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[FPF-DieHard]

This has been bugging the crap out of me.   WTF do people castle against R-torps in GSA?  D2ers don't because we're used to a faster game because of available drone upgrades and Attrition units.  I've seen so much dumb WW usage in recent weeks on GSA that it's hysterical.   Who drops a WW for one torp with a Killerhawk parked 15 away?   

Funniest Quote of yesterday was when  a Gorn in a G-CCX got hit by a Speed 16 drone and complained to me because I had turned off my AMD.   He said "I have ZERO drone defense."   Um, Phasers?  It's got like 13 Phaser Xs which work fine for PD if you turn off the overloads.

I'm finding the X1 ships play really well at the BPVs they have in OP+, I think our "XXX late no-X" standard should just be "xxx late."  None of the X-cruisers are OTT for their BPV compared to monsters like the KHK and CCZ. 

[FCM-Corbomite-XC]

Funniest Quote of yesterday was when  a Gorn in a G-CCX got hit by a Speed 16 drone and complained to me because I had turned off my AMD.   He said "I have ZERO drone defense."   Um, Phasers?  It's got like 13 Phaser Xs which work fine for PD if you turn off the overloads.

Actually, he has a point. You're his wingman and you are supposed to cover him. He does have no PD. He has offensive weaponry that can be used defensively if needed, but that is not the preferred usage. You wouldn't use PH-1's as PD unless you have to would you? The stage 1 X-Ships are really retarded that way.

[FPF-DieHard]

Funniest Quote of yesterday was when  a Gorn in a G-CCX got hit by a Speed 16 drone and complained to me because I had turned off my AMD.   He said "I have ZERO drone defense."   Um, Phasers?  It's got like 13 Phaser Xs which work fine for PD if you turn off the overloads.

Actually, he has a point. You're his wingman and you are supposed to cover him. He does have no PD. He has offensive weaponry that can be used defensively if needed, but that is not the preferred usage. You wouldn't use PH-1's as PD unless you have to would you? The stage 1 X-Ships are really retarded that way.

Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD.  Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly.  Anyone's who's ever fought me knows I always turn my AMD off except when I intend on getting within range 8.

You are right though about the X1 ships.  In SFB the Phaser 1s could be fired in "rapid pulse" mode which would let each Ph1 be fired as 2 Ph3 for PD.  This obviously doesn't translate and is worth talking about.  I'll have to check how many free hardpoints are available on each ship and maybe add a GAT or 2 on the non G-Rack ships.

[FCM-Corbomite-XC]

Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD.

Of course... in a pinch. I've used Attack Probes to shoot down Drones, but I'm not going to use it as a general tactic.

Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly.  Anyone's who's ever fought me knows I always turn my AMD off except when I intend on getting within range 8.

Why do you always assume everyone knows what you are going to do? Why do you always assume everyone does what you do? Why do you always assume everyone agrees with what you do? Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! 

[marstone]

what I thought, but wanted to make sure before I tried to jump in a game.

[FPF-DieHard]

Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! 

They should dammit! 

You read my thoughts, I've gotten used to that.

[FCM-Corbomite-XC]

Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! 

They should dammit! 

You read my thoughts, I've gotten used to that.

No, no. That's called making up for your shortcomings!

[FPF-DieHard]

Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! 

They should dammit! 

You read my thoughts, I've gotten used to that.

No, no. That's called making up for your shortcomings!

My only shortcoming would be having Hexx as a Wingman!   

[FPF-Paladin]

Apparently, your wingmen aren't worth the trouble to communicate your intentions to. They're just supposed to know all your moves from your awesome rep! 

They should dammit! 

You read my thoughts, I've gotten used to that.

Hahaha...

Actually he does communicate his intentions, and if you're familiar with the race (well I only really have flown fed wing to him) usually you know what's coming by charge of weapon state and AOA to the enemy for exception of the random stuff he does to throw people off.

You guys kill me though... I'm probably ruining a joke to even reply....   

[FPF-Paladin]

Damn, now I'm itching to get on too.  Bastards!!!!  Outmanuevered....

[knightstorm]

I've seen so much dumb WW usage in recent weeks on GSA that it's hysterical.   Who drops a WW for one torp with a Killerhawk parked 15 away?   

Are you sure its intentional?  One problem I keep coming into with regards to WWs, is that I keep accidentally hitting W, when I mean to hit S.  Its reached the point where I don't load WWs, unless I'm planning a maneuver which requires them.

[FPF-Paladin]

Never know.

Honestly, a D2 pilot rarely flies like a GSA one.  Different loadout usually, different mindset...

Man I always considered ww's death except for planned maneuvers or when I'm facing loads of drone/plasma fighters.  Then they're a lifeboat on the Titanic in certain circumstances...

[Dizzy]

Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD.  Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly. 

Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.

[FPF-DieHard]

Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD.  Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly. 

Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.

EVERY D2 pilot has MUCH better drone defense skills than what I've seen the last 2 weeks on GSA

[marstone]

Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD.  Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly. 

Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.

actually isn't it, you set it up so the opponent gets swamped with drones (not hope he does). 

[knightstorm]

Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD.  Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly. 

Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.

EVERY D2 pilot has MUCH better drone defense skills than what I've seen the last 2 weeks on GSA

Unless you're flying heavy metal, you rarely face an opponent with more than 2 racks on GSA, and you're almost always going up against slow drones, so you don't need to conserve AMD.  If I don't think I'm going to need them later, I don't turn them off so my phasers are ready when I want to fire.

