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Re: SETI Thread
« Reply #390 on: September 18, 2006, 03:41:07 pm »

I apparently fail at getting FedoraCore5 BONIC working nicely.  I was hoping for more than ~50 RAC from the thing.

And yes, I am a Linux n00b
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« Reply #391 on: September 18, 2006, 05:33:24 pm »

I apparently fail at getting FedoraCore5 BONIC working nicely.  I was hoping for more than ~50 RAC from the thing.

And yes, I am a Linux n00b

I just took a look at your stats and will make a couple of suggestions.
1st stretch your cache size out to 3 or more days. by keeping it small, the scheduler sends you small wu's that get small  credit. The RAC goes up with the big WU's.
 2nd You need to hook up with Nemesis andget him to set you up with the enhanced crunchers that you need for AMD-Linux. I use the windows/Intel crunchers and my RAC is double what it would be with the stock issued ones. As long as your not interested in the graphics, this is the way to go. By removing the graphics code from the cruncher, it cuts the time in half and therefore you get twice the credit and RAC.
 3rd If you can do it, double  your ram to 512. That will also get you bigger WU's. As a matter of fact, if you post what RAM you need, somebody might have some extra lying around and send it to you. Smiley
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Re: SETI Thread
« Reply #392 on: September 18, 2006, 08:46:28 pm »

I apparently fail at getting FedoraCore5 BONIC working nicely.  I was hoping for more than ~50 RAC from the thing.

And yes, I am a Linux n00b

 2nd You need to hook up with Nemesis andget him to set you up with the enhanced crunchers that you need for AMD-Linux. I use the windows/Intel crunchers and my RAC is double what it would be with the stock issued ones. As long as your not interested in the graphics, this is the way to go. By removing the graphics code from the cruncher, it cuts the time in half and therefore you get twice the credit and RAC.

 3rd If you can do it, double  your ram to 512. That will also get you bigger WU's. As a matter of fact, if you post what RAM you need, somebody might have some extra lying around and send it to you. Smiley

I'm far from an expert with Linux myself and I don't use Fedora (OpenSuSE for me). 

Early on with old SETI I set up my first serious Linux system and the SETI crawled.  Then I did a reinstall and left out all the stuff that I wasn't actually planning to use and the performance of that Linux running Duron surged strongly enough that it competed well with a Windows running Athlon that was faster.  If your not careful (like I wasn't) you'll find that your Linux install is running all sorts of services and utilities that you have no interest in.

There is a command line utility called top (all lower case) that lists what is running and how much memory and the % of the processor that is in use by each item.  If you are not doing anything the Seti Boinc should be running at 99% +.

This is the link to the optimized SETI BOINC client that I'm using.

Hope that helps.
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« Reply #393 on: September 18, 2006, 09:24:39 pm »

I apparently fail at getting FedoraCore5 BONIC working nicely.  I was hoping for more than ~50 RAC from the thing.

And yes, I am a Linux n00b

Actually your making an error of interpretation.  Here is a link to your stats.

Your RAC is based on a longer time period than you have yet had with that machine.  Watch it rise day by day until it stabilizes.

If you scroll down the linked page you'll see a table with your recent output.  Your actual days since you received credit recently are listed below. 
Credit/day   188   187   214   107   0   61   

My Linux based dual Athlon XP 2100+ is running around a RAC of ~300. 
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« Reply #394 on: September 19, 2006, 09:19:06 am »

I'll have to give that enhanced client a try when I get home.
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« Reply #395 on: September 20, 2006, 08:28:46 pm »

I'm finally being able to use my laptop as intended so its going offline permanently as soon as the cache is empty.  Which means my RAC should drop to 800-900 until my next upgrade (dual cores are getting very tempting).

I do plan a couple of experiments to see if I can't squeeze a few more points out of the Linux machines but don't expect anything spectacular so just maybe I'll stay a little over 900.
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« Reply #396 on: September 23, 2006, 06:28:18 pm »

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« Reply #397 on: September 23, 2006, 06:42:02 pm »

And the other way  Smiley


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« Reply #398 on: September 23, 2006, 06:42:35 pm »

The laptop ran its cache down Thursday.  On Friday I took it to work with me.  On the way I attempted to boot it up to do some note taking.  Windows wouldn't load no matter what I did.  Eventually I found the utility in the BIOS to restore to the factory installed Windows.  Which of course meant I lost all the configuring I had done.

I did learn two things however:

The first is just an observation and I could be wrong.  It appears that if you give an account admin access in Windows it resets all the Admin functions to factory default.  So after I created a specific user to be Admin Auto Update and the XP Firewall were turned back on, which solves a mystery of how that happened last time. 

The 2nd is the advantage of free software.  I naturally didn't have software install disks with me not expecting to need them.  Most of the software on the system is free software and I kept the original install files so was able to reinstall my Open Office and Firefox among other programs on the fly. 

As a side note the restore utility claimed to be loading Windows 98 and used a version of the Symantic Ghost utility.  I'm assuming its just the integrated DOS (which Microsoft denied existed) from 98 not the whole OS installed in the BIOS.  Too bad it isn't able to be booted and used directly.  For some things it would be enough.
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« Reply #399 on: September 25, 2006, 10:33:39 am »

I've joined the Taldren team and have used Chicken's SSE2 enhancements for the two AMD's I have and the P4. They've made a huge improvement - roughly 25% on the processing time of a WU!

