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[Dizzy]

Wow... Cool game in an asteroid belt. I rocked a DNW and an NHK with my CCZ, heh.

[Wraith 413]

 No new posts in awhile to this thread?       Is no one playing on GSA lately?

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

No new posts in awhile to this thread?       Is no one playing on GSA lately?

I saw only Five people on last night! That included the 'away' crowd too. It was sad. Every other night seems like about 12 people, though.

I know DH was planning to have a Dynaverse campaign battle PvP server sometime soon... while that is still in construction, we should get 6 people together to have a race vs. race fleet match on GSA. Maybe a classic Feds versus ______?

[SrCpt_SFHQ_XC]

I'm out of GSA for a bit, I might be able to get in via IPing in, but I haven't tested it. For the time being though, dont expect to see me on GSA.

[Tus]

i'll be back on later this week, have a few models to finish up

[MtO Lyrkiller]

I might be up for a game or two, if I can figure out what happened when I installed OP.

I my need to reinstall XP again.

[GE-Raven]

I think I finally am back in

GE-Raven

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

We had a 40-minute 2v2 match today, 177 late no X:

Ribcager's G-CCH and my K-D7W versus a R-FHF and I-CW. It was a good game, but they seemed to get annoyed that we had saber-danced and ran for most of the match (what else can one do against a mauler and plasma duo?).

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

I have often wondered about the mental state of certain plasma chuckers who become indignant when you don't simply fly up to them, park and let them hit you with it. "Stop running, you suck!" you're wasting my time etc while they are taking on damage little by little. 

[FPF-DieHard]

We had a 40-minute 2v2 match today, 177 late no X:

Ribcager's G-CCH and my K-D7W versus a R-FHF and I-CW. It was a good game, but they seemed to get annoyed that we had saber-danced and ran for most of the match (what else can one do against a mauler and plasma duo?).

Were these the some mooks who said the EXACT same thing to us about a month ago?  I would not be shocked 

I'll be on tonight.

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

One of them was one of the same guys we had a previous experience with, but it was actually the other pilot who was complaining.

Dax, you've had this happen too? It sounds more common than I thought.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

I've seen it often enough on GSA over the years and a few times on the dyna.

[[KBF]MuadDib]

heh...just guessing here...but im sure most of the gsa crowd...would complain about any match taking longer than 30 minutes...

they are not accustomed to the epic battles where if one loses...they lose points for the team...save the ship...nah...until recently...or a year or so from what i heard...a gsa person would never run for the border...think thats dyna carrying over into gsa...but i could be wrong...

and not that i want to make anyone unhappy...but they dont really get the whole "strategy" thing either...diz can vouge for that...

even when you try to help people...its like talking to a wall...oh well...at least we try...

[GE-Raven]

I will say... I won my first two games... and I was told that one of the ICOP guys was pretty good... dunno... but I will be damned if it didn't
"all come back"

GE-Raven

[FPF-DieHard]

I will say... I won my first two games... and I was told that one of the ICOP guys was pretty good... dunno... but I will be damned if it didn't
"all come back"

GE-Raven

Ramagar is the best ICOP guy left.   Excellent pilot.   He's on a lot so it was probably him.

[FPF-DieHard]

heh...just guessing here...but im sure most of the gsa crowd...would complain about any match taking longer than 30 minutes...

they are not accustomed to the epic battles where if one loses...they lose points for the team...save the ship...nah...until recently...or a year or so from what i heard...a gsa person would never run for the border...think thats dyna carrying over into gsa...but i could be wrong...

and not that i want to make anyone unhappy...but they dont really get the whole "strategy" thing either...diz can vouge for that...

even when you try to help people...its like talking to a wall...oh well...at least we try...

Yeah, part of my "master plan" in becoming a GSA regular is trying to get some of these guys interested in my campaign idea.  not sure how well that's gonna work out but it's still been fun 

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

If anyone wants to fly one, Muaddib has a room up but we're looking for a 2v2.

[[KBF]MuadDib]

heh...just guessing here...but im sure most of the gsa crowd...would complain about any match taking longer than 30 minutes...

they are not accustomed to the epic battles where if one loses...they lose points for the team...save the ship...nah...until recently...or a year or so from what i heard...a gsa person would never run for the border...think thats dyna carrying over into gsa...but i could be wrong...

and not that i want to make anyone unhappy...but they dont really get the whole "strategy" thing either...diz can vouge for that...

even when you try to help people...its like talking to a wall...oh well...at least we try...

Yeah, part of my "master plan" in becoming a GSA regular is trying to get some of these guys interested in my campaign idea.  not sure how well that's gonna work out but it's still been fun 

kewl...between the two of us...maybe we can get most of them over to the serious dyna servers...

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

Last night, Dib hosted a stepped BPV Feds vs. Klink room. 1 DN on each side, 1 BCH, and 1 NCC. It was a lot of fun, and it was pretty cool to see that everyone followed the rules and picked only from their race. Lots of fun.


Also, there was a 3v3 room with the points at 300 Late. The rules were:

• You could only pick an NCA-type hull (New Command Cruisers, New Fast Cruisers, etc were allowed too), but it could be loaded like a Dynaverse ship, with fast drones and supplies.
• No X, and only one carrier and one mauler per side.
• The teams were Alliance versus Coalition, so you had four races to pick from.

