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New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« on: May 19, 2016, 11:54:38 am »
Here ya go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpPweAooeE&feature=youtu.be

Not much info as of yet, teaser trailer is 50 seconds long.

Found this via Ars Technica.

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2016, 04:06:27 pm »
From what I've picked up bits and pieces here and there.  They aren't planning on making it follow one set of characters over the course of a long mission.  Rather its going to be a ship here, and a ship there.  Maybe they'll have three or four different ships that they feature over the course of a month.  Makes it sound to me like its going to be maybe one or two "Main characters" (Admirals possibly) and then a bunch of "guest stars" that are the crews of the ships they send out on the missions.  The other option that I think of is that they might cover one ship in one season.  Then season two is another ship, maybe even another timeframe.
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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2016, 10:16:43 pm »
It already looks bad.
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2016, 01:26:28 pm »
"looks" heh

I'm cautiously optimistic despite myself. The era it's set in seems right for storytelling, and a different, more "contemporary" style of TV could serve ST well. Bryan Fuller is an established ST & non-ST producer and bringing in people like Meyer and Rod Roddenberry could add the right flavor too.  The biggest fears I have come from the awfulness of the Abrahams films (including "ST Beyond").  That's a lot to overcome but it looks like this series is at a distance from those films.

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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2016, 05:35:35 pm »
There's not enough there to call it a teaser. ::)
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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2016, 06:27:16 pm »
I also didnt find it anything special... looks like a video card apresentation ^^
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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2016, 07:56:50 pm »
guys, this thing is the definition of a teaser trailer - a trailer made from almost nothing from final product, or from whatever was lying around. A lot of the other ST films had them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkJQK12BnK0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7lk5xnu6aY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwivz3gECus

New series might be good, bad or ugly, but you can't tell from this teaser

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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2016, 11:45:08 pm »
BTW, per Axanar Productions, due to director Lin's interventions, Paramount is dropping lawsuit against Axanar Productions!

https://twitter.com/StarTrekAxanar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2016, 10:14:43 am »
There must have been some behind closed door agreement that was reached. Hopefully details leak out sooner than later. :o
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2016, 01:03:14 pm »
I'm awaiting an official announcement from Paramount/CBS r.e. dropping the lawsuit, but I do hope that Abrams and Lin's disclosure at the beyond event is in fact happening.  Directors and Studios aren't on the same page sometimes.  And many fan film productions are watching this closely.  Paramount/CBS REALLY should publish official 'fan film' guidelines on these if they want to allow these to continue, the verbal vagaraties up to this point ('just don't make any money' comes immediately to mind) aren't all that helpful.  Some of the other sci fi franchises which have large fan ecosystems do a better job with this than Paramount/CBS have up to this point.

In somewhat related news, I am glad that Supergirl lives on for Season 2 on the CW.  I wish that they had done the same for Enterprise waaaay back then (retool the production to lower costs), so it's nice to know that CBS isn't as afraid of moving productions from the USA to Canada to control costs as they were back in the Enterprise days (there was a proposal to move the Enterprise production team to Canada when they cancelled the series, so that it wouldn't cost as much per episode to produce, but they chose to kill the series instead, just as it was starting to get more interesting...).

Anyways, I did warn you guys it was only 50 seconds of 'teasing'.  The New Crews thing is probably the biggest disclosure that the very vague mini trailer reveals, but that doesn't tell us much by itself.  I haven't been following the 'deep' news on the new series all that much.  I do want to see the entire season on broadcast TV, not just the pilot...  Some of us pay for our internet by the gig.  Again, maybe they should take a page from the Supergirl experiment and move the rest of the Star Trek season to the CW, if they don't think that Star Trek can hang in the ratings on their flagship network. 

To be fair, Supergirl was in the top 10 of the CBS ratings, on par or better than several other of their shows which they have renewed for next season - it was a cost/benefit analysis (production cost per episode, plus more importantly the licensing fee from DC which they managed to negotiate downwards for season 2 apparently) that brought that show's future into question.  By comparison sitcom shows/sets are usually much cheaper to produce, actor salaries aside, so they can 'better afford' to live on with lower ratings, TV advertising budgets aside.
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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2016, 03:35:18 am »
Another teaser, this time showing off the starship:  NCC 1031 Discovery...

https://youtu.be/bqm9HSYbf0o

And it would appear that the new TV show will be called Star Trek: Discovery.


