #51 on: June 14, 2005, 05:49:08 pm »
                The problem with 3 sides has nothing to do with VC's. The problem is when one of the sides gets gang-banged by the other two and quits the server.

                What he said.

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                « Reply #52 on: June 14, 2005, 06:20:55 pm »
                The problem with 3 sides has nothing to do with VC's. The problem is when one of the sides gets gang-banged by the other two and quits the server.

                Then we take it down until people stop being schmucks.

                Might as well not put it up, because it's happened on every 3 sided server we've ever had.

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                « Reply #53 on: June 14, 2005, 07:09:39 pm »
                I already told both of you it will be 2 sides.
                I even gave you the teams!

                Really I'm not sure what all the confusion is...
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                « Reply #54 on: June 14, 2005, 07:19:54 pm »
                Um, that would mean that it would never come back up since some people are schmucks by nature...

                I won't mention any names of course...

                I have a blackhole with your name on it!!!
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                « Reply #55 on: June 14, 2005, 07:20:48 pm »
                I already told both of you it will be 2 sides.
                I even gave you the teams!

                Really I'm not sure what all the confusion is...

                Everyone versus Kittes?
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                « Reply #56 on: June 14, 2005, 07:28:48 pm »
                I already told both of you it will be 2 sides.
                I even gave you the teams!

                Really I'm not sure what all the confusion is...

                Everyone versus Kittes?

                Damn straight.
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                « Reply #57 on: June 14, 2005, 09:05:40 pm »
                Um, that would mean that it would never come back up since some people are schmucks by nature...

                I won't mention any names of course...

                I have a blackhole with your name on it!!!

                That must have been a painful tattoo.

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                « Reply #58 on: June 14, 2005, 09:27:53 pm »
                Um, that would mean that it would never come back up since some people are schmucks by nature...

                I won't mention any names of course...

                I have a blackhole with your name on it!!!

                That must have been a painful tattoo.

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                « Reply #59 on: June 15, 2005, 12:14:47 am »
                Um, that would mean that it would never come back up since some people are schmucks by nature...

                I won't mention any names of course...

                I have a blackhole with your name on it!!!

                Now why on Earth do you assume I'm talking about you, DH? You're just a bastard.

                Now lawyers OTOH...
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                « Reply #60 on: June 15, 2005, 12:55:06 am »
                My fiancee will kill me for this...but where are the Orion Slave Boys?
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                « Reply #61 on: June 15, 2005, 01:06:10 am »
                My fiancee will kill me for this...but where are the Orion Slave Boys?

                Oh they are around Judge, just remember that while Orion Slave Girls are Green-skinned, Orion Slave Boys are Blue-skinned.

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                « Reply #62 on: June 15, 2005, 04:20:59 am »
                 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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                « Reply #63 on: June 15, 2005, 04:47:19 am »
                :o :o :o :o ;D :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

                After the past few months of flying:
                Hydran...... Ohhh look at all the pretty fighters.
                Lyran...... Hell if Hexx can fly these things so can I...... well maybe not ;D
                Gorn...... Damn these ships can take some Damage
                Romulan....... These can be fun to fly
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                « Reply #64 on: June 15, 2005, 07:55:05 am »
                Make the wild geese pirates!  Could the side they belong to be changed on the server every 3 days?  This way if they are going to change sides then they will have to make for neutral territory or risk being dealt with by the side they are screwing over.

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                « Reply #65 on: June 15, 2005, 08:45:22 am »
                Make the wild geese pirates!  Could the side they belong to be changed on the server every 3 days?  This way if they are going to change sides then they will have to make for neutral territory or risk being dealt with by the side they are screwing over.

                It wouldnt matter much as the both sides have pirate races. In the Features section, I have the Lyran and Mirak interface setup with pirates. Take a look at the map and you will see they have adequate bases to operate from and adequate economy to support a plentiful shipyard. SG3 and 4 were setup similar in that the Lyr+Klink and Hydran+Mirak share a race which worked very well. In the GFZ server, the pirates were very well sorted and laid out along with the empire races and a similar setup is planned for SG5. The pirates are there for players who like variety. Unlike a cartel slot, these pirates can flip empire hexes and also engine double. It is up to each side's player what race to choose.