The other team was confused about the rules or something, and took Heavy Battlecruisers and X1 ships. We taught them 

By the next game everything was cleared up and there was a GG. This Alliance vs Coalition stuff is awesome.

[FPF-Paladin]

I'd love to get involved in those kind of matches.

Years back I got sick of GSA because everyone seemed to have a list nearby of "Cheesiest ship per BPV/era" and never deviated... booooring.  'Course I discovered the dyna then... so maybe it wasn't all bad

I know not all players are for this type of match but I enjoy them very much when the fleet makeup makes some kind of operational sense instead of the usual mixed bag of tricks.

[[KBF]MuadDib]

the hard part is setting the rules in a timely fashion....without losing players...

and the limiting of 12 spares didnt go over well with one player in particular...draco 69...the guy i call lizard...

but i chalked that up to the fact that he was impartial as he couldnt take a rom and fix fix fix while cloaked as i wanted to give some advantage by allowing the other team to decide either C or A as i picked my team before launching...and lizard picking a mauler is a pretty much 99.9% of the time...

im hoping the more i am able to pull this off...the easier it will be to get these types of games going...makes it much easier when i get the same folks and only 1 or 2 new ones as the ones who know are able to help the newcomers out...

asides from chazzey...im getting everyone to play in my rooms with the rule set of...no 2 ships the same...no x...1 mauler or carrier per team...and i told spider yesterday that the next time he disregards the rules...he will no longer be allowed in my rooms...its seemed to straighten him out as i had no problems with him yesterday...

and like i said...hoping within the week the race wars and/or C or A become as easy as no 2 ships the same...no x...1 mauler or carrier per...team...

and butcher has been around doing what i call Dizzy's "step bpv set up" as Dizzy was the first ive ever seen doing this in GSA...this is another nice set up and really helps with the no 2 ships the same...no x...1 mauler or carrier per...team...but this is another set up thats gotta be done in a timely fashion...

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

and butcher has been around doing what i call Dizzy's "step bpv set up" as Dizzy was the first ive ever seen doing this in GSA...this is another nice set up and really helps with the no 2 ships the same...no x...1 mauler or carrier per...team...but this is another set up thats gotta be done in a timely fashion...

And people have grown accustomed to it, too, so there isn't as much waiting around or "What's a step" kind of thing. Like you said, players will get used to the C vs A matches and they will be quick to set up.

[Dizzy]

Step it up!

The whole idea was to get peeps to use different ships and set it up to where you start seeing a lead or capital ship w/ support ships and less of the same two type of ships in the game. Doing that would lead to more varied strategic play as well. Stepped accomplished that and made it more fun too. If I hadnt done it I'm sure someone would have. I'm glad it caught on. I'll have to revisit gsa sometime.

[knightstorm]

Step it up!

The whole idea was to get peeps to use different ships and set it up to where you start seeing a lead or capital ship w/ support ships and less of the same two type of ships in the game. Doing that would lead to more varied strategic play as well. Stepped accomplished that and made it more fun too. If I hadn't done it I'm sure someone would have. I'm glad it caught on. I'll have to revisit gsa sometime.

One thing I've occasionally advocated for was having matches where everyone gets excess bpv, and has to choose a specific hull size.  That way you can have ships that you don't normally see in gamespy play like droners and pf tenders,  but every time we've tried that, some moron doesn't follow directions.  In one particular match a certain idiotic player brought a BBZ to a CL fight.

[FCM-Corbomite-XC]

Well, back in the old days when someone wasn't following the rules we set up (people used to do stepped BPV and specific fleet battles before the D2 was online, but it has been many years since that was a normal occurrence on GSA) his teammates would withdraw and allow the three opponents to pummel him until he got the point or left. Then one player on the opponent team would withdraw and there would be a 2v2. This was in the day of around 1000+ people on MPlayer. Considering the time it takes to get a good game going these days this seems like a fair way to salvage a game that might have taken 30+ minutes to get going.

[[KBF]MuadDib]

bump!

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

Well deserved bump.

I forgot about those 300 late Heavy Command Cruiser with a Dynaverse loadout games. We should have them again. They are lots of fun and people can learn to follow the rules.

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

Last night, there was an AWESOME game that lasted an hour and fifteen minutes. 3v3 with a 160-250-160 stepped points, no X, and no 2 races the same per team.

IIRC,
Knight in a F-DNM or some improved DN variant
Cobra in an I-CLZ
Me in a K-DWL

vs.

KrownELF in a G-DNM or similar
MuadDib in an I-CMZ
Tans in an H-IRC

GG

[[KBF]MuadDib]

Last night, there was an AWESOME game that lasted an hour and fifteen minutes. 3v3 with a 160-250-160 stepped points, no X, and no 2 races the same per team.

IIRC,
Knight in a F-DNM or some improved DN variant
Cobra in an I-CLZ
Me in a K-DWL

vs.

KrownELF in a G-DNM or similar
MuadDib in an I-CMZ
Tans in an H-IRC

GG

LOL!

wait till you fly a dyna server Mace...theres lots of long battles...