Not really digging this ship - reminds me of a Starfire Silhouette, not a ST one.  What does everyone else think so far?

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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2016, 06:12:44 am »
Yuck.  Already said what I felt about STD at the other place.

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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2016, 08:35:44 am »
It's the Ralph McQuarrie Enterprise barf concept from the 70's with heavy star wars influence.  :smackhead:

http://losttrek.weebly.com/ralph-mcquarries-concept-art.html
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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2016, 11:12:47 am »
I've always liked the McQuarrie Enterprise so I find this Discovery a nice update on it, and Fuller has all but admitted that they were borrowing from McQuarrie's ship.

The fact that it's the Prime Timeline is the best news I've heard. Despite the nitpicking over the registry, by all other rumors the series will be set post TOS movies/preTNG. Given the various behnd the scenes talent involved, I am now getting optimistc about ST:D. My biggest issue is still the delivery system they're using instead of broadcast.

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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2016, 06:35:01 pm »
The McQuarrie Enterise is an unholy fusion of Star Trek and Star Wars that was so awful, that it caused Gene Roddenberry to bring back Matt Jeffries to save the day.

As far as setting goes, A small foam model of the McQuarrie Enterprise was seen in the background during the space dock sequence in ST III, so its possible that this could be TMP era.

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2016, 10:45:44 pm »
Interesting twist might be if it were an anthology series about the ship. Each season telling a single novel-like story about a point in the ship's lifespan.

Would allow them to tell a story from every era.


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Contrary to rumors that the new series would be an anthology show with each season focusing on a different time in Trek lore, Fuller said Ive read that this is an anthology show, which is not accurate. Fuller also shot down the rumor that the series would take place between Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2016, 11:15:27 pm »
The McQuarrie Enterise is an unholy fusion of Star Trek and Star Wars that was so awful, that it caused Gene Roddenberry to bring back Matt Jeffries to save the day.

As far as setting goes, A small foam model of the McQuarrie Enterprise was seen in the background during the space dock sequence in ST III, so its possible that this could be TMP era.

It kinda looks to me like a Klingon D7 with the boom replaced with a fed saucer.

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2016, 11:40:02 pm »
The McQuarrie Enterise is an unholy fusion of Star Trek and Star Wars that was so awful, that it caused Gene Roddenberry to bring back Matt Jeffries to save the day.

As far as setting goes, A small foam model of the McQuarrie Enterprise was seen in the background during the space dock sequence in ST III, so its possible that this could be TMP era.

It kinda looks to me like a Klingon D7 with the boom replaced with a fed saucer.

Naaaah, if it was that, it'd look cooler...
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2016, 12:29:39 am »
The McQuarrie Enterise is an unholy fusion of Star Trek and Star Wars that was so awful, that it caused Gene Roddenberry to bring back Matt Jeffries to save the day.

As far as setting goes, A small foam model of the McQuarrie Enterprise was seen in the background during the space dock sequence in ST III, so its possible that this could be TMP era.

It kinda looks to me like a Klingon D7 with the boom replaced with a fed saucer.

Its a Star Destroyer with a few Federation appendages tacked on.

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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2016, 11:24:49 am »
From what I've seen now, both the ship and a picture I stumbled upon on twitter (which is ironic since I don't use twitter).  I now believe that this series is the reason Axanar drew so much fire.  This series seems to be set prior to the Cage, perhaps 30 to 40 years before, which would almost put it right in the Axanar time frame.  Obviously the Studio couldn't allow Axanar to be made if they were going to put something out that took place in the same time period.

