Topic: Vote for the Titan (Read 5083 times)

Fury_of_a_Seraph · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2004, 08:30:50 pm »

I agree...I think the largest ship - Colony and Generational ships nonewithstanding - that should be feilded by the Federation is the Galaxy-X

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2004, 08:16:50 am »

Actually Magnum sir,upgrades to existing ships and fighters as well are usually the first order of business,before a new design is commisioned. So upgrades to the Excelsior,any remaining Ambassador classes,and any older ships would come first.Especially with losses like the Federation suffered. And I definately agree on a size limitation as well.Smaller and more powerful is the way to go.

jimkirk · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2004, 08:30:00 am »

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I agree...I think the largest ship - Colony and Generational ships nonewithstanding - that should be feilded by the Federation is the Galaxy-X

That's Entente class according to www.ditl.org This class was based on Galaxy class Battleship... with three nacelles:)

sandman69247 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2004, 11:13:08 am »

Well, I chose the WZ/Azel model...can't beat those two.

As for whether Riker should have been given his own command, I say no...because to my mind, he himself didn't feel he was right for command. Every single time he was offered a command he turned it down...that tells me he wouldn't be fit for command. True, he proved himself a capable diplomat, a great tactician and had a good rappaort with the crew, all essential in a Starfleet Captain, but....he was uncomfortable with the move. Rather than giving him a ship, I would have put him in a staff job for the rest of his career.

As to why the ships keep getting bigger...human nature. We want the other guy to look at the ship and say, "HOLY CRAP!!!"

And, the number of ship styles can be explained as, they were all designed for specific types of missions. But, it is true that there are way too many classes out there. I mean, look at SW...they've been flying some of those ships for hundreds of years and still kickin azz

In some cases it would be too costly to upgrade the existing ships, but the vast majority could be brought up to speed quicker and cheaper than designing a whole new ship.

B&B just wanted to try and get rid of more of Genes influence...the E-D was the last Enterprise to be approved by Gene, and B&B want to turn ST into their baby. What they're really doing though is killing it.

Anyway, the WZ/Azel Titan is my vote, and no to Riker getting a command of his own. I mean, who want a Captain with performance anxiety?

blitzy · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2004, 01:03:54 pm »

BTW, the new star trek RPg says the Titan was a Prometheus class.

olbuzzard · « **Reply #25 on:** March 28, 2004, 10:52:24 pm »

hmmmm different ships ... different rolls IMHO. The "E" in the TNG TV series was more an outward expression of not just a flag ship ( for battle ) but for exploration. Look how many complete families were on board the "D". I you recall one of the first things that the captain insisted on was to keep the "children off the bridge".

By the time the "E" came out that protocall had changed. This ship seems to be more business than the family sized "D" modle. Again this is little more the writers for Paramont setting the stage or "keeping up with change". Lets face it change is a big part of theater.

As for too many ships available... Not really. Take a look at the US Navy ... a lot of different ships for many differnet tasks.

Also as far as the maneuverability of a big ship... or her speed .. you should see how maneuverable some of todays big ships are. And as for Speed.... the RL Enterprise can out run most of her escorts if she wanted to. ( Believe it or not !)

There are a lot of things we mihgt use to speculate on ... and there are a lot of good points to consider.

Personally I really dont like the Sovy design as well as the Galaxy in SOME aspects. ( just personal tastes)

As for the Titan.... I kind a agree that she is a new ship all togeather. Her name seems to indicate a large ship with some powerful weapons at her disposal. As for the over all design ... I really dont think it would resemble too much of any thing we have seen so far ( sorry guys .... ) Azels idea come as close as any ... but I think it would be a bit more sleek. Hopefully it will get away form the the "Promethus" look .. or the Voyager either one...

I do like the idea of comming up with a viable "Titan" though !!

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #26 on:** March 29, 2004, 02:17:58 am »

If you all want to get real technical,Picard should never have been allowed to go back to active duty so soon,let alone back to command.He suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder so..............none of the TNG movie should ever have happened

As for what Old Buzzard said about the real E you should see her at flank speed. I have and man can she haul azz.

-MP

Kaenyne · « **Reply #30 on:** March 29, 2004, 03:48:05 pm »

I just want SOMEBODY to build Titan number four!

She's sooooo cool...

ChrisJohnson · « **Reply #31 on:** March 29, 2004, 07:02:31 pm »

She looks like a kitbash of the Excalibur-class, the Excelsior-B-class, and the Prometheus-Class (Nacelles kinda resemble those of the Prometheus, a bit.)

ChrisJohnson · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2004, 06:55:29 am »

Well, there is some uniqueness, I'll give the Starfleet Engineer who designed that starship that much credit.

Fury_of_a_Seraph · « **Reply #35 on:** March 30, 2004, 07:06:16 am »

In all honesty, i was go so far as to say that the Titan is a Heavy Cruiser - Prometheus works well enough (not the imitation on page one Prometheus, i mean an ACTUAL Prometheus).

Then again, it would make sense if it were a Norway~class ship as well - Reason being the Norway (in my mind at least) has always been a diplomatic cruiser - what better ship to go to the romulan space for rebuilding.

Or i will entertain the idea that it is a Sovereign-class...i mean would Riker really give up the Ent-E for a ship that wasnt just like it?

ChrisJohnson · « **Reply #36 on:** March 30, 2004, 07:21:44 am »

Riker has more reasons for accepting actual captaincy and leaving the Ent-E for the Titan more than just because it's a new ship or one of the cooler-looking ships. He may have thought it was finally time to move on. Start his own adventures, or something. I mean, if it were you in a situation... You had a heck of a time onboard a starship, liked it's crew as if it were your family, and been there for sooo long, despite a lot of change over the years... What would be your reasoning for accepting captaincy of another ship?

I'd rather this ship wasn't a ship that was of pure battle though, it should be more than just a ship of battle like the Prometheus-class or any of her chip-off the block variants.

Or mabye ask yourself this: Why would the Federation refit an Excelsior to have two bulky hull thingies on the secondary hull, plus two big impulse drive systems on the primary hull that would char off the warp engines and some of her struts as well? Well it's kinda off-subject but still, if you know where I'm getting at...

Fury_of_a_Seraph · « **Reply #37 on:** March 30, 2004, 07:24:30 am »

But i dont like the idea of adding yet another ship class to the mix. Reason being the just made a new line of ships, (The intrepid, Prometheus, Nova, Sovereign, Etc.) why start yet another line...

How about a Varient of the Sovereign, one with a Nebula sensor pod on it

ChrisJohnson · « **Reply #38 on:** March 30, 2004, 07:30:58 am »

I think we're falling on common ground and not knowing it because of some misinterpretation.

I'm saying there's more reason for Riker, or anyone in his situation in that matter, to accept command of another Starship. Earlier I chose the Excelsior-B because, although technically you can call it a new class, it's designed to replace an old, fading design of ships that actually served damn well good for a century (pardon my french).

But I don't want the Titan to be a ship of battle... Although an Excelsior-B can not live up to her name, it seemed kinda logical. And if the ship has to be big, then mabye a Galaxy-class, or a variant of her, would suffice.

Also, I don't see the point of just kitbashing to the point where you stick sensor pods or rollbars on top of ships, it can't simply just work that way. It also makes a class of Starship like the Sovereign-class less-streamlined.

Fury_of_a_Seraph · « **Reply #39 on:** March 30, 2004, 07:32:51 am »

I agree...the Excelsior-B would make a good Titan...
Or better yet, the Excelsior-B that LC Amaral put out (can be found at Darkmatrix's Site)

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