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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2005, 08:16:50 pm »
Different people different experiences. 

I wouldn't think that it is the North America vs Europe element.  More likely just the natures of the individuals involved.  My group of friends may have aptitudes that yours lack and vice versa.  It could even be something as simple as having someone in each group with a particular aptitude for one system or the other to assist the others in "getting it".  One thing that just occured to me.  My friends pretty much all like "resource games" like Civilization, Master of Orion etc. shoot em ups are liked much less.  It could be that resource orientation works well with 3rd Ed.

Yes my niece is quite bright.  :)  That isn't just the uncle talking it is her marks.  She did have the advantage of growing up in a gaming household and starting with games at an early age.  She wants to join the campaign if it gets going again just to kill the halfling trader the players ran into last time.  She wasn't playing and still found him too irritating to live.  I modelled him on the Mr Hainey character from Green Acres.  I bought the DVDs just to get the character right.  I think it worked.  :)  Obviously I also have fun with the roleplaying side as DM. 

My self I prefer the roleplaying side.  I always try to give my character some type of disadvantage.  Some times the character gives it to himself (Dex 4 1st edition Cleric). 

A 2nd edition fire elementalist who was terrified of contact with water (made the sea voyage interesting :) ). 

A 2nd edition dwarf fighter/psion who had just come out of thousands of years of suspended animation (needed DMs consent of course) and knew no modern languages.  The other players had a lot of trouble communicating with him and even more figuring out his class.  He kept doing things a fighter couldn't do.  :)  He would have told them if they asked (using the right magic to talk to him of course) as he was LG and had no clear reason not to tell them.

A 1st edition character that had some trouble with dying.  Elf thief/mu(LN) - Gnome ft/th(CG) - Elf ftr/th (CN).  Then wished back to life instead of reincarnated.  Wished back with all the memories abilities and physical form of the 1st identity.  But the personality of the 3rd.  A CN with all the memories of the LN and the gender got reversed along the line.  Became rather unbalanced. 

1st edition th/mu (complex history) ended up with the sword Black Razor from White Plume mountain.  The way I played it was that the more the character was boosted in HPs and to hit the more irrational and enthusiastic for combat it became.  The character was normally played as a calm rational deep thinker.  The other characters wouldn't let me use the sword except when they called on my character to use it.  They were afraid if my character were boosted to far that the ability to discern friend or foe would be lost.  The aggressions and irrational behaviour isn't part of the sword I just thought it would be fun to play it that way.. but only the DM and I knew that.  :)

I haven't actually played 3rd edition only DM'ed it. 

I never tried Hackmaster but had some fun with Marvel Super Heros.
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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2005, 08:48:04 pm »
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Mr Hainey character from Green Acres.


I have to admit, I've never seen Green Acres, that's probably the only part of your post I don't really understand.  Got the rest of it, but dont' really know the Green Acres Characters.

 I couldn't stand Hackmaster.  I get some of the humor, but playing it as a game...soooo not fun in my book.  I don't know why some people love it so.  Everyone around the table seemed to be having a great time...everyone but me that is.
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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2005, 09:22:59 pm »
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Mr Hainey character from Green Acres.


I have to admit, I've never seen Green Acres, that's probably the only part of your post I don't really understand.  Got the rest of it, but dont' really know the Green Acres Characters.

Green Acres is about a lawyer who goes out to the country to become a farmer. His socialite wife is not amused. 

Every step of the way Mr.  Hainey the local salesman/conartist is there to "help" the Lawyer.  The farm has a house suitable for burning down.  Soil that is "depleted" at best.  A tractor that was made by a company that broke up 50 years ago and the tractor was old then.  Whenever something goes wrong Mr. Hainey has a "solution" of the same quality as the farm.  Everyone in the show is always being conned by Mr Hainey and being mad as heck when it turns out that it was only a deal for Hainey.  All that and Mr Hainey isn't even in every episode. 

That should give you an idea of the show.

