Topic: They call this crap art? (Read 2225 times)

Jack Morris · « **on:** February 24, 2006, 07:39:04 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060224/ids_photos_en/r3926949721.jpg;_ylt=AjToXLJG7OzBQuj9z_cmDQrK.nQA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3bGk2OHYzBHNlYwN0bXA-

Looks like a painting of a swamp cooler A/C filter to me.

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2006, 07:54:19 pm »

If you stare at it long enough, the chick in the picture will go home with you.

That's the purpose of art.

E_Look NCC-9091 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2006, 08:22:45 pm »

Much of modern art (and music) is b.s.

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2006, 09:13:57 pm »

As opposed to non-modern art that's nothing but pictures of Jesus.

Sirgod · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2006, 09:55:05 pm »

Hey know, Ed Harris is a great artist.

Seriously Pollock was a huge Drunk and drug fiend back in his day. If you get the chance to see the movie about him though, It's kinda Interesting.

Stephen

E_Look NCC-9091 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2006, 11:01:45 pm »

Quote from: Punisher NCC-2000 on February 24, 2006, 09:13:57 pm

As opposed to non-modern art that's nothing but pictures of Jesus.

What's wrong with that...

... unless you're a fundie...

... like me.

likkerpig · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2006, 01:10:10 am »

Quote from: Jack Morris on February 24, 2006, 07:39:04 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060224/ids_photos_en/r3926949721.jpg;_ylt=AjToXLJG7OzBQuj9z_cmDQrK.nQA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3bGk2OHYzBHNlYwN0bXA-

Looks like a painting of a swamp cooler A/C filter to me.

Pffft... uncultured barbarian!
Obviously you must penetrate the layers of the image to find it's true meaning.
It isn't a landscape with easily identifiable subjects and objects, it makes you work to find the true beauty and genius of the artist.
Go back to your shallow, lazy pretty pictures and leave the "hard" stuff to those willing to appreciate it.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2006, 02:04:45 am »

I guess if I took a hit of acid I would be able to see the "true meaning" of his art.

likkerpig · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2006, 02:35:47 pm »

Quote from: Jack Morris on February 25, 2006, 02:04:45 am

I guess if I took a hit of acid I would be able to see the "true meaning" of his art.

Ya, might help.
Was playing devil's advocate with tounge firmly in cheek defending that "art".
Got no doubt it took him a long time... big canvas and a lot of paint... but... umm.. why?
Although it is one of those paintings I'd probably sit in front of for an hour zoned out staring at it... abstract stuff does that to me.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2006, 02:45:02 pm »

Quote from: likkerpig on February 25, 2006, 02:35:47 pm

Quote from: Jack Morris on February 25, 2006, 02:04:45 am
I guess if I took a hit of acid I would be able to see the "true meaning" of his art.

Ya, might help.
Was playing devil's advocate with tounge firmly in cheek defending that "art".
Got no doubt it took him a long time... big canvas and a lot of paint... but... umm.. why?
Although it is one of those paintings I'd probably sit in front of for an hour zoned out staring at it... abstract stuff does that to me.

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It still annoys me that museums and governments will bay big money for stuff that looks like my kid drew in kindergarten.

likkerpig · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2006, 03:40:22 pm »

Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on February 25, 2006, 02:45:02 pm

Quote from: likkerpig on February 25, 2006, 02:35:47 pm
Quote from: Jack Morris on February 25, 2006, 02:04:45 am
I guess if I took a hit of acid I would be able to see the "true meaning" of his art.

Ya, might help.
Was playing devil's advocate with tounge firmly in cheek defending that "art".
Got no doubt it took him a long time... big canvas and a lot of paint... but... umm.. why?
Although it is one of those paintings I'd probably sit in front of for an hour zoned out staring at it... abstract stuff does that to me.

\

It still annoys me that museums and governments will bay big money for stuff that looks like my kid drew in kindergarten.

Heh, back in the 80's the fed canadian government paid 1.8 million for a painting... it was a canvas divided into 3 equal verticle lines, two red with a blue in the middle... hmm, gimme a tape measure, some tape and I'm pretty sure I could replicate it... wonder how much the forgery would be worth.

