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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2005, 10:28:05 pm »
As stated in the opening post:
The fate of the Empire will be determined by the D7's & D5's
F5's & E4's
F5B's & D7B's will be available for those of you talking smack about "what real Klingon's fly" Enjoy. 

A REAL Klingon warrior can win in anything against a foe without honor. :-) personally I am beginning to respect the D6 :-)
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2005, 01:52:56 am »
KCW will be a (hopefully) 3 week server covering 3 years (or maybe one real long year)MAP

The map is fairly large (40 x40ish)
-Each faction controls one Homeworld hex, the 6 hexes surrounding it, and 5-10 (ish) target hexes spread across
the empire .Everything else is neutral.
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You may need to do some serious testing to make sure all houses have a shipyard with enough ship choices in it considering each empire's economy will be so tiny. However, since all special ships and DN's will not be available (how do you plan on doing this, as the kit is sensitive to what it has to choose from to generate AI and not introduce DB errors) but on the flip side, that creates a boredom issue, especially with a 3 week server.

A 10 day or 2 week server would be better. With just one race, and only a handful of ships allowed, I can see myself getting bored fairly quickly, and let's not forget there is no time scale or tech tree to exploit. 3 weeks is too long.

Also, it'd be nice to have different model folders for some of our house ships. If its true our ship selection will be tight, then it'd be easy to setup seperate folders for all our command ships, like the D5/7L and W's. That'd be way cool. I can't wait to see what a pink D7L would look like. ;D
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2005, 12:23:29 pm »
You might get bored?  Heaven forbid.  Don't let the door hit you in the ass.  It's Hex's first server I believe.  I'm sure he welcomes suggestions and advice on technical issues, but I don't think he has any obligation to entertain you.  I'd love to see a server with limited ship selection at one tech level.  It's a great leveling of the playing field.  Sorry you won't be able to buy your way into a BB and roll over the map.  You'll have to live with a cruiser.  I'm sure you will do fine.
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2005, 12:33:53 pm »
Everything seemed to work pretty good on Mirror (which was Hexx's..wasn't it?), of course, Mirror was only 2 sides, not 6-8.
Besides, it things go Sour, think of all the bitching we can do at Hexx... ;D
He loves all those nice PMs we send him... :P

I'm sure he'll get it all worked out...
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2005, 01:53:53 pm »
Hexx BETTER get it worked out...

Or we'll hand him over to Howard...

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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2005, 02:23:09 pm »
DO IT!
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2005, 05:37:28 pm »
So Far I love all the rules except the loss of a C7 because of a stinkn bug.

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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2005, 11:03:44 pm »
You might get bored?  Heaven forbid.  Don't let the door hit you in the ass.  I'd love to see a server with limited ship selection at one tech level.  It's a great leveling of the playing field.
Oh goodness! Someone like me who has the courage to speak out against someone and say the unpopular! I love it. Lepton, I respectfully disagree. Variety has and will always be the key to this game's longevity.

That said, wtf is Hexx going with FS's shiplist of there are only 5 or 6 ships avaialble? The kit would run better faster cheaper if he stuck to stock and based kcw off that.

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It's Hex's first server I believe. 
And lets not let anyone forget it either. He should be put under the microscope and be lashed for the slightest mistake. Afterwards we will take turns dousing him in salt.

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I'm sure he welcomes suggestions and advice on technical issues, but I don't think he has any obligation to entertain you.
Hexx is obliged to tickle my balls whenever and wherever technical or not. The question is if it entertains ME.  

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Sorry you won't be able to buy your way into a BB and roll over the map.  You'll have to live with a cruiser.  I'm sure you will do fine.
I'm the best pvp player left in this community. Last server proved it. Dont mistake it, few kills were even scored in my BB. Most kills saw me in a smaller ship spanking someone bigger. I expect more of the same. I just have to watch out for bear. ;)
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2005, 12:09:20 am »
How does your head fit through a door?  Is there nothing in your own life to bolster your self-worth or do you merely play the part of a self-centered ego-manical braggard as some way of entertaining yourself and maybe one or two others?
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2005, 12:32:55 am »

 I just have to watch out for bear. ;)


I wouldn't worry about Bear I'd worry about the rocks this time, and your wingman especially if he challanges you to take out the ai alone while his finger lingers over the T-bomb button  ;D

<Snicker>.
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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2005, 03:39:26 am »
How does your head fit through a door?