The Ship looks like it belongs pre-Cage, and the twitter picture was a picture of the unfinished Command Chair.  Which to me looked like a cross between the NX Command Chair, and the Constitution Command Chair.  I've heard the theories about this ship being an older ship that was mothballed and re-activated in the 24th Century, and I don't buy it.  There's no crisis before the Dominion War that would have warranted dragging a 100 year old clunker out of Mothballs and attempting to modernize it.  The Federation even in the late 23rd century is a place where there is very little scarcity of resources to justify that line of thinking.
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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2016, 03:55:54 pm »
Saw another pic of that ship again.  Fugly, but then that's what some people said about the A-10.  I happen to think that the Warthog looks quite graceful really, in a lethal sort of way, but then I like B-25's too...

Anyways, posting to share the article I just saw on Ars.  Some interesting tidbits (as well as a belly shot of that ship...).

http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2016/08/new-trek-series-committed-to-casting-diversity-main-character-wont-be-captain/

As someone had shared in one of the posts avove this one, the article mentions the series being set in the Prime timeline, not the Kelvin one (hopefully thay don't mess that one up too).  Not sure why a Klingon captain is included in the rundown of the main characters...


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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2016, 11:14:01 am »
Saw another pic of that ship again.  Fugly, but then that's what some people said about the A-10.  I happen to think that the Warthog looks quite graceful really, in a lethal sort of way, but then I like B-25's too...

Anyways, posting to share the article I just saw on Ars.  Some interesting tidbits (as well as a belly shot of that ship...).

http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2016/08/new-trek-series-committed-to-casting-diversity-main-character-wont-be-captain/

As someone had shared in one of the posts avove this one, the article mentions the series being set in the Prime timeline, not the Kelvin one (hopefully thay don't mess that one up too).  Not sure why a Klingon captain is included in the rundown of the main characters...


http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/08/fuller-talks-about-the-uss-discovery-design-process/

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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2016, 11:18:44 am »
From what I've seen now, both the ship and a picture I stumbled upon on twitter (which is ironic since I don't use twitter).  I now believe that this series is the reason Axanar drew so much fire.  This series seems to be set prior to the Cage, perhaps 30 to 40 years before, which would almost put it right in the Axanar time frame.  Obviously the Studio couldn't allow Axanar to be made if they were going to put something out that took place in the same time period.

The Ship looks like it belongs pre-Cage, and the twitter picture was a picture of the unfinished Command Chair.  Which to me looked like a cross between the NX Command Chair, and the Constitution Command Chair.  I've heard the theories about this ship being an older ship that was mothballed and re-activated in the 24th Century, and I don't buy it.  There's no crisis before the Dominion War that would have warranted dragging a 100 year old clunker out of Mothballs and attempting to modernize it.  The Federation even in the late 23rd century is a place where there is very little scarcity of resources to justify that line of thinking.

Re: Axanar

Has nothing at all to do with that.
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2016, 12:58:44 pm »
From what I've seen now, both the ship and a picture I stumbled upon on twitter (which is ironic since I don't use twitter).  I now believe that this series is the reason Axanar drew so much fire.  This series seems to be set prior to the Cage, perhaps 30 to 40 years before, which would almost put it right in the Axanar time frame.  Obviously the Studio couldn't allow Axanar to be made if they were going to put something out that took place in the same time period.

The Ship looks like it belongs pre-Cage, and the twitter picture was a picture of the unfinished Command Chair.  Which to me looked like a cross between the NX Command Chair, and the Constitution Command Chair.  I've heard the theories about this ship being an older ship that was mothballed and re-activated in the 24th Century, and I don't buy it.  There's no crisis before the Dominion War that would have warranted dragging a 100 year old clunker out of Mothballs and attempting to modernize it.  The Federation even in the late 23rd century is a place where there is very little scarcity of resources to justify that line of thinking.

Re: Axanar

Has nothing at all to do with that.

With all due respect, it has EVERYTHING to do with that.  CBS/Paramount is setting their new series in the same time frame that the Battle of Axanar/the Four Years War occurs, and in a number of people's opinion, they didn't want to have to deal with the comparison.  I wouldn't doubt at all if we see a Garth of Izar storyline in the new series, and I find it a bit more than suspicious that a Klingon Captain has been listed as a principal character in the new series (Kharn the Undying comes to mind)...

