Topic: You know what would seriously tempt me to pay for something online...

[Captain KoraH]

...pipe dreams gentlemen, just pipe dreams....

[Toasty0]

It ain't a picnic to publish your own games. Look at  3DO  who has a fairly good slate of games. They just filed for bankruptcy protection after being unable to sell off titles currently under development. That on top of the fact that the owner plowed 12 million of his own money into this once vibirant company over the past year.

Best,
Jerry  

[Skawpya]

well in regards to a non star trek project done with the permission of adb, they have two possibilities already, one being the lesser magellanic cloud that last I checked was close to publishing. the other being omega sector, though for that, they still have a few more products to go before all the needed non vanilla ships, and minor races are ready.

[Mr. Hypergol]

 

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 ...pipe dreams gentlemen, just pipe dreams....  

For 20 years I thought computerized Star Fleet Battles was a pipe dream.....but you know what.....now we have Starfleet Command and even SFBonline.  Just give it time.  

[Mr. Hypergol]

 

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Should the GaW-like game follow the SFB rule set.  

Well it wouldn't be GAW if it didn't.....now would it?  

[Kieran Forester]

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I believe Erik Bethke said that Taldren owns the source code for SFC, so perhaps they could make a non-trek based game that was SFC/SFB "under the hood" but with everything renamed to remove the Trek.  For example, we'd have laser 1,2, & 3's instead of phaser 1,2, & 3's, although the damage tables (from SFB) would be the same.  In this case only Amarillo Design Bureau's permission would be required.  This kind of thing could work because the data behind SFB was totally developed by ADB and has nothing to do with Star Trek, i.e. there is nothing in Trek that says a phaser does such-in such damage at such-in-such range.  Paramount does not own SFB based data....just the Trek overlay shall we say.  SFB's/SFC could function exactly the same "as a game" no matter what everything was named.  You'd of course have different ship models and race names for races like the Feds, Klingons, etc......but the game would be the same functionally.  Lastly, if the game was adequately moddable, the Star Trek overlay could be added right back in by the fans.

Or, they could make a game using the Omega Sector SFB rules. That could be interesting, and I'm pretty sure Omega Sector doesn't use any standard Trek weapons except for maybe phasers. Not saying that I don't want GaW, with Andros + Tholians, mind, but it is an alternative.

[Skawpya]

actually if I recall, the andromedans arent star trek canon unless they really stretch the idea of the Kelvins being the andromedans. Thus they could be added to any omega sector or magellanic cloud product.

[Dogmatix!]

In terms of any sort of GaW project....I'm much more interested in SFB canon than Star Trek canon.  



 

[Scipio_66]

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I was just talking with Frey just the other day (poetic, I know) about how I'd pay in advance for GaW...hell.  I'd pay a lot more for GaW than is normally the price of a new game title.  I'd buy multiple copies and made sure my friends who couldn't afford it had a copy.


This is how bad I want a fully functional GaW-like product.


I'd even pay a monthly fee to access to servers.



 

Ditto to all that.  Hear, hear!  Well-spoken!

-S'Cipio  

[Lepton1]

I suggest you all pray for the death of Trek in movies or on TV then.  For as long as Paramount cares to hold onto the Trek rights and dole them out to publishing idiots, GAW will not be a reality.  Fact is the whole Trek business is somehow an intellectual property that someone can own, eventhough it is such an accepted part of US society.  Additionally I am not sure how willing ADB will be to give over its whole franchise to a live version that practically negates the use of its products.

[Mr. Hypergol]

 

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Additionally I am not sure how willing ADB will be to give over its whole franchise to a live version that practically negates the use of its products.

This is probably more of a factor than the death of trek itself.  We probably will have to wait for ADB to either stop making and selling the board game version of Star Fleet Battles or fold all together before we'll see real computerized SFB.

Hopefully Steven Cole will grant this permission sometime after he's done with SFB.  Computerized SFB could be the grand fanalie for the whole franchise.  I hope he has something like this in mind.

Perhaps I'll start praying for the death of SFB instead.

[SghnDubh]

Someday, Dash, your dream --which many of us share-- might happen.

Until then, might I suggest that you consider playing Freelancer? Here's why.

There is a total star trek conversion mod due out by frostworks. I'm talking with Ripperman about how BattleClinic can help support that effort.

When that mod is released, I have a feeling that it will be the closest thing to a MMORPG that Trek will have.

This is why BattleClinic is now supporting Freelancer as well as SFC. I see a convergence between the two that, if a game developer is smart, will pick up upon and leverage.

My 02.

[NannerSlug]

a total trek conversion for freelancer. hmm.. those sounds promising.. plus, it is also the closest to conitous space/ ability to "warp" from point to point, etc.

interesting. we will have to wait and see.

[Dash Jones]

Currently playing Freelancer, though it doesn't come anywhere close to replacing SFC, I do like it.  SFC & SFB are better, at least for me.  A mod for Freelancer you say?  Hmm, I might have to check that out when it comes out.