Topic: Well before I go nuts and get the several copies of VC++6.0 from Ebay (Read 7166 times)

Khalee1 · « **on:** February 19, 2005, 06:07:38 pm »

What is the main differance between the standard edtion and the professional edition.? Could either be used for scripting missions for the game.

Khalee1 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2005, 04:52:07 pm »

Well going to go ahead and get c++6.0 from Ebay But how far do I need to upate it in order to make scripts for the game.

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:58:04 pm »

Just DL SP5 (service pack 5). It's available at microsoft.com. Also get Dave Wessels "API Tutorial". It's a bit dated (it was made for EAW), but still the best tut I've seen. I know almost nothing about C++ and was able to make working skirmish scripts that ran. Also Cam78's "Skirmish Walkthrough". With these two, you should at least be able to get something that runs and decide if you want to dive in deeper.

Dave has a personal site that his Tutotial is on. I don't have the addy right at hand, but a search of Dave Wessels, or Nuclear Wessels, should come up with it. That's how I've gotten it before. It's 71 pages long and prints out pretty well.

I found Cam78's at Starfleet Universe, IIRC. It's about 18 pages long and is for writing a basic skirmish script.

Be carefull loading the API. You have to use your registry editor and the instructions that come with the API aren't real clear. This n00b screwed up his registry the first time he tried to do it. Dave Wessels instructions were much easier to follow for me, and I was able to load the API correctly with them without screwing my registry up.

good luck

Khalee1 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2005, 09:55:00 am »

Once again which version will work for game scripting the Standard or Pro version. And whats the main differance between them

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2005, 05:14:18 pm »

Standard edition will work.. but if youu decide to really get into programming, go with the Pro... after getting V C++ 6.0, you will still need to DL the SP 5 for it to make scripts..

Again Standard will work just fine.. Pro will give more tools for doing other projects in the future.. but Standard covers everything that SFC scripting needs.

Lono · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2005, 02:19:57 pm »

Wouldn't this work well - and give you more for your money??

Visual Studio .NET Professional - Academic - Retail - $89.00

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837116160

Do any programmers out there have any concerns with this product??

I'm very curious because I was wanting to get this to learn C# for web development.

toasty0 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2005, 02:23:11 pm »

Quote from: Lono on April 21, 2005, 02:19:57 pm

Wouldn't this work well - and give you more for your money??

Visual Studio .NET Professional - Academic - Retail - $89.00

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837116160

Do any programmers out there have any concerns with this product??

I'm very curious because I was wanting to get this to learn C# for web development.

None at all. It is the IDE I'm using right now to work my way through the 70-315 Exam tutorial, develop a Ladder League site (no fee of course), and do a whole lotta other fun coding things.

Lono · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2005, 11:31:08 am »

Awesome - thanks for the info!

Now I just need to get one of my comps upgraded to XP

Thanks Again!!

Magnum357 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2005, 12:40:46 am »

I don't know, I program a lot with Visual Basic and to be honest I like VB6 more then I like VB.net. A lot of bugs with .net and I don't like the IDE, its a little different then VB6. Also, the syntax is has quite a bit of differences then the old version. I've heard peopel say VB.net has more control over objects and such, but in my opinion, if I want such "hands on control" I might as well use C++/VC++. I can't give an opinon about C# as I have not doved into C++ programming yet.

toasty0 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2005, 09:21:25 am »

Quote from: Magnum357 on June 25, 2005, 12:40:46 am

I don't know, I program a lot with Visual Basic and to be honest I like VB6 more then I like VB.net. A lot of bugs with .net and I don't like the IDE, its a little different then VB6. Also, the syntax is has quite a bit of differences then the old version. I've heard peopel say VB.net has more control over objects and such, but in my opinion, if I want such "hands on control" I might as well use C++/VC++. I can't give an opinon about C# as I have not doved into C++ programming yet.

You're right 357. VB.Net is object orientated while VB is procedurally orientated.

el-Karnak · « **Reply #10 on:** August 08, 2005, 02:47:43 pm »

Quote from: Magnum357 on June 25, 2005, 12:40:46 am

I don't know, I program a lot with Visual Basic and to be honest I like VB6 more then I like VB.net. A lot of bugs with .net and I don't like the IDE, its a little different then VB6. Also, the syntax is has quite a bit of differences then the old version. I've heard peopel say VB.net has more control over objects and such, but in my opinion, if I want such "hands on control" I might as well use C++/VC++. I can't give an opinon about C# as I have not doved into C++ programming yet.

Guess what some .Net original developers from Microsoft did? They decided to try and bring the .Net functionality to the Java language. So, they formed their own company and were bought up by BEA WebLogic to produce the BEA WebLogic Portal product. It's real piggy software to run and you need about 4GB of RAM to efficiently compile a Portal application with WebLogic Workshop IDE. Otherwise, developer productivity takes a sever nose-dive when they are waiting 30 minutes to compile their portal apps. :O BTW, the IDE is pretty buggy. We had a training class at work and the trainer was apologizing for it and "promising" that the bugs would be fixed. He actually told us that if you don't need the WebLogic Workshop IDE then you should turn it off cuz it's memory leaking like crazy. That's what I call being a lousy salesman.

The Microsoft invasion of Java has begun . . .and the buggy, piggy software is coming with it too.

toasty0 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2005, 03:36:07 pm »

Quote from: el-Karnak on August 08, 2005, 02:47:43 pm

Quote from: Magnum357 on June 25, 2005, 12:40:46 am
I don't know, I program a lot with Visual Basic and to be honest I like VB6 more then I like VB.net. A lot of bugs with .net and I don't like the IDE, its a little different then VB6. Also, the syntax is has quite a bit of differences then the old version. I've heard peopel say VB.net has more control over objects and such, but in my opinion, if I want such "hands on control" I might as well use C++/VC++. I can't give an opinon about C# as I have not doved into C++ programming yet.

Guess what some .Net original developers from Microsoft did? They decided to try and bring the .Net functionality to the Java language. So, they formed their own company and were bought up by BEA WebLogic to produce the BEA WebLogic Portal product. It's real piggy software to run and you need about 4GB of RAM to efficiently compile a Portal application with WebLogic Workshop IDE. Otherwise, developer productivity takes a sever nose-dive when they are waiting 30 minutes to compile their portal apps. :O BTW, the IDE is pretty buggy. We had a training class at work and the trainer was apologizing for it and "promising" that the bugs would be fixed. He actually told us that if you don't need the WebLogic Workshop IDE then you should turn it off cuz it's memory leaking like crazy. That's what I call being a lousy salesman.

The Microsoft invasion of Java has begun . . .and the buggy, piggy software is coming with it too.

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