Sirgod · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2006, 03:48:28 pm »

You know, the painting reminds me of something, way way long ago, in a town far far ....erm about 90 miles north of me, I had my 9th grade Prom. I had a Tux shirt that looked alot like that , but with alot more color.

Stephen

Mentat Jon NCC 666 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2006, 06:08:28 pm »

Modern art sucks anyways. Robert Maplethorpe may you rot in hell..

20th century art sucks. 21 century art will be WORSE!

Fedman NCC-3758 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2006, 09:40:50 pm »

Looks like a road map of Monmouth County.

jayvt3 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 26, 2006, 03:00:40 am »

if i remeber correctly 60 minutes did a story where they had group of children paint and the found some lesser know works of famous artists, Pollock was one of them, and had group of so-called and self-described art experts see if they could tell the difference.

it was an experts fiasco. 90% of them got none of them right and the other 10% were wrong 90% of the time. one young lady art expert saved face, in my opinion when told of her mistakes, said these kids have great potential.

my limited intelligence was amused for days...

i was educated by my father and mother that "true" art's purpose is not to gain fame or fortune for the artist, it isn't for shock or awe. It is to inspire others to "attempt" reaching newer and BETTER heights for humanity. I shudder to think what a crucifix in a bottle of urine or a portrait of the virgin Mary done in elephant, dog and human feces would inspire someone to do.

also why is it the christian religion that this is done to??? what would muslims do if someone made toilet paper with the Qu'oran written on it?? We already know what they would do over a cartoon portraying Muhammed with a bomb for a turban.

16 dead in Afghanistan, 180 dead in Myanmar.

Model_Peon · « **Reply #15 on:** February 26, 2006, 04:13:10 am »

If it is something I can reproduce by slinging paint at a canvas, then it is not art. Calling it art demeans real art. It really is a shame that stuff like that ends up in a gallery. I can go to my local library and see 200 works done by local unknown artists that have 1,000,000 times more talent than that painting. There is no expression of anything exhibited here.

Fedman NCC-3758 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 26, 2006, 07:04:54 am »

Gazing the horizon, around his feet, or into the heavens, man is surrounded by the beauty and majesty of creation. The re-creation of this beauty on canvas is art. The rendering above is from someone looking inward and seeing the condition of his soul.

Sirgod · « **Reply #17 on:** February 26, 2006, 10:08:01 am »

Quote from: Fedman NCC-3758 on February 26, 2006, 07:04:54 am

Gazing the horizon, around his feet, or into the heavens, man is surrounded by the beauty and majesty of creation. The re-creation of this beauty on canvas is art. The rendering above is from someone looking inward and seeing the condition of his soul.

Fedman, You Rock.

Stephen

Nemesis · « **Reply #18 on:** February 26, 2006, 10:33:57 am »

To me art is a form of communication. Anything which cannot be understood without an explanation from the creator is not art. (Which is why I always failed poetry classes).

The art may say "look at this magnificence animal/view" or 'here is what I saw". It may say "laugh", "smile" or "cry". It can even say "here is a pleasant pattern to look at". But art always communicates.

That so called painting says nothing to me. If it was hung upside down or sideways would anyone even be able to tell? Even the artist?

E_Look NCC-9091 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 26, 2006, 03:48:29 pm »

Check our modeling forums, boys. Ship_Rods, among others there, are artists! They don't have to be Trek ships, or any ship; these guys just know how to use a computer to turn out beautiful things.

Modern art, modern music?... Emperor's new clothes, mostly underwear.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #20 on:** February 27, 2006, 12:56:27 am »

Mapplethorpe, wasn't he the dude that took weird pics, like with one dude with a long bullwhip coming out of his arse like a tail?

Brush Wolf · « **Reply #21 on:** February 27, 2006, 03:24:44 am »

All these years I have been throwing away my furnace filters and now I find out I could have gotten rich selling them as art.

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #22 on:** February 27, 2006, 10:00:47 am »

The worst part is that our tax money is paying to support a large portion of this..... 'art'.

762_XC · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2006, 10:20:35 am »

Ah yes, "Giant hairball", by Spot.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2006, 06:45:11 pm »

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KBF MalaK · « **Reply #25 on:** February 27, 2006, 07:40:46 pm »

Most forget that some of the most brilliant minds walk the thin line between genius and insanity, some stumble back and forth between the two realms- places most of us 'average' folks only dream of visiting.