                Believe me when I say they may not be needed... and if they are, then 3-5 players... out of how many these days, 60-70 players with a max of 25-35 on at a time... wont make that much a difference other than to prevent a blow-out. They will be carefully planned and thought out. There wont be any grey area in their deployment. Everyone will know what it will take to cause these wild geese to flip. Take that to the bank... and to the strategy board. ;)

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                « Reply #66 on: June 20, 2005, 10:00:34 am »
                Something wicked this way comes...


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                « Reply #67 on: June 20, 2005, 10:57:37 am »
                Full Details to come soon  ;)
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                « Reply #68 on: June 20, 2005, 11:39:18 am »
                Make the wild geese pirates!  Could the side they belong to be changed on the server every 3 days?  This way if they are going to change sides then they will have to make for neutral territory or risk being dealt with by the side they are screwing over.

                It wouldnt matter much as the both sides have pirate races. In the Features section, I have the Lyran and Mirak interface setup with pirates. Take a look at the map and you will see they have adequate bases to operate from and adequate economy to support a plentiful shipyard. SG3 and 4 were setup similar in that the Lyr+Klink and Hydran+Mirak share a race which worked very well. In the GFZ server, the pirates were very well sorted and laid out along with the empire races and a similar setup is planned for SG5. The pirates are there for players who like variety. Unlike a cartel slot, these pirates can flip empire hexes and also engine double. It is up to each side's player what race to choose.

                Believe me when I say they may not be needed... and if they are, then 3-5 players... out of how many these days, 60-70 players with a max of 25-35 on at a time... wont make that much a difference other than to prevent a blow-out. They will be carefully planned and thought out. There wont be any grey area in their deployment. Everyone will know what it will take to cause these wild geese to flip. Take that to the bank... and to the strategy board. ;)

                I assume you are setting up a "wild geese" trip-wire system similar to what is used on Wall Street where if the indices fall a certain amount then trading is halted for an hour and so on.  If it's bad enough then the markets are closed.

                It would be a novel concept for once if a dynaverse campaign actually has a system that will prevent a numbers imbalance crash that then inevitably leads to a depression like state which then leads to an abandonment of the campaign (ie. 1930s was the only decade in US history where more people emigrated out of the country than immigrated in.). ;D

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                « Reply #69 on: June 20, 2005, 01:07:57 pm »
                  So Kroma is gong to be on the opposite side of the fence this time switching with Roms.DieHard and Kroma will enjoy slugging it out. ;D

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                « Reply #70 on: August 14, 2005, 03:13:40 am »
                Afaik, there is EcoWar/Pirates server and then SS3...

                So for SG5, mb after that... and I've been kicking around the idea of a Klingon and Federation Coalition (KFC) Vs. everyone else. Here's a concept map:

                « Last Edit: August 14, 2005, 03:41:39 am by Dizzy »

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                « Reply #71 on: August 14, 2005, 03:26:48 am »
                OMG  SS3 Klinks and Kittys on the same side...... Oh this will be fun ;D


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                « Reply #72 on: August 14, 2005, 03:43:14 am »
                Mb even give some K and F vanilla ships some technology exchange, have some variants with dizzies and photons. Mb even allow the two to share ftrs. What a carrot.

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                Re: SG V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!
                « Reply #73 on: August 14, 2005, 07:58:40 am »
                Awesome, three cool servers all lined up...  :thumbsup:

                I'm back to work on the SQL webmap and OoB interface (Forgot about kill confirmation forms... but can do...perhaps before OoB) with SMF (forums) integration too! I'm protoyping it on The Forge build 38 SQL test server:  http://www.dynaverse.net/webmap_op_sql/  <-- will be "in flux" for a while, possible resets on the db as I test stuff out. (and fix up that campaign map a bit...)

                With two servers to come before SG5 I should have time to get most of it done, can't say for sure it will all be ready in time, but I hope to have it done by then.

                I also need to update the SQL and flatfile webmap with the new terrain types Tracey introduced recently. Tracey and I are discussing additional issues with the serverkit as well, I think we are getting closer to the grail...

                Just let me know if a flatfile map is desired for Ecowar or SS3 if they are to be run on Xenocorp servers.

                (Plus, I still gotta get a real job and cannot let this get in the way too much...)