The halfling ended up tied up in the baggage car.  But he did get a promise from one of the PCs to do a deal in the future.  Since the PCs were in their own past at the time the player involved thought that the deal had (from his point of view) already occured (to his detriment).  History however has been altered by this meeting and that deal never happened.  If the campaign restarts they will meet him again and it will be up to them to try and get a good deal from a professional con artist.  But he does have something they need :) .

I have never used the time travel thing before but have reason to do so with these characters.
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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2005, 12:00:39 am »
Gamma World was pretty cool. Post-apocalyptic fun.
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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2005, 02:15:29 am »
I am a lover of AD&D myself but I have to tell you that when WoTC decided to put out 3.5 and make me pay out the nose for it AGAIN, I dropped it.  I can't stand to buy from a company that does that to it's fan base.  MMMMM might be the reason why I don't LARP that much anymore since White Wolf changed the whole freaking world!  Makes almost no sense.  Anyway now a-days Ferret is running something called HARP made by Iron Crown.  Really good game and once you get to know it it's pretty easy to learn.  We've got our boys playing it and quite a few of our family and friends into also. 

Who has played RoleMaster?  HARP is a lighter rule system but pretty close to RM.

Here is Iron Crown.

And here is what HARP is all about.

These are great games and I'd be happy if you just check em out! ;D

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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2005, 09:06:45 am »
The problem I had with 2nd Edition was that they didn't hack away all the silly stuff 1st Edition had in it.  Level Limits?  Alignment restrictions?  Bah!  Naturally our house rules did away with all that crap.

3rd Edition is the better system in my opinion.  It's simpler, it has a skill system that makes sense (Nonweapon Proficency slots?! I got your slot right here...), wizards come closer to being worth a damn, etc...

...but in the end, there's better games out there.  The White Wolf d10 system is my groups favorite.  We just converted our D&D campaigns over to that system and have been loving it.  Less time rolling more time playing, and a short combat encounter is about five minutes, not half an hour.
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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2005, 09:56:56 am »
Remember D&D's main competitor, RuneQuest?
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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2005, 01:31:03 pm »
I am a big fan of Ravenloft.  However, I don't use the head set when playing online.  As a story driven game, I try to make it purely done by the written word, not the verbal communication.  If you are interested, take a read and let me know what you think...


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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2005, 02:22:19 pm »
Remember D&D's main competitor, RuneQuest?

Oh ya!
Loved that system... until Avalon Hill? (I think) got ahold of it. It was simple to learn before that.
Sure died a lot easier in Rune Quest though... but it didn't take long to make a new character. Musta lost 7 or 8 elves in "Big Rubble" alone...
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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2005, 04:36:41 pm »
I am a lover of AD&D myself but I have to tell you that when WoTC decided to put out 3.5 and make me pay out the nose for it AGAIN, I dropped it.  I can't stand to buy from a company that does that to it's fan base.  MMMMM might be the reason why I don't LARP that much anymore since White Wolf changed the whole freaking world!  Makes almost no sense.  Anyway now a-days Ferret is running something called HARP made by Iron Crown.  Really good game and once you get to know it it's pretty easy to learn.  We've got our boys playing it and quite a few of our family and friends into also. 

Who has played RoleMaster?  HARP is a lighter rule system but pretty close to RM.

Here is Iron Crown.

And here is what HARP is all about.

These are great games and I'd be happy if you just check em out! ;D

Loved RM/MERPS!!!

Basicly, that is basicly what AD&D has turned into... Rolemaster without the rolling to determine the damage!!

Roll the dice, add your 'to hit' bonuses and see if you pass their armour rating....

Remember, 66 is the magic number!!! ;D
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Re: Anyone still play Pecil and Paper AD&D?
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2005, 10:55:00 pm »

Loved RM/MERPS!!!

Basicly, that is basicly what AD&D has turned into... Rolemaster without the rolling to determine the damage!!

Roll the dice, add your 'to hit' bonuses and see if you pass their armour rating....

Remember, 66 is the magic number!!! ;D

OMGs Yes!  ICE has kept that 66 thing.  It's really really hard to get but when you do . . .  poor Ferret had to think quick a few times for wierd stuff, but at the low levels we are at now 66 can really mess you up!  LOL
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