I don't particularly like that painting, but I think Neiman and Picasso are masters. Maybe this guy is, maybe he isn't- but art is subjective.

Thats the real beauty.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #26 on:** February 27, 2006, 07:48:33 pm »

Plus one and so true Malak, I highly suggest you people rent "Proof" with Gywneth Paltrow and Anthony Hopkins, new release on DVD, and shows exactly what Malak is talking about.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #27 on:** February 27, 2006, 07:49:20 pm »

Oooops, I meant to say SIR Anthony Hopkins, a title well deserved, IMHO.

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #28 on:** February 27, 2006, 07:56:56 pm »

Damn! That means my wonderfull art piece "Bloody tampons on canvas" isn't art?!?!

It took me all month to make it! Well, most of that time was spent waiting..

Mentat Jon NCC 666 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 27, 2006, 11:33:20 pm »

I have a standing opinion, if I can do it, ITS NOT ART.

Art is a skill. modern art is skillkess junk.

FRA_stoneyface_XC · « **Reply #30 on:** February 27, 2006, 11:40:51 pm »

thgis is my favorite artist!!! how dare you make such a judgement. he invented the abstract-expressionist movement in the us. he became famous in the 50's and influenced deKoening, picasso (to some extent) and a host of other painter in the day. abstract was dying and needed new life. he gave it that life. you say " this is art?" well, i feel the same way about realism. take a picture!. if you don't like it, don't look at it. to judge it like you did is very ethnocentric!

762_XC · « **Reply #31 on:** February 27, 2006, 11:59:27 pm »

I can't wait to see "Bloody tampons on canvas". Pics please!

Jack Morris · « **Reply #32 on:** February 28, 2006, 08:38:08 am »

MelbuFrahma · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2006, 05:42:30 pm »

WoW such opinions on great things (above art not included)
For you that have bad opinions of todays Art.

Picture 1

Picture 2

Picture 3

thats just 1 person.

but you history people should know
DaVinci= first person to design Airplanes/Helicopters
and the First to Diagram the Human body inside and out. (apparnetly he was the village doctor and carved up the dead to diagram the body.)

GDA-S'Cipio · « **Reply #34 on:** March 03, 2006, 12:14:13 am »

Quote from: FCM_stoneyface_XC on February 27, 2006, 11:40:51 pm

thgis is my favorite artist!!! how dare you make such a judgement. he invented the abstract-expressionist movement in the us. he became famous in the 50's and influenced deKoening, picasso (to some extent) and a host of other painter in the day. abstract was dying and needed new life. he gave it that life. you say " this is art?" well, i feel the same way about realism. take a picture!. if you don't like it, don't look at it. to judge it like you did is very ethnocentric!

What the heck??!!

I make judgements on it because that's what you are supposed to do with art. It's put out there to be looked at and judged.

This piece I judge to be crap. It looks like it was made by a funnel cake machine that went awry. How does that make me ethnocentric? I haven't a clue what the ethnicity of the artist [sic] is.

-S'Cipio

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #35 on:** March 04, 2006, 04:29:19 am »

Quote from: FCM_stoneyface_XC on February 27, 2006, 11:40:51 pm

thgis is my favorite artist!!! how dare you make such a judgement. he invented the abstract-expressionist movement in the us. he became famous in the 50's and influenced deKoening, picasso (to some extent) and a host of other painter in the day. abstract was dying and needed new life. he gave it that life. you say " this is art?" well, i feel the same way about realism. take a picture!. if you don't like it, don't look at it. to judge it like you did is very ethnocentric!

That is fine and dandy, my only point is, if you like that stuff, you support it. Don't force us all to support it thru government taxes.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #36 on:** March 04, 2006, 07:10:23 am »

Right on Bear!

Fedman NCC-3758 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 04, 2006, 08:15:41 am »

Quote from: Capt_Bearslayer_XC on March 04, 2006, 04:29:19 am

That is fine and dandy, my only point is, if you like that stuff, you support it. Don't force us all to support it thru government taxes.

That goes double for PBS.

Sirgod · « **Reply #38 on:** March 04, 2006, 08:25:31 am »

As soon as there is no more tax dollars going for sport's, I'll back the removal of tax dollars for art.

Stephen

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