I notice they've made it now that if folk leave the team it retains the credits which is how it should be. Nice.  Smiley
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« Reply #400 on: September 25, 2006, 05:31:48 pm »

Max, welcome to the team. Smiley  In other news, AJTK left the team and went ARMY.  Sad
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« Reply #401 on: September 30, 2006, 07:47:55 pm »

I've just added a laptop to the stable of three. I wonder how it will affect RAC - despite getting a flurry of those rubbish WU's that generate -9 overflow errors. What a pain they are.
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« Reply #402 on: September 30, 2006, 08:26:05 pm »

Had to ditch FC5.  Couldnt get samba shares working the way I wanted to; so 2003'd it, but still running BONIC

Also added my personal DC laptop to the mix; and willl be adding an old W2k 800mhz duron; and possibly another mid-power laptop.
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« Reply #403 on: October 01, 2006, 06:35:37 am »

Hmmmm If I do run a D2 server at some point that'll mean I'll have to take my best cruncher offline for it.

Does anyone know or has anyone tried running a d2 server with the boinc app? Will it suspend activity when a player logs on for example? Or does it just scan for usage at keyboard/mouse level?
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« Reply #404 on: October 02, 2006, 12:01:16 pm »

Had to ditch FC5.  Couldnt get samba shares working the way I wanted to; so 2003'd it, but still running BONIC

Also added my personal DC laptop to the mix; and willl be adding an old W2k 800mhz duron; and possibly another mid-power laptop.

Sounds like a good boost. What username do you go by on S@H? So I can track ya!  Wink
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« Reply #405 on: October 02, 2006, 12:51:07 pm »



Sounds like a good boost. What username do you go by on S@H? So I can track ya!  Wink

Same one I used for S@H1.  Phillip *****.

Probably wont be able to get that 2nd laptop into BOINC.  GF's laptop used heavily for graphic programs.  That and she doesnt want me putting junk on her laptop... until something breaks.

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« Reply #406 on: October 02, 2006, 12:56:02 pm »

Yeah I know that feeling. I can see me losing 2 crunchers shortly...the laptop is sporadically running S@H anyway and will probably be kidnapped. Grrr.

Heh, I wonder if I can sell the idea to my mother and remotely install...hmmm
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« Reply #407 on: October 09, 2006, 07:53:52 am »

I must say; my DualCore laptop does quite well despite my using it frequently.
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« Reply #408 on: October 15, 2006, 11:00:42 am »

The servers are giving out 403 errors(can't upload finished WU's). I would expect that issue to be resolved sometime tomorrow. Smiley
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« Reply #409 on: October 17, 2006, 06:56:16 pm »

I got home today and one of my UPS was sounding.  That computer is functioning "erratically".  I won't have the time to do anything about it until the weekend.  So expect my output to decline at least for a few days.
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« Reply #410 on: October 23, 2006, 09:39:59 pm »

Just broke 500 on my RAC for the first time, new record for me WOOT Smiley
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« Reply #411 on: October 24, 2006, 06:33:15 pm »

I got home today and one of my UPS was sounding.  That computer is functioning "erratically".  I won't have the time to do anything about it until the weekend.  So expect my output to decline at least for a few days.

Unfortunately it was not the UPS.  It still might be the powersupply.  I may have a PSU that I can substitute this weekend.  If not then it may require a full rebuild and will be offline for a while.
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« Reply #412 on: October 26, 2006, 09:08:41 pm »

I underclocked (about 25%) the downed machine and it is working stably now.  I'll see if there is some way to stabilize it at full speed on the weekend.
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« Reply #413 on: October 27, 2006, 05:59:53 pm »

Couple days away from bringing my new PC online.

2.4ghz core2duo, 2gb ram.
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« Reply #414 on: October 27, 2006, 08:36:57 pm »

I've been thinking of rebuilding one of my machines along those lines myself.  I may do so as a Christmas present to myself.  Let us know how it works out.

What motherboard, video etc are you going to use?
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« Reply #415 on: October 27, 2006, 09:52:07 pm »

I've been thinking of rebuilding one of my machines along those lines myself.  I may do so as a Christmas present to myself.  Let us know how it works out.

What motherboard, video etc are you going to use?

D946GZIS 946GZ motherboard, onboard video (not going to use it as a gaming machine) - but PCI-Express16 capable.  Will probably pick up a video card if Legacy runs poorly on my laptop (Core2duo 1.83, 1gb ram)

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« Reply #416 on: October 31, 2006, 05:21:00 pm »

Unless I am misunderstanding what I am seeing, Ken is giving up control of the team. Does somebody want to step forward and run this team?
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« Reply #417 on: October 31, 2006, 06:14:58 pm »

Unless I am misunderstanding what I am seeing, Ken is giving up control of the team. Does somebody want to step forward and run this team?

That is the way it looks.  How much "running" does it actually take?  Think we can con persuade Raven to do it?
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« Reply #418 on: October 31, 2006, 09:37:52 pm »

Unless I am misunderstanding what I am seeing, Ken is giving up control of the team. Does somebody want to step forward and run this team?

That is the way it looks.  How much "running" does it actually take?  Think we can con persuade Raven to do it?

I also nominate Raven to run the team.

Additionally, my new PC is up and running; and crunching SetiBoinc.
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« Reply #419 on: November 02, 2006, 07:36:07 pm »

Unless I am misunderstanding what I am seeing, Ken is giving up control of the team. Does somebody want to step forward and run this team?

That is the way it looks.  How much "running" does it actually take?  Think we can con persuade Raven to do it?

I also nominate Raven to run the team.

Additionally, my new PC is up and running; and crunching SetiBoinc.

Maybe somebody should invite him to come over, we might be waiting a while otherwise. He hasn't been around here in quite a while..
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