Stop hijacking the thread. We all know I go around/under/over the door. This is about two concerns I have. One is that such limited ship selection may adversely affect the serverkit AI choices introducing errors into the DB and the other is server longevity. Have you actually asked yourself how you will feel flying the same several ships for 3 weeks with no tech progression and no variety? If you thought the missions on AOTK2 were bad, wait till you get a load of how formulaic the missions will be with such limited setup mission after mission for 3 weeks. I think it deserves some consideration.

Honestly, Lepton, you are a liberal thinker, surely you agree getting issues like this out in front way ahead of game time is fair play.
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2005, 05:00:47 am »
Darn server maintenance...It saved you all from my ranting and raving and questions....
short version...
will we see a small amount of ships from bordering powers taking advantage of the situation?
Will we see klingon impperial units?(maulers, carriers, etc?)
Will houses have access to units that carry very limited fighter amounts (not true carriers so to speak?)
Do you have enough variation in the shiplist for it to be interesting?(really this is just dizzy's question again)
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2005, 06:24:34 am »
1) No
2)Yes 3) No
4)Of course the US government doesn't know anything about secret prisons
5)Since- if you're feeling bored- Dizzy can always chase you around using
a stock D6 /D7, or flying 3xPF's I think so.
If you're looking for an ever increasing number of super ships
-ie if you want to fly a Lyran BCH today,Fed CVAR tomoorow, then a BB
then maybe a Gorn BCS
You're going to be bored.


There will be far more ships left in the list then taken out
(well maybe not "far" but 'some, possibly" )
and all the ships will be available in all their Glory for the AI.

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« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2005, 06:36:17 am »
No boredom for me lots of close brutal up close matches, its a refreshing change in my book.  Having little diversity will be diversity, a step away from the uber fests  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2005, 08:08:01 am »
I'm the best pvp player left in this community. Last server proved it. Dont mistake it, few kills were even scored in my BB. Most kills saw me in a smaller ship spanking someone bigger. I expect more of the same. I just have to watch out for bear. ;)

Dizzy, I might have to make you eat those words. True I have not played for a long time but in my day I am reasonably sure I could kick your butt, I could stand up to SFCShadow and did stand up to many of the best players this game ever saw. I did not win every battle but I won enough to know I can hold my own against ANYONE.  So you go ahead and enjoy your ego trip for now while I practice a bit more and knock the rust off.

Then you and I will have a little dance, I am leaving my dance card empty just for you....

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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2005, 08:22:12 am »
No boredom for me lots of close brutal up close matches, its a refreshing change in my book.  Having little diversity will be diversity, a step away from the uber fests  :thumbsup:

Here Here!  :woot: :singing:
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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2005, 09:09:59 am »
I'm the best pvp player left in this community. Last server proved it. Dont mistake it, few kills were even scored in my BB. Most kills saw me in a smaller ship spanking someone bigger. I expect more of the same. I just have to watch out for bear. ;)

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« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2005, 11:33:47 am »
How does your head fit through a door?

Stop hijacking the thread. We all know I go around/under/over the door. This is about two concerns I have. One is that such limited ship selection may adversely affect the serverkit AI choices introducing errors into the DB and the other is server longevity. Have you actually asked yourself how you will feel flying the same several ships for 3 weeks with no tech progression and no variety? If you thought the missions on AOTK2 were bad, wait till you get a load of how formulaic the missions will be with such limited setup mission after mission for 3 weeks. I think it deserves some consideration.

Honestly, Lepton, you are a liberal thinker, surely you agree getting issues like this out in front way ahead of game time is fair play.