And the Star Trek franchise has a history of 'borrowing' ideas.  JMS pitched the idea of basing a series around a space station to Paramount  in the late 80s/early 90s, and at that time they didn't seem interested, but subsequently released DS9 concurrently with B5's the Gathering (the premiere episodes aired within a little over a month of each other).

BTW, I found the B5 characters more compelling.  Soooo many classic Kosh/Mollari/G'Kar/Sinclair/Sheridan/Ivanova/Garibaldi/Delenn/Lyta/Lennier/Vir/Franklin quotes come to mind.   At least the DS9 writers came up with some interesting characters, but yeah the baseline of that series looks very familiar (station at the edge of Federation Space vs. station at the edge of Earth Alliance Space, with multiple alien races coming and going in each series)...

But then, as they say, Hollywood has so few original ideas these days, and rely on the seven basic plots so extensively.

I liked DS9, but it doesn't compel me to re-watch it.  It doesn't help that CBS/Paramount command such premiums for the DVDs of the various series either.  Some of these series are decades old, marketing guys... price them accordingly and just maybe more people will buy/discover them!

Sure, CBS/Paramount have every right to control their copyright, but I find it interesting that they choose to do so now, when they have so much riding on the new series.  NOTE that all episodic fan made ST series have been effectively shut down, Axanar was simply the biggest target...  Way to treat your fans for propping up your IP during the lean times for the last 50 years CBS/Paramount!  Not to mention trying to keep the rest of us interested in your IP while you spoon feed the masses the Kelvin timeline...

While we don't know much yet, it's no accident that CBS/Paramount spokespeople are making a big deal about mentioning doing the new series in the 'Prime' timeline instead of the 'Kelvin' one.  Obviously someone has recognized that a number of Star Trek fans simply do not like the Kelvin timeline...

AGAIN, this whole power play by CBS/Parmount can be resolved very simply by licensing the fan efforts (as opposed to simply shutting them all down), and CBS/Paramount can make a few dollars in the process by allowing such licensees to profit share in said ventures (with CBS/Paramount getting a cut).  I have enjoyed Star Trek Continues, Aurora Trek, Star Trek: Of Gods and Men, and a number of other fan efforts, and would love to continue to do so.  It hasn't lessened my love for the original series, or the subsequent efforts for that matter (I'd love to see another season of Enterprise for example, but at this point the actors involved ares probably too old to pick up with that series where it left off). 

15 minute one-off vignettes don't interest me as much, as I enjoy watching actors portray their roles over an arc of episodes vs one offs.  But going forward that's all we will ever get (unless CBS/Paramount get the sticks out of their asses).  Too bad too - I was enjoying following the Aurora Trek episodes, and was looking forward to the another installment there, but that's dead now!  As are the other episodic efforts - at least ST Continues gets to  re-purpose their sets for a fan experience - small consolation prize for helping keep the fans interested in the original series/timeline.  Other efforts will not be so lucky.


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Re: New Star Trek TV Series Teaser Trailer Released
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2016, 01:14:27 pm »
From what I've seen now, both the ship and a picture I stumbled upon on twitter (which is ironic since I don't use twitter).  I now believe that this series is the reason Axanar drew so much fire.  This series seems to be set prior to the Cage, perhaps 30 to 40 years before, which would almost put it right in the Axanar time frame.  Obviously the Studio couldn't allow Axanar to be made if they were going to put something out that took place in the same time period.

The Ship looks like it belongs pre-Cage, and the twitter picture was a picture of the unfinished Command Chair.  Which to me looked like a cross between the NX Command Chair, and the Constitution Command Chair.  I've heard the theories about this ship being an older ship that was mothballed and re-activated in the 24th Century, and I don't buy it.  There's no crisis before the Dominion War that would have warranted dragging a 100 year old clunker out of Mothballs and attempting to modernize it.  The Federation even in the late 23rd century is a place where there is very little scarcity of resources to justify that line of thinking.


Re: Axanar

Has nothing at all to do with that.


With all due respect, it has EVERYTHING to do with that.  CBS/Paramount is setting their new series in the same time frame that the Battle of Axanar/the Four Years War occurs, and in a number of people's opinion, they didn't want to have to deal with the comparison.  I wouldn't doubt at all if we see a Garth of Izar storyline in the new series, and I find it a bit more than suspicious that a Klingon Captain has been listed as a principal character in the new series (Kharn the Undying comes to mind)...

And the Star Trek franchise has a history of 'borrowing' ideas.  JMS pitched the idea of basing a series around a space station to Paramount  in the late 80s/early 90s, and at that time they didn't seem interested, but subsequently released DS9 concurrently with B5's the Gathering (the premiere episodes aired within a little over a month of each other).

BTW, I found the B5 characters more compelling.  Soooo many classic Kosh/Mollari/G'Kar/Sinclair/Sheridan/Ivanova/Garibaldi/Delenn/Lyta/Lennier/Vir/Franklin quotes come to mind.   At least the DS9 writers came up with some interesting characters, but yeah the baseline of that series looks very familiar (station at the edge of Federation Space vs. station at the edge of Earth Alliance Space, with multiple alien races coming and going in each series)...

But then, as they say, Hollywood has so few original ideas these days, and rely on the seven basic plots so extensively.

I liked DS9, but it doesn't compel me to re-watch it.  It doesn't help that CBS/Paramount command such premiums for the DVDs of the various series either.  Some of these series are decades old, marketing guys... price them accordingly and just maybe more people will buy/discover them!

Sure, CBS/Paramount have every right to control their copyright, but I find it interesting that they choose to do so now, when they have so much riding on the new series.  NOTE that all episodic fan made ST series have been effectively shut down, Axanar was simply the biggest target...  Way to treat your fans for propping up your IP during the lean times for the last 50 years CBS/Paramount!  Not to mention trying to keep the rest of us interested in your IP while you spoon feed the masses the Kelvin timeline...

While we don't know much yet, it's no accident that CBS/Paramount spokespeople are making a big deal about mentioning doing the new series in the 'Prime' timeline instead of the 'Kelvin' one.  Obviously someone has recognized that a number of Star Trek fans simply do not like the Kelvin timeline...

AGAIN, this whole power play by CBS/Parmount can be resolved very simply by licensing the fan efforts (as opposed to simply shutting them all down), and CBS/Paramount can make a few dollars in the process by allowing such licensees to profit share in said ventures (with CBS/Paramount getting a cut).  I have enjoyed Star Trek Continues, Aurora Trek, Star Trek: Of Gods and Men, and a number of other fan efforts, and would love to continue to do so.  It hasn't lessened my love for the original series, or the subsequent efforts for that matter (I'd love to see another season of Enterprise for example, but at this point the actors involved ares probably too old to pick up with that series where it left off). 

15 minute one-off vignettes don't interest me as much, as I enjoy watching actors portray their roles over an arc of episodes vs one offs.  But going forward that's all we will ever get (unless CBS/Paramount get the sticks out of their asses).  Too bad too - I was enjoying following the Aurora Trek episodes, and was looking forward to the another installment there, but that's dead now!  As are the other episodic efforts - at least ST Continues gets to  re-purpose their sets for a fan experience - small consolation prize for helping keep the fans interested in the original series/timeline.  Other efforts will not be so lucky.


You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/CBSvsAxanar/

Public group for discussing the lawsuit.  Tell them I sent you.

I'll also direct you to Axamonitor http://axamonitor.com/doku.php?id=start  Plenty of info on why the suit was filed, as well as a timeline.

Also, the Four Years War IS NOT CANON.  It's from an FASA sourcebook that was published in the 80s for the RPG they did (and relies on info that was subsequently contradicted by the spin-offs and later movies).  Only reason it was used as a plot device in Prelude is because there is literally no canon info about it (the battle of Axanar) other than the fact it was a pivotal moment in Federation history (check the Memory Alpha article on Axanar if you do not believe me).

Continues isn't re-purposing their sets, New Voyages/Phase II is (Continues, at last report, is still checking with CBS regarding compliance).
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