[FPF-DieHard]

Oh baloney, anything that can shoot down a drone is PD.  Waisting AMD when you're 30 away from you opponents is what's silly. 

Yups... that's the point of trawling with drones.... ur just hoping your opponent gets swampped with them or does something stupid like use precious ADD ammo on them. I'd let my wing get hit too if my opponent was 30 away... what a dumbass.

actually isn't it, you set it up so the opponent gets swamped with drones (not hope he does). 

with slow drones?  No very likely, only time you hit somebody is if they are already crippled or parked.  Relying on drones in GSA PvP is just not a good idea. 

[FCM-Corbomite-XC]

If you are covering a wing who is going slower than the drones you are facing (I don't care what the reason or how "stupid" you think they are) you had better have your PD set to ON or you're the dumbass and a poor wing. Losing a ship, for any reason, will probably lose you the battle. If your wing is flying poorly in your estimation it is up to you to make up for it, not help lose the fight.

[FPF-DieHard]

If you are covering a wing who is going slower than the drones you are facing (I don't care what the reason or how "stupid" you think they are) you had better have your PD set to ON or you're the dumbass and a poor wing. Losing a ship, for any reason, will probably lose you the battle. If your wing is flying poorly in your estimation it is up to you to make up for it, not help lose the fight.

Um, we won the fight.  And since when can't you blaim your wingman for loosing?   

[FCM-Corbomite-XC]

If you are covering a wing who is going slower than the drones you are facing (I don't care what the reason or how "stupid" you think they are) you had better have your PD set to ON or you're the dumbass and a poor wing. Losing a ship, for any reason, will probably lose you the battle. If your wing is flying poorly in your estimation it is up to you to make up for it, not help lose the fight.

Um, we won the fight.  And since when can't you blaim your wingman for loosing?   

Congratulations. You made up for his shortcomings! 

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

What is the real point of taking a ship into a GSA match based on point defense? Speed and a little turning will lose any slow drones, and plasma isn't much of a threat as long as the speed is high and one remembers not to come in at too steep an angle.

[FCM-Corbomite-XC]

What is the real point of taking a ship into a GSA match based on point defense? Speed and a little turning will lose any slow drones, and plasma isn't much of a threat as long as the speed is high and one remembers not to come in at too steep an angle.

Tell that to the guys that fly around leisurely at speed 15 like they're out for a Sunday drive.

[FPF-DieHard]

What is the real point of taking a ship into a GSA match based on point defense? Speed and a little turning will lose any slow drones, and plasma isn't much of a threat as long as the speed is high and one remembers not to come in at too steep an angle.

You and I think/fly alike.   A lot of players Castle in situations that I just find to be insane (multiple plasma opponents, against Fed ships that can hold overloads at high-speed, etc . . .).  Only thing I did like this recently was castle an G-BCH successfully against an I-CAZ.  In 1v1 you can get away with stuff like that but against multiple ships it can just get too hairy.

By the way, we had 20 people last night as well.  More than a D2 can draw these days.    I wonder if these guys can be talked into some typr of campaign . . .

[FPF-Paladin]

Wow, seriously... start recruiting 'em!

Post next night you guys plan on doing GSA will you?  I want to get in on some of this

[FPF-DieHard]

Post next night you guys plan on doing GSA will you?  I want to get in on some of this

people are on everynight.

[Dizzy]

On gsa right now doing some battles.

[FPF-DieHard]

On gsa right now doing some battles.

Last night was a first; a 3-way free for all when nobody won.  2v2v1, 175 Late but we gave Dizzy 509 because he was by himself and I felt like giving him a billion points.   Team all gets killed, Team B is me and Corbo.   I'm crippled, down to like 6 power in an I-CW.   Corbo's F-NAE get's pushed off the map but Dizzy's Pirate BB but not before soring a lot of damage with his Gats . . .

So here I am alone, crippled against a badly wounded BB.   Dizzy drops about 45 t-bombs on top of me and decides to run me over.   The resulting explosion kills both of us!

Is it me or did DIF-Josh get a lot better over the past year?  He flew that 195 late fight nearly perfect.

[FCM-Corbomite-XC]

You missed the best one later when Dizzy and I did a 2v3 where Dizzy tractored two of the other team into rocks.

[Dizzy]

Im on right now...! And yeah, last night was a hoot. Crazy games... Had some cool 3v2's as well.

[FPF-DieHard]

I went 2-2 with this baddass Hydran last night.  I can't remember his name but he was good (The_void?  Something with a V).   We gotta get this guy in as a regular.

175 Late:  H-CHCn (me) H-CHY.   I won this one.   I thought it was funny that we both took Hydyan.

199 Late:  G-BCH (me) H-SUI.   I lost!  We both managed to crippled each other in an exchange and I killed his fighters.  Suicide Fusions at the end killed me.

199 Late:  F-BCF(me) versus Some Beast-rider CVS that was pretty much a Hydran with drones:   I won this one but was cirppled at the end.

250 Late:  F-DNL (me) versus H-OS (Speed 31 III Helebore fighters) I lost!  Now I don't feel bad for killing Deadman on AOTK4 in the same fight!     He mad his first pass with the fighters out, I used my firepower on them and not the OS so he pretty much got a free range 0 Shot.  The next 20 minute was us trading Proxy and helebore shots (hard to chase somebody down when you at 41 power in a DN) which eventually lead to suicide fusions in my rectum (rectum, killed 'em!).  VGG