As a casual player, I have different concerns.  I don't plan to be on the server for massive amounts of time.  I get bored. I leave and come back some other day.  It's no fault of the server design as far as I am concerned whether I become bored or not.  The very idea of this server is for a restricted time period, restricted tech, restricted ship server.  It's certainly Hex's right to put up such a server if he wishes.  If he builds it, they will come or not.  As I say, he is under no obligation to entertain you.

As I also said, I am sure Hex is more than willing to accept technical advise or assistance.  However, I find the way that you couch your assistance/criticism to be indicative of your general sense of self-importance.  Be that as it may, if you feel slighted, you have my apologies.  Perhaps I am too quick to find fault without cause. 

Please continue with fleshing out the server issues and offering any assistance you can but let's not stray too far from Hex's original conception if it is technically feasible.  He certainly has a right to see his server realized in the manner that he imagined it.
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2005, 03:05:48 pm »


sounds cool
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2005, 04:37:11 pm »
Will there be a bounty on Dizzy?  8)

One thing Id second... It would suck to have a house lose its one c7 to a game bug... If that remains the law, then lets hope the debugger works its magik, and it wont be an issue.
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« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2005, 04:47:43 pm »
I'm thinking of putting bounties in, just haven't decided on format.

Won't be anything special on Dizzy, I'd hate to see the first house that fought him get a leg up on everyone else.

The C7 rules are there because
- It prevents it from turning into a BCH fest
- It keeps "new"players from erroneously purchasing C7's
-It should keep C7 usage to a relative minimum,
- It will keep me from having to wade through accounts of
"I lost connection at the last minute"
"I didn't know we had lag until .."
" DH alted out when he was going to get killed by my F5"

If both players in hte mission agree something screwy happened I'll assume one can simply alt out
and save the ship, if you're in a solo mission and something happens I'll asssume you'll alt out quickly and I'll
never hear about it.

Really I'm just lazy and don't want to have to monitor & try and fix replacements.

The C7's will likely be in accounts created by me (or Wanderer if i can make him) one for each house plus the
extra. The House leader will have the option to sign in using the C7 account or to run their "normal" account.
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« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2005, 05:52:08 pm »
If both players in hte mission agree something screwy happened I'll assume one can simply alt out
and save the ship, if you're in a solo mission and something happens I'll asssume you'll alt out quickly and I'll
never hear about it.

I like this compromise.

If a user has ttrouble, I also assume he can alt out as long as he has his recorder going and can prove the bug beyond an allegation, and/or that the others ackowleged the bug.

Would be 100% better if both parties agree and alt out.

Lets just hope that the ones fighting the unfortunate C7 are nice enough to ackownlege a bug and let them alt out.

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« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2005, 05:23:37 am »
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The C7's will likely be in accounts created by me (or Wanderer if i can make him) one for each house plus the
extra. The House leader will have the option to sign in using the C7 account or to run their "normal" account.

What if the house leader wants the C7 to be their normal account and just have another smaller ship on a secondary one?  Can that be worked in or no?
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2005, 10:32:09 am »
the guy riding the scooter in that pick must have no problem getting laid. I wonder if it could smoke my RC51
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Re: Klingon Civil War
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2005, 11:50:40 am »
Hex,

You say 1 or 3 year server.

What year? I'm thinking about fast drones.

If 3 year, if we get fast drones, at what year of the 3 will we get them?

If one year, will we get them at all?
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« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2005, 01:03:45 pm »
Do we even want them?
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« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2005, 01:05:48 pm »
Do we even want them?

To keep it short... no  ::)
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« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2005, 01:06:26 pm »
Well, just want to know ahead of time is all. 

Don't care either way, just want to know.
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« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2005, 04:59:21 pm »


sounds cool


I don't know if the above is intentional or not ... but it is damn funny.
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« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2005, 08:19:30 pm »
Hex,

You say 1 or 3 year server.

What year? I'm thinking about fast drones.

If 3 year, if we get fast drones, at what year of the 3 will we get them?

If one year, will we get them at all?

I prefer medium drones. They should be a weapon, but not the defining one. Phasers and dizzy's